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CryptoCurrency Discuss all CryptoCurrencies / coins and their use for personal or business purposes. Bitcoin (BTC) is possibly the best known but there are numerous crypto currencies, this is the forum to discuss them all.

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Crypotcurrency has garnered attention from the HMRC, and it is important to be aware of the rules regarding this.

The mere purchase of cryptocurrency tokens does not incur any sort of tax liability...however, the acquisition of them via mining does. No liability is owed where the value is less than 1000, or your total other taxable income does not exceed 2500.

Contrary to popular belief, bitcoin is not entirely anonymous. The blockchain is a public ledger and publicly accessible, and with a little homework (and believe me, HMRC certainly has both the resources and inclination to chase it up); the recipient and sender of the transaction can be identified.

Tumbling/mixing is a service where the original transaction of the blockchain ledger is obfuscated with a new one, providing the recipient privacy and increased security.

And therein lies something of a legal grey area: theoretically, ANY sum of money can be subject to and seized under Anti Money Laundering Regulations 2002.

If bitcoins or any other crypto was acquired through illegal activity (drug trafficking, arms dealing etc), then yes, the use of tumbling would constitute money laundering.

However, it would appear as it stands that tumblers in and of themselves do not for UK purposes constitute money laundering vehicles. The flip-flopping the UK govt has done so far regarding the actual legal definition of crypto (there are calls for its current status as tokens to be classed as legal tender) only further complicate things.

Only time will tell what will be the ultimate fate of it.
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Definitely not anonymous - and will be tracked these days if nefarious activity is suspected
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Cops like to run tumblers as bait. Seems naive to tumble with any method other than BTC->XMR->BTC.
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Cops like to run tumblers as bait. Seems naive to tumble with any method other than BTC->XMR->BTC.
This would make a lot of sense, but you say it based on what? This is the first time I'm hearing about that.

God bless XMR.

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Extremely common on .onion's. You're almost looked down on if you suggest any other method.
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