Simon still good for EBAY PayPal? Using Simon - General problems / issues with Simon

[georgesmith]

I setup worldwide delivery for my auctions.
You either have to select paypal or merchant account when setting up your auctions.

[JackNoMore]

Right but there's a difference. If you did want to list on an international site (there are reasons), the limit does apply. I've found that when you go straight to the source, it can make a great deal of difference. It also depends on what you sell of course, whether or not it is more desired or less in your country vs others.

[georgesmith]

If you select worldwide shipping you'll get listed in "from international sellers" on the other eBay sites. I have had quite a few inquiries on my auctions from users from the netherlands, and a few other countries in Europe. It seems to work well.

[JackNoMore]

True, but your auction will appear at the *bottom* of the other listings, in a small space which rotates out. If you're lucky, you'll appear in that area, otherwise, the interested party will have to select to view all the other listings in order to even SEE your auction. When you sell items more desired *outside* your country than *inside* that's a big handicap. It's much easier to just list in the native currency on the native site, and be listed in the top area where you'll be sure to be seen.

[georgesmith]

Well I guess I can ask only for so much for my single auction fee. I think you can get plenty of exposure if you select worldwide shipping, always depends though on the product you are selling. Might be more difficult if theres a million and one of what you are selling.

[kevinxu]

1.i'm in asia,could i use simon cards?i just want the virtual cards not the physical.

2.could i use ⊗⊗⊗⊗ name and address on simon cards?

3.could i have many simon cards without different name and addresse?i want to register more than 1 ebay account.

thank you

[simogold]

try to buy a vcc to register in ebay and another one to get verified with PP.
there are plenty of sellers that sell those cards in talkgold forum only from $7 to $14 each. and they will give the 4 digits number to get verified and you can put any addresses you want.

[kevinxu]

Originally Posted by simogold

try to buy a vcc to register in ebay and another one to get verified with PP.
there are plenty of sellers that sell those cards in talkgold forum only from $7 to $14 each. and they will give the 4 digits number to get verified and you can put any addresses you want.

i bought 6 vccs at 7usd in talkgold to registered 6 ebay accouts and all of them were suspended very soon even before i started to sell.that's why i asked about the simon cards

[DogFacedBoy]

I just went to the site (Simon) and saw that they offer both.
I thought that I would ask here first before reading on, plus I resepect the opinions of the members here based upon their experience.
I am assuming that you could get up and running quicker with the Gift Account, but would that be accepted by ebay? I will only use this card for establishing and paying for fees associated with a new ebay account, so I don't need to be able to take the card with me for actual physical purchases...might at some point use it to make other online purchases.

Also, my ebay fees would only be $50-100/mo for now. I don't have a lot of money to put into the new CC for now so how much should I start with?

What are the monthly fees that they charge to keep the account active and how much to add say $100 each moth to be able to keep ebay happy by paying them. Is the load fee based on the amount or just a flat fee any time you add funds to the card?

Or by adding a new email (the one that I registered at ebay) to PP could I just keep the card on file and add the new (and for now accepted by ebay) email to my PP account and pay the monthly fees through PP? Could I also use this newly created PP/EB email to accept payments at ebay...say through the automated checkout or would I be better off using something like Andale or Auctiva (although I am not at all familiar with how they work) or will this just not work at all?

Also can this be used for receiving payment as a credit or "load" for any online checkout services?

If anyone has experiences with the other cards like these, I'm all ears, but please explain the fees for those.

Sorry I got off into sevral different directions, but I think this information is somewhat related and would be particularily useful to a lot of for others like me in getting back into the "exclusive" ebay country club


Thanks everyone

[coopster72]

Originally Posted by DogFacedBoy

I just went to the site (Simon) and saw that they offer both.
I thought that I would ask here first before reading on, plus I resepect the opinions of the members here based upon their experience.
I am assuming that you could get up and running quicker with the Gift Account, but would that be accepted by ebay? I will only use this card for establishing and paying for fees associated with a new ebay account, so I don't need to be able to take the card with me for actual physical purchases...might at some point use it to make other online purchases.

What you want is the Gift Account. You can send the gift from your real info to your ⊗⊗⊗⊗ info. ⊗⊗⊗⊗ Name Generator (This site is pretty cool, just choose an address close to you.) . It takes about 24 hours for the email to show up in the ⊗⊗⊗⊗ account. Once you get the email, follow the link to create your ⊗⊗⊗⊗ account at Simon. Use the same ⊗⊗⊗⊗ personal information that you will use for Ebay and Paypal.

Originally Posted by DogFacedBoy

Also, my ebay fees would only be $50-100/mo for now. I don't have a lot of money to put into the new CC for now so how much should I start with?

Just get a $20 card. As long as you keep a balance the card will remain active if ebay checks. I used about $17 of the card buying $1.25 items to up my feedback for buy it now.

Originally Posted by DogFacedBoy

What are the monthly fees that they charge to keep the account active and how much to add say $100 each moth to be able to keep ebay happy by paying them. Is the load fee based on the amount or just a flat fee any time you add funds to the card??

The monthly fees are not charged until after 12 months, then it's like $1.50 a month. I think it cost $5 to buy the card though. Unfortunately you cannot recharge the Simon gift account. I have not found a virtual card that can.

Originally Posted by DogFacedBoy

Or by adding a new email (the one that I registered at ebay) to PP could I just keep the card on file and add the new (and for now accepted by ebay) email to my PP account and pay the monthly fees through PP? Could I also use this newly created PP/EB email to accept payments at ebay...say through the automated checkout or would I be better off using something like Andale or Auctiva (although I am not at all familiar with how they work) or will this just not work at all?

I would just use your ⊗⊗⊗⊗ info and create a new Paypal account. No point in risking it down the road. All you need is another checking account from your bank. As of yet Paypal does not check the name on the checking account that you use to get verified Premier. If down the road they do start checking I think a lot of us will be at the courthouse getting a DBA or LLC.

Originally Posted by DogFacedBoy

Also can this be used for receiving payment as a credit or "load" for any online checkout services?

No, again I haven't found any virtual card that will. I think it's the whole Patriot Act thing.


Thanks for the questions Dogfaceboy, I think a a lot of people would appreciate this info.

[DogFacedBoy]

Wow, what a great reply!
I don't have the time to check all of this out right now, but I sure will later tonight.

[aspkin]

Gift Account is what you want.

His great reply and my crap one.

[tyandlayne]

Wow This is the same question I had, I need a Simon Card for another account, so when I purchase it I would use my real info and then use a ⊗⊗⊗⊗ name for the person I am sending the card to (which would be me) and use that same info for my ebay account am I correct on this one? PLEASE REPLY..
ALSO can I use this to open up a paypal account I need a new one? But I cannot open up a new checking account with a ⊗⊗⊗⊗ name regarding the deposit amounts they ask for can you clear this up for me.. I really appreciate everyones help...

[JackNoMore]

Why does no one mention giftcards.com anymore? Did they do something bad when I wasn't looking or does Simon just have better advertising?

[DogFacedBoy]

Originally Posted by Jack

Why does no one mention giftcards.com anymore? Did they do something bad when I wasn't looking or does Simon just have better advertising?

I'm assuming that you have used them and had good experiences with them?

[aspkin]

I guess because I mention simon.com a lot, especially in the guides. Simon giftaccounts are really great. I really wish with they had an affiliate service.

[JackNoMore]

Giftcards is reputable. They've been around almost as long as Simon I believe. Haven't used them lately (hence the question) but have had no problems in the past with them. I liked that they were available by phone and quick customer service. My experience with Simon is that they're hard to reach and gift cards services have been a little shady in the past.

[coopster72]

Originally Posted by tyandlayne

Wow This is the same question I had, I need a Simon Card for another account, so when I purchase it I would use my real info and then use a ⊗⊗⊗⊗ name for the person I am sending the card to (which would be me) and use that same info for my ebay account am I correct on this one? PLEASE REPLY..

Exactly right. Be sure to get a real phone number for the ⊗⊗⊗⊗ person first. You can get a free one from aimphoneline.com The ⊗⊗⊗⊗ person will need this number when "they" activate the card. Use this same number for Ebay and Paypal too.

Originally Posted by tyandlayne

ALSO can I use this to open up a paypal account I need a new one? But I cannot open up a new checking account with a ⊗⊗⊗⊗ name regarding the deposit amounts they ask for can you clear this up for me.. I really appreciate everyones help...

You can use the Simon card for Paypal. You cannot get verified however, without either applying for a Paypal credit card or using a valid checking account. You can still sell, only you are not verified and you cannot "require immediate payment". If that works for you then you all need is to find a way to then get your money out of Paypal. Not having a checking account kind of limits you. You will need to "pay someone" via their email address. Eventually it has to go to a real checking account or an online merchant. If anybody else knows of a way to get money out of Paypal anonymously (besides the PO BOX and DBA) I'd love to hear it.

[DogFacedBoy]

Originally Posted by coopster72

Exactly right. Be sure to get a real phone number for the ⊗⊗⊗⊗ person first. You can get a free one from aimphoneline.com The ⊗⊗⊗⊗ person will need this number when "they" activate the card. Use this same number for Ebay and Paypal too.

Okay, I set up a new anonymous account at ebay. I haven't done a transaction on it yet. So far all they have is
1) a real name (of a real person who has never ebayed)
2) a real address, but with apt# added in case I want to use it again (accept for the apt# this was the address of the registered name)
3) a real phone number that has been disconnected for a year.(this also was the phone number for the registered name) Does this phone number need to be connected or simplt entered to activate the card?

I want to start selling so I will need to get a gift card (actually a simon account) since the simon gift account will not have to be mailed, can I use the same infomation and just have the details,activaton,etc sent to the email (which I created of course) of the registered person?

I know that I could also use the giftcard to set up the PP account, however will face the already stated obstacles in withdrawing money from it. Could I at some point add a checking account to PP (it would however not have the same name as the card, this would belong to me)...it has been a while since I established my current PP account, does PP require (actually verify) anything more than the routing and account numbers? Or would it be easier to just add the new email to my existing (verified,premier) PP account.

The only fear that I have of that is the only registered email I have at PP is the same one on my EB that got got suspended. Obviously, this would be the easiest, but I don't want jeopardize the new EB account by "associating" it with the banned one. I am reasonabley sure that I can work it this way because I did the following:

Setup EB account with email "1"

Setup PP account with email "1"

transacted business for quite a while with no worries

Setup EB account with email "2"

Added email "2" to my existing PP account

Ran 2 seperate ebay accounts with no problems, ("2" only occassionally)

Used one PP account with both emails registered

EB account "1" get VeRO'd, gone, bye,bye forever.

Use EB account "2" for over a year with no problems

Both emails are still registered at PP however I only log in using "2" email.

EB suspends "2" for being assciated.

Fearing the worst I withdraw the $700 in PP and remove email "1" I keep "2" in hopes of being re-instated at EB

Register at EB with email "3" as described above.

Can I now register email "3" at PP clear all cookies again,and reset IP and until I learn the "absolute" fate of EB account "2" if that gets killed forever I will remove email "2" from PP and run a single account email "3" at both PP and EB.

I'd like to be able to pay, get paid and pay my seller fees all through PP without having to set up a non-verifiable account. I could do that just for the new account and send payments to my verified account, but that way I am just paying more fees to PP which I don't want to do.

I would greatly appreciate anyone who has actual experiences similar to the scenario I described above and whether they worked or not.

It seems like it worked for me for a year and I think it was something that I did that screwed things up as opposed to PP running to EB and giving them the old email to check against their "blacklist"

[coopster72]

Sounds like you are on the right track Dogfaceboy. The Simon account is easy. You only need to input the phone number when you activate the card. I would however get a free phone number anyway. Ebay and Paypal may try to call you down the road and if your number is disconnected they may suspend your account until you verify that you have a working number. If you get a local aimphoneline number be sure to call it once a month to keep it active. If you run aim in the toolbar it will notify you when you have an incoming call. You can then check your voicemail.

As far as Paypal, it's up to you. I would just start fresh with your friend's info. Get another checking account under your real name. Paypal only asked me for the account and routing number for verification, not even a name. They do not verify the name on the checking account either.

[DogFacedBoy]

Originally Posted by coopster72

Sounds like you are on the right track Dogfaceboy. The Simon account is easy. You only need to input the phone number when you activate the card. I would however get a free phone number anyway. Ebay and Paypal may try to call you down the road and if your number is disconnected they may suspend your account until you verify that you have a working number. If you get a local aimphoneline number be sure to call it once a month to keep it active. If you run aim in the toolbar it will notify you when you have an incoming call. You can then check your voicemail.

As far as Paypal, it's up to you. I would just start fresh with your friend's info. Get another checking account under your real name. Paypal only asked me for the account and routing number for verification, not even a name. They do not verify the name on the checking account either.

I currently have 2 checking accounts in my name that are not registered with PP. If the name on the account doesn't need to match the name I register with PP I am home free.

I will get the aim phone number for down the road.

I would like to get 3 or so EB accounts all up and running with PP accounts that I can withdraw from and just get back to selling and buying.

I would probably only use one and just have the other ones ready just in case.

Thanks for all of your help so far.

[x2ruff4u]

I tryed to buy a card from simon it keeps telling cannot process atm because its down. Then giftcards says the same thing also. Has anyone had this problem as of yesterday?