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bluepug 08-06-2018 10:40 AM

Re: Is Bitcoin the Future of Money?
 
Cryptocurrency Pump And Dump Schemes Growing.

https://www.pymnts.com/cryptocurrenc...-dump-schemes/

slokor 08-06-2018 11:49 AM

Re: Is Bitcoin the Future of Money?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hercules (Post 935438)
Other smarter people as you describe thought Madoff was for real for 30 odd years!! Or Y2K was the biggest con ever produced as bitcoin.
I'm only trying to warn you. When the mind finds a belief, it looks for data to make sure it's right (a safety mechanism) over looking the obvious flaws sometimes.

Thanks for the warning.
Nothing to worry about with me though - Ive already realized my profit several hundred times over as far as my Bitcoin investments go and all my holdings at the moment are off pure profit. I can afford to hold this long term and coupled with MY opinions and MY belief in the concept I feel quite comfortable doing so.

slokor 08-06-2018 11:52 AM

Re: Is Bitcoin the Future of Money?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bluepug (Post 935449)
Cryptocurrency Pump And Dump Schemes Growing.

https://www.pymnts.com/cryptocurrenc...-dump-schemes/

Please note that I refer to Bitcoin ONLY and differentiate between it and several other top level crypto currencies and all the other junk/scam altcoins which to me are garbage that is infecting the crypto market - the sooner those are gone the better for all involved (except the poor suckers who invested in them).

Beautiful 08-06-2018 02:41 PM

Re: Is Bitcoin the Future of Money?
 
This is a pretty good read if you believe Bitcoin isn't backed by anything

https://medium.com/@tomerstrolight/b...g-36265192b9a7

brownboy 08-06-2018 03:09 PM

Re: Is Bitcoin the Future of Money?
 
I just think it's way too volatile, once it stabilizes possibly.

newjerseymax 08-06-2018 03:13 PM

Re: Is Bitcoin the Future of Money?
 
I cant say if bitcoin will be the main world currency, but some type of coin will be internet currency. Right now bitcoin is leading cause not one person can shut it down.

The value in bitcoin: Decentralized store of value that no government can confiscate.

slokor 08-06-2018 03:13 PM

Re: Is Bitcoin the Future of Money?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Beautiful (Post 935489)
This is a pretty good read if you believe Bitcoin isn't backed by anything

https://medium.com/@tomerstrolight/b...g-36265192b9a7

Very good read that explain in simple terms the benefits and advantages of Bitcoin over the current system. I am especially fond of the access to it by anyone who doesn't have a bank account. Couple that with the fact it is borderless and you have roughly half the world's population who can now have access to a global payment system.
Not too shabby for a currency still in its infancy.

newjerseymax 08-06-2018 03:14 PM

Re: Is Bitcoin the Future of Money?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by slokor (Post 935463)
Please note that I refer to Bitcoin ONLY and differentiate between it and several other top level crypto currencies and all the other junk/scam altcoins which to me are garbage that is infecting the crypto market - the sooner those are gone the better for all involved (except the poor suckers who invested in them).

The ****coin bubble will bust....

dan_ebay 08-06-2018 09:31 PM

Re: Is Bitcoin the Future of Money?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Beautiful (Post 935489)
This is a pretty good read if you believe Bitcoin isn't backed by anything

https://medium.com/@tomerstrolight/b...g-36265192b9a7

Doesn't state any valid reason why it should be worth 1000s. I'll make a coin with a total supply of 10 and all of the attributes of Bitcoin if you're to pay me 1000s for each one? Let me know and I'll have it done by the end of the day lol.

slokor 08-06-2018 10:17 PM

Re: Is Bitcoin the Future of Money?
 
The fact its at the price level it is at points to the level of trust a LOT of people have in it. It didn't start at that price level remember? took several years for it to reach it. And if its at this price level now don't you think there is at least some validity to it? Or would you prefer to completely ignore all indicators to the contrary and call everyone who doesn't share your views on the matter morons? not the smartest way to go about it if you ask me.
As for your example - it doesn't hold water. If I printed a comic book tomorrow no one would buy it and it will have a value of $0. Yet if I had an Action Comics #1 Im a millionaire. The perceived value of anything out there depends on what EVERYBODY thinks its value should be - not just you. It took Bitcoin 10 years to get to where its at and the level of trust and its perceived value grew over the years. You think you can come in with a new coin and repeat the process overnight? good luck with that. That's the main problem in the crypto world today - over 1700 crypto currencies that thought the same way you did and are trying to do just that. To me the vast vast majority of those cryptocurrencies are $hitcoins and will be gone within the year.
Good luck with YOUR ICO though.

Canadianleaf 08-07-2018 06:10 AM

Re: Is Bitcoin the Future of Money?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bluepug (Post 935449)
Cryptocurrency Pump And Dump Schemes Growing.

https://www.pymnts.com/cryptocurrenc...-dump-schemes/


https://i.ytimg.com/vi/TRXdxiot5JM/maxresdefault.jpg

dan_ebay 08-07-2018 08:06 AM

Re: Is Bitcoin the Future of Money?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by slokor (Post 935590)
The fact its at the price level it is at points to the level of trust a LOT of people have in it. It didn't start at that price level remember? took several years for it to reach it. And if its at this price level now don't you think there is at least some validity to it? Or would you prefer to completely ignore all indicators to the contrary and call everyone who doesn't share your views on the matter morons? not the smartest way to go about it if you ask me.
As for your example - it doesn't hold water. If I printed a comic book tomorrow no one would buy it and it will have a value of $0. Yet if I had an Action Comics #1 Im a millionaire. The perceived value of anything out there depends on what EVERYBODY thinks its value should be - not just you. It took Bitcoin 10 years to get to where its at and the level of trust and its perceived value grew over the years. You think you can come in with a new coin and repeat the process overnight? good luck with that. That's the main problem in the crypto world today - over 1700 crypto currencies that thought the same way you did and are trying to do just that. To me the vast vast majority of those cryptocurrencies are $hitcoins and will be gone within the year.
Good luck with YOUR ICO though.

I didn't call anyone a moron.

No not really as barely anyone is using it for what it was designed to be, a currency or payment processor. They're just speculating on the price.

I used to like the idea but so far all this 'decentralized' nonsense has just shown exactly why we need things to be centralized, scammers etc everywhere. It's also far easy to manipulate than any centralized currency is.

Yes I could easily make a coin with the same attributes as Bitcoin obviously as it's open source. Would be a different story to get people to speculate on it as they do with Bitcoin.
The price of crypto doesn't really mean as much as with stocks etc though as they're actually backed by profit making companies. I could make the 10 coins as in my example, buy 0.001 from myself for $10 and my 10 coins are now supposedly worth $100k.

Hercules 08-07-2018 10:59 AM

Re: Is Bitcoin the Future of Money?
 
The fact is there is no fact. Let's say the the economy goes in to a recession with the Dow retracing to 12,000 or so for a few years. You believe that your Bitcoins will remain at or near it's value it is now? How will it come back? If you got a 100 grand in a real bank it will still be a 100 grand. It may or may not buy as much but at least it's there to reinvest or whatever.

slokor 08-07-2018 11:41 AM

Re: Is Bitcoin the Future of Money?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dan_ebay (Post 935631)
I could make the 10 coins as in my example, buy 0.001 from myself for $10 and my 10 coins are now supposedly worth $100k.

Wrong.
To YOU they might have that value but good luck convincing the rest of the world of that value. The value of bitcoin is held by consensus of a lot more than one single individual as you in your case. The trade volume you will be showing will clearly indicate what youre trying to do. Have a look at the trading level for Bitcoins.
Not as simple as youre trying to make it sound.

slokor 08-07-2018 11:43 AM

Re: Is Bitcoin the Future of Money?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hercules (Post 935660)
The fact is there is no fact. Let's say the the economy goes in to a recession with the Dow retracing to 12,000 or so for a few years. You believe that your Bitcoins will remain at or near it's value it is now? How will it come back? If you got a 100 grand in a real bank it will still be a 100 grand. It may or may not buy as much but at least it's there to reinvest or whatever.

Actually if that happens I believe the chances of Bitcoin shooting up in value are rather high. Wont surprise me if it is held as a safe haven investment similar to the US dollar in times of uncertainty.

newjerseymax 08-07-2018 01:24 PM

Re: Is Bitcoin the Future of Money?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by slokor (Post 935665)
Actually if that happens I believe the chances of Bitcoin shooting up in value are rather high. Wont surprise me if it is held as a safe haven investment similar to the US dollar in times of uncertainty.

Pretty much like Gold. Except you keep it yourself, instead of some centralized bank, which government can take at anytime.

cryptoc 08-22-2018 06:27 AM

Re: Is Bitcoin the Future of Money?
 
Hey,
Over the years Bitcoins has been surprised everyone and not sure what it will be future. But as the time is going online, the currency has an upper hand to be equally to Money.

empirestate 08-22-2018 04:57 PM

Re: Is Bitcoin the Future of Money?
 
Bitcoin is store of value. Who knows if it will be here after 30years...

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slokor 08-22-2018 06:06 PM

Re: Is Bitcoin the Future of Money?
 
Hey look whos back spewing pearls of wisdom.
You sure you want to start up again? might want to quit while youre behind. Just a thought for you.

rsot 08-22-2018 07:31 PM

Re: Is Bitcoin the Future of Money?
 
empirestate is back with a vengeance :thumb:

TonyWestley 08-27-2018 03:37 PM

Re: Is Bitcoin the Future of Money?
 
Bitcoin has no future, you will not ever remember bitcoin name after few years. Mark my word

Beautiful 08-28-2018 02:03 PM

Re: Is Bitcoin the Future of Money?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TonyWestley (Post 939894)
Bitcoin has no future, you will not ever remember bitcoin name after few years. Mark my word

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