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I like to think our relationship transcends love.

If your going down the camera being an issue route though about 90% of London is covered by CCTV cameras (of course that just applies to London) so that may be a slight issues for someone living in a major city if they are that paranoid. If people are that worried about being caught trading BTC though they may have other bigger things to worry about.

You are correct in that nearly all ATMs do have cameras. There are a few of the older mobiles ones that don't yet, but I imagine that will change when they are upgraded.

I am not sure I have ever come across an normal ATM that needs a finger print and ID so that is news to me. Unless you are referring to the BTC dedicated ATMs? In which case that is a bit different.

I had heard of ATMs that are introducing retinal scans though in the future but as far as I know that is still in the realms of Sci Fi.

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Why the need to cash out anonymously anyway?

We don't condone criminal behaviour or tax evasion on this forum so cashing out BTC anonymously shouldn't really be discussed.

My personal preference is to use a BTC debit card.
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Whilst a faster payment can be disputed it cannot be automatically reversed and certainly not in 15 minutes.
It certainly can big boy!

15 minutes is just a random number, I didn't mean anything significant by it.

Talk to any big time traders on Localbitcoins and they will tell you UK bank transfers get frequently reversed. Its the most common scam they deal with.
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It certainly can big boy!

15 minutes is just a random number, I didn't mean anything significant by it.

Talk to any big time traders on Localbitcoins and they will tell you UK bank transfers get frequently reversed. Its the most common scam they deal with.

Take your condescending comments and do one.
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Take your condescending comments and do one.
When you gonna stop playing hard to get and let me take you out to dinner.

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I feel betrayed... I thought we had something special Elmo. I thought our arguing was flirting.

Its like a dagger through my heart
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When you gonna stop playing hard to get and let me take you out to dinner.

All I want to do is hold your hand and frolic through the meadows
If only that UK flag on your profile was genuine then I would take you up on that kind offer. I was somewhat disappointed when I discovered you actually live 4000 miles away in the US.
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Elmo.. i dont know about you but i certainly wouldnt want to be on the wrong side of a scotsman
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It certainly can big boy!

Talk to any big time traders on Localbitcoins and they will tell you UK bank transfers get frequently reversed. Its the most common scam they deal with.

This is just bollocks.

I know someone who was defrauded of 2k via bank transfer.

After the initial investigation the bank decided there was nothing they could do as he had willingly sent the money.

It's the safest payment method to accept as a seller.
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This is just bollocks.

I know someone who was defrauded of 2k via bank transfer.

After the initial investigation the bank decided there was nothing they could do as he had willingly sent the money.

It's the safest payment method to accept as a seller.
That reminds me, I too was defrauded when I was naive enough to have trusted someone on Gumtree by paying via Bank Transfer several years back.

Learned two lessons. Gumtree is for face to face deals. Bank Transfers cannot be reversed.
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This is just bollocks.

I know someone who was defrauded of 2k via bank transfer.

After the initial investigation the bank decided there was nothing they could do as he had willingly sent the money.

It's the safest payment method to accept as a seller.
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That reminds me, I too was defrauded when I was naive enough to have trusted someone on Gumtree by paying via Bank Transfer several years back.

Learned two lessons. Gumtree is for face to face deals. Bank Transfers cannot be reversed.
No one believes me lol...

If you guys want undeniable proof its very possible to get UK bank transfers reversed, send me a PM with your skype
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No one believes me lol...

If you guys want undeniable proof its very possible to get UK bank transfers reversed, send me a PM with your skype
Let's make this interesting. How about you send us a reasonable sum of money, then you can try your luck at reversing it. Of course if you fail, its ours to do as we will.

That ought to put this topic to rest.
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Let's make this interesting. How about you send us a reasonable sum of money, then you can try your luck at reversing it. Of course if you fail, its ours to do as we will.

That ought to put this topic to rest.
Why not hit up JamesNorth, he didn't believe it was possible either. I gave him the proof already. If you want it, just hit me up on skype or PM
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No you didn't give me proof... You showing me a Skype conversation you had with another person who said that it is possible. That just is not proof...

The other person in question simply said in the case of fraud bank transfers can sometimes be reversed, which is I imagine true in very very rare cases and only in cases of unauthorized bank transfers. That is very very different to what has been said in this thread & with all the banking fobs needed these days unauthorized bank transfers just doesn't happen anymore apart from the odd very rare example.

I once had a conversation with someone who swears that they saw a dinosaur. If I showed you that conversation would you then take that as proof that dinosaurs exist? Of course not.

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No you didn't give me proof... You showing me a Skype conversation you had with another person who said that it is possible is not proof...

The other person simply said in the case of fraud bank transfers can sometimes be reversed, which is true in very very rare cases and only in cases of unauthorized bank transfers they can be revered sometimes. That is very very different to what has been said in this thread & with all the banking fobs needed these days for bank transfers just doesn't happen anymore

I once had a conversation with someone who swears that they saw a dinosaur. If I showed you that conversation would you then take that as proof that dinosaurs exist? Of course not.
This is getting kind of repetitive.

I understand none of you guys believe UK bank transfers can be reversed.

That's fine, you guys are open to have your own opinions and thoughts.

However, if you want facts, they can most certainly get reversed and if you message any large BTC traders in the UK, they will all tell you its very common in the community. There are lots of scammers in the BTC world.

Don't take my word for it, hit any of them up:

https://localbitcoins.com/accounts/profile/Nesbit/
https://localbitcoins.com/accounts/profile/BitFastUK/
https://localbitcoins.com/accounts/profile/skegyuk/
https://localbitcoins.com/accounts/p.../aclassliving/
https://localbitcoins.com/accounts/profile/bbhgreb/

There are many many more traders besides the ones linked above

These are guys that accept probably 1000s of bank transfers every month and they will give you the facts. Their business is in making a percentage on exchanges and heavily volume / transaction. They're brokers that deal strictly through accepting bank transfer. If you don't believe me about reversals are possible, hit them up or any large Bitcoin traders.

Lets put this to rest though
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As I stated earlier a UK bank transfer can be disputed but there is no automatic reversal of funds. The recipient of the money is always contacted first.

The process is outlined here:-

What to do if you send money to wrong bank account MSE

I have personal experience of the process as well as I received 500 in error a few month ago. My bank wrote to me stating that the sender had made an error and if I didn't wish to dispute the matter it would be removed from my account within 2 weeks.

Elmo, you've been reading those posts on localbitcoin and jumping to the wrong conclusion. I don't dispute that some of these guys have lost money but it doesn't happen in the way you are claiming and not at the speed you are claiming either. It takes several weeks to recover funds and not the 15 minutes you stated earlier (that "fact" was a figure you just randomly pulled out the air).
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If you can't provide a credible source or definitive proof you just need to accept you are wrong on this one Elmo.

I personally am all for plays idea
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Here are my 5 cents. You can use some service like Wirex by using a stealth account, and preform all bitcoin operations at even more lower rates, and the plastic card allows to get cash at any time without meeting any people.
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Can you provide a reliable source that proves this statement.

I'd appreciate it as I'm with the other UK guys. All official documentation and websites state they can't be reversed without following a strict protocols.

I've just done a quick Google search but it's only sketchy people posting on forums who have had money reversed from their bank. So I take their testimony with a pinch of salt.
There will not be any, imho.

UK and Australia have strict regulations government wise as well as their own internal bank rules. Reversals are not guaranteed unless a long check list is fully ticked off.
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Ebayorbust does not want to have rabies shots though,Elmo. They hurt.

Don't weaken an argument you are already losing with wise cracks.

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Hey Everyone, after reading a few comments on this thread I had to weigh in and let you all know that ALL UK faster payments (which is the most preferred and instant transaction) can be easily revered in case of a fraud. Chaps payment however do not get reversed once sent out and it is not the most commonly used way to send money.

You may ask how I know this well I have been selling bitcoins on LBC for over 3 years and have the biggest profile in the UK. Fraud and AML are the main reasons why we ask for an ID. Infact now we go as far as asking for source of funds and even do skype video chat to determine if the buyer is genuine or not. SO for those who think UK transfers cannot be reversed you clearly don't know what you are on about.

This is my profile and where you can message me to verify my authenticity etc. Feel free to send some of your clients over too if you want them to buy bitcoins lol.

https://localbitcoins.com/accounts/profile/fatguyslim

I have 3 people who work for me too so if I am not online my following team members will help you out

https://localbitcoins.com/accounts/p...tguyslim.gary/
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