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DanielPatrick 01-28-2020 06:44 PM

Starting with DropShipping
 
I would like to start doing DropShipping. Obviously, I'll be reading some of the threads that are already active, however I'd appreciate if someone can point me towards the right direction.

Can you please give me some tips and information that is good to know?

slokor 01-28-2020 06:46 PM

Re: Starting with DropShipping
 
Start with the stealth guide.

sax4 01-28-2020 07:10 PM

Re: Starting with DropShipping
 
The general idea is simple, you sell something on Ebay or Amazon( or other sites) that you can find cheaper somewhere else, then send it straight to your customer.

You can learn on the job, look for some price differences between Amazon and Ebay for example, or between two Amazon sites like Amazon UK and DE.

For example with Amazon UK you can look for the top selling items, then check Amazon Germany and see what price those same items sell for there, can be a big difference.

Or find an item on Amazon for say 50 eur, then create a new listing with slightly different wording, and try to sell for 200 eur.

etc

agent006140 01-28-2020 07:30 PM

Re: Starting with DropShipping
 
what is that new rule AMZN comes up with return?
if you order an item and ask to be shipped to someone else,if the item is returned back to AMZN,AMZN may not credit your account for the return?

DanielPatrick 01-28-2020 07:32 PM

Re: Starting with DropShipping
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sax4 (Post 1065228)
The general idea is simple, you sell something on Ebay or Amazon( or other sites) that you can find cheaper somewhere else, then send it straight to your customer.

You can learn on the job, look for some price differences between Amazon and Ebay for example, or between two Amazon sites like Amazon UK and DE.

For example with Amazon UK you can look for the top selling items, then check Amazon Germany and see what price those same items sell for there, can be a big difference.

Or find an item on Amazon for say 50 eur, then create a new listing with slightly different wording, and try to sell for 200 eur.

etc

Thanks for the info! And, how about the buyer's address? How do I add it once the listed item has been sold?

DanielPatrick 01-30-2020 07:14 PM

Re: Starting with DropShipping
 
Why do some retailers and wholesalers say that you need to buy with piece order, say a minimum of 20 pieces? As far as I know, DropShipping is when you sell online and you don't have any stock, correct? The DropShipper should be responsible to send the item to the buyer once a purchase has been made. Am I correct?

rsot 01-30-2020 08:15 PM

Re: Starting with DropShipping
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DanielPatrick (Post 1065805)
Why do some retailers and wholesalers say that you need to buy with piece order, say a minimum of 20 pieces? As far as I know, DropShipping is when you sell online and you don't have any stock, correct? The DropShipper should be responsible to send the item to the buyer once a purchase has been made. Am I correct?

Could be due to size of item - shipping 1 vs (say) 20 is economical for shipping rate...?

agent006140 01-30-2020 08:49 PM

Re: Starting with DropShipping
 
true wholesalers do not deal in nickel and dime,they expect you the retailer to order enough quantity,as wholesale price is 50% of retail,they make money by selling in volume.
true wholesaler also does not dropship for you,unless they are big ticket item like a tractor,server,rig,

Stastoday 01-31-2020 06:40 AM

Re: Starting with DropShipping
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DanielPatrick (Post 1065223)
I would like to start doing DropShipping. Obviously, I'll be reading some of the threads that are already active, however I'd appreciate if someone can point me towards the right direction.

Can you please give me some tips and information that is good to know?

There is a lot of information on youtube. Of course there is lots of crap but you can find really usefull information for the beginners. You need some time and patience to find it and study then. Nothing difficult.
Then if you succeed in dropshipping sales, your first real ebay account 100% will get MC011 and you will be forced to study Stealth cause you won't be able to create accounts on ebay anymore.

rsot 01-31-2020 07:55 AM

Re: Starting with DropShipping
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stastoday (Post 1065878)
There is a lot of information on youtube. Of course there is lots of crap but you can find really usefull information for the beginners. You need some time and patience to find it and study then. Nothing difficult.
Then if you succeed in dropshipping sales, your first real ebay account 100% will get MC011 and you will be forced to study Stealth cause you won't be able to create accounts on ebay anymore.

Or just go stealth from the get-go

agent006140 01-31-2020 08:26 AM

Re: Starting with DropShipping
 
if your so called dropship/wholesaler is asking you to buy 20 pieces,then he aint dropship for you,he wants you to buy 20 pieces and you can sell them one by one.
Or they will ship to your buyer if he is buying 20 pieces,not one piece.
so if you must have those pieces,then either take 20 into your inventory or find some buyer who would buy 20 pieces or more

Pedroalva 01-31-2020 08:31 PM

Re: Starting with DropShipping
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 1065826)
true wholesalers do not deal in nickel and dime,they expect you the retailer to order enough quantity,as wholesale price is 50% of retail,they make money by selling in volume.
true wholesaler also does not dropship for you,unless they are big ticket item like a tractor,server,rig,


Can you confirm that all the hundred of thousands of suppliers do the things on this way?

agent006140 02-01-2020 12:21 AM

Re: Starting with DropShipping
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pedroalva (Post 1066066)
Can you confirm that all the hundred of thousands of suppliers do the things on this way?

They lack ambitions and far sight,they will never be Henry Ford or ELon Musk or Atilla the Hun.
they are probably the carriers of corona virus

afincho 02-01-2020 05:14 AM

Re: Starting with DropShipping
 
I would not look over Amazon for dropshipping as it already supersaturated and the profit margins are very tiny. 2/3% per sale.

It could Works well with suppliers like Walmart / Bestbuy / Costco. I would not suggest using China suppliers at this moment because of the virus which makes it harder to ship goods outside of China.

Start to dropship and if you see that 1 product works for you, buy bulk for a wholesale price and have control over your own supply.

rsot 02-01-2020 08:53 AM

Re: Starting with DropShipping
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 1066093)
They lack ambitions and far sight,they will never be Henry Ford or ELon Musk or Atilla the Hun.
they are probably the carriers of corona virus

Funny gibberish :)

agent006140 02-01-2020 09:14 AM

Re: Starting with DropShipping
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by afincho (Post 1066115)
I would not look over Amazon for dropshipping as it already supersaturated and the profit margins are very tiny. 2/3% per sale.

It could Works well with suppliers like Walmart / Bestbuy / Costco. I would not suggest using China suppliers at this moment because of the virus which makes it harder to ship goods outside of China.

Start to dropship and if you see that 1 product works for you, buy bulk for a wholesale price and have control over your own supply.

Walmart/Bestbuy/Costco are not dropshipppers in the eyes of Ebay and AMZN,please look up retail arbitrage and why your accounts will be banned by both.
Too many people in this game ,thin profit could be wiped out by a few mishap,the early birds did make a lot of money.

afincho 02-01-2020 09:15 AM

Re: Starting with DropShipping
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 1066141)
Walmart/Bestbuy/Costco are not dropshipppers in the eyes of Ebay and AMZN,please look up retail arbitrage and why your accounts will be banned by both.
Too many people in this game ,thin profit could be wiped out by a few mishap,the early birds did make a lot of money.

Well, there is a difference between your words and the actual search results on eBay.

DanielPatrick 02-01-2020 09:29 AM

Re: Starting with DropShipping
 

Pedroalva 02-01-2020 09:49 AM

Re: Starting with DropShipping
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 1066093)
They lack ambitions and far sight,they will never be Henry Ford or ELon Musk or Atilla the Hun.
they are probably the carriers of corona virus


Wow you know everything

agent006140 02-01-2020 10:18 AM

Re: Starting with DropShipping
 
what I mean to say is that those so called wholesalers willing to dropship retail orders of one or two items are not true wholesalers/manufacturers/distributors.
True wholesalers have overhead and their business models are geared towards large orders based on pricing and profit.
Since true wholesale price is 50% of retail,they just cant afford to make their worker fulfill small order (labor cost and backoffice paperwork).

agent006140 02-01-2020 10:28 AM

Re: Starting with DropShipping
 
I will cite an example-
I have a supplier who had a factory in China,he will design the item and the factory will make them,then they will be shipped to CA ,after they pay customs and freight and the efforts of designing and instructing the factory how to make them,plus breakage once arrived and unpacked,they charge me $3/piece,thats wholesale price and I will order usually 200 pieces.
I will also order some larger pieces,say around $28/piece.
so that $1-2k per order,someone has to go to the warehouse and pick the different styles .
Can you imagine if they are dropshipping one or two of these items at $3 a piece? or they start charging more,lets say $5 a piece and they have to charge your cc ,prepare an invoice,shipping label and take it to the post office?
Most suppliers do not use USPS ,as they cant afford to have someone stand in line at the post office,they are paid to work,not to stand in line.

Pedroalva 02-01-2020 10:49 AM

Re: Starting with DropShipping
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 1066168)
what I mean to say is that those so called wholesalers willing to dropship retail orders of one or two items are not true wholesalers/manufacturers/distributors.
True wholesalers have overhead and their business models are geared towards large orders based on pricing and profit.
Since true wholesale price is 50% of retail,they just cant afford to make their worker fulfill small order (labor cost and backoffice paperwork).

There is no difference true or not true wholesaler can't divide in category ,
There are big wholesalers that sell also one item at the time by increasing the price

DanielPatrick 02-01-2020 10:52 AM

Re: Starting with DropShipping
 
After all, that's the true purpose of DropShipping, so you don't keep any stock or inventory yourself and just inform the DropShipper to ship the item to that particular customer. You're only responsible for the payment and that the item gets delivered timely and fully.

Pedroalva 02-01-2020 11:01 AM

Re: Starting with DropShipping
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DanielPatrick (Post 1066181)
After all, that's the true purpose of DropShipping, so you don't keep any stock or inventory yourself and just inform the DropShipper to ship the item to that particular customer. You're only responsible for the payment and that the item gets delivered timely and fully.

..and a buyer that is patient to wait :)

DanielPatrick 02-01-2020 11:15 AM

Re: Starting with DropShipping
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pedroalva (Post 1066184)
..and a buyer that is patient to wait :)

Yeah, that's correct! :d

agent006140 02-01-2020 11:22 AM

Re: Starting with DropShipping
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pedroalva (Post 1066179)
There is no difference true or not true wholesaler can't divide in category ,
There are big wholesalers that sell also one item at the time by increasing the price

then they are making up the extra overhead by raising the price .
Some may not even want to do so,as they only sell to retailers who has accounts with them,and not every retailer who applies get approved.
A friend of mine is a camera guy,he is now retired , collecting SS disability ,so he suggested I sell Leica camera,as he is limited by SS to earn income.
Now,you dont have to be Einstein to know,LEica is the rolls royce of cameras,is it going to let two stay at home mom and pop business sell their products?

agent006140 02-01-2020 11:28 AM

Re: Starting with DropShipping
 
In the early days of Paypal,those who rely on vendors to dropship laptops,and other popular electronic goods to their Ebay buyer lost money in $$thousands,back then PAYPAL gives us 7 days to have the item delivered domestic,and the vendors cant source enough and miss the deadline,while the items are in transit ,buyer file INR and win,end up with nice freebies.

afincho 02-02-2020 02:39 AM

Re: Starting with DropShipping
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 1066168)
what I mean to say is that those so called wholesalers willing to dropship retail orders of one or two items are not true wholesalers/manufacturers/distributors.
True wholesalers have overhead and their business models are geared towards large orders based on pricing and profit.
Since true wholesale price is 50% of retail,they just cant afford to make their worker fulfill small order (labor cost and backoffice paperwork).

Of course, AMZ / Walmart / Aliexpress is not retail wholesale, but before anyone decided to purchase goods in bulk he better dropship first to test the water if it works than he can start seeking wholesale. Purchasing wholesale without experience is a recipe for a disaster.

Pedroalva 02-02-2020 08:58 AM

Re: Starting with DropShipping
 
dropship to other is a failed method because can't handle the item ,most of cases finishing to refund the buyer because it arrive late or get lost or is damage/not working and also may get ngative feedback and claims

not worth

agent006140 02-02-2020 09:47 AM

Re: Starting with DropShipping
 
many are still doing it,making little money on each order,so if a few orders go bad,it wipes out their profit

rsot 02-02-2020 10:40 AM

Re: Starting with DropShipping
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 1066359)
many are still doing it,making little money on each order,so if a few orders go bad,it wipes out their profit

Volume and diversification

hak3865 05-10-2020 09:41 AM

Re: Starting with DropShipping
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 1066141)
Walmart/Bestbuy/Costco are not dropshipppers in the eyes of Ebay and AMZN,please look up retail arbitrage and why your accounts will be banned by both.
Too many people in this game ,thin profit could be wiped out by a few mishap,the early birds did make a lot of money.

So, what dropshipping gurus are teaching: start dropshipping from walmart, home depot, costco, and other retail stores, is not dropshipping, but retail arbitrage, and will get you suspended from ebay/amazon, correct? If I dropship from a true wholesaler, that would be okay in the eyes of ebay/amazon?

Why do these supposed gurus tell you to dropship from retail stores? I know the bottom line is making money for them in their courses, but at least teach something that won't get you banned!


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