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09-14-2010
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I stumbled upon alibaba by mistake last night. I was thinking of ordering some pillow pets since my pillow pets is no longer taking applications for wholesale account until January 2011.
Are the products on alibaba less than authentic? Has anyone received an order? Has anyone that has paid via WU received thir order?
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Nice thread to start - I was looking at getting some articles for personal use but this whole WU, Money Gram or bank transfer payment options = too fishy for me.
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Be VERY Careful on AliBaba (Home of the 40 Thieves),,,,
You can find some of the BEST Deals/Products/Manufactures and Distributors There,,,,
You will also Run into More Scams, Scamartists, and Thieves,,,than you have Sand on a Beach,,,
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i have done some orders from there dont do western union or money gram
always use paypal because u dont know if any problems with products and sometimes they wont exchange . at least with paypal u have some protection being the buyer ....
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The fact is, any item that is copyrighted or trademarked cannot legally be imported into the USA unless you have the permission of the copyright or trademark owner. Which you will never get.
Alibaba is a good source of non-branded items, but like Slapped pointed out, there are a lot of scam artists operating on the site. And all of the US Movie and TV show DVD's, Louis Vuitton handbags, Rolex watches, etc. are counterfeits. I don't know the wholesale price for a real Rolex watch, but I can guarantee you it is NOT $75.
Having said that, people DO buy stuff from there, and much of it does make it through to you. But any copyrighted or trademarked items that are inspected by US Customs will be seized. If you try to import a large enough quantity, law enfoircement may want to have a few words with you.
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Originally Posted by helpmeplease
Are the products on alibaba less than authentic? | China is not going to sell a product for a fraction of the price and be real. You can just forget that silly dream
If its a brand name product, at a wicked price, It will be a knock off
I ordered some parts off there. They do whatever they can to get you off the site [The few I dealt with did]. I dont really care to do business with anything that has no chargeback like WU. And in my few experiences the pricing was all out to lunch with shipping. Items were marked as free shipping and were far from it. It seemed they were more interested in getting my email and coming at me that way.
But again, my personal experience is pretty limited. But when a big company only takes Western union I'm not cool with that. I assume they dont want chargebacks if you lose all your knock offs. And makes sense. But if I get a crate of crap I want to be able to do a chargeback if they wont play fair. With WU they dont even need to send you anything.
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you should only use the Aliexpress because they use escrow such as dhgate. Dont ever send western union and never use voguebagworld they will rip you off
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I would NEVER send a seller money via Western Union. HOWEVER - I do trust the DHgate e-wallet. Never had a problem. Never had more than $2k in it, though.
Aliexpress is even easier, as their payment system has no issues like DHgate's does.
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just go with paypal as you do not know this supplier before.
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One step above Paypal is to use the credit card option. I like the credit card protection. Hell I made one personal purchase othetr day from dhgate and that paypal got limited...asking for seller's invoice and nonsense ha - too funny
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I'd stay away from Alibaba as I got burned for $250 last month. I used WU and i knew better but everything looked legit.Although $250 isnt that big of a loss. Thank GOD I only placed a small order. My advise ....Stay away from alibaba
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well, stay away from WU would be better advice. As noted above Aliexpress is a branch of them and seller does not get paid until you receive and release payment
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Sorry to hear that ghostboy.
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its one of those mistakes you make late at nite. I knew it was a gamble and a little too good to be true but.... i took a chance and lost. I knew better but.....
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There is NOTHING Really wrong with Alibaba,,,I Know what I Myself have Said about it,,,,,Sure there are Thieves,,,ScamArtists,,,,and ALL Sorts of LowLives there,,,But,,Honestly,,,There EVERYWHERE,,,Take a GOOD Look Around,,,The Difference is that on other Sites they Just Know how to Hide Better,,,
The TRUTH is that if you as a Potential Buyer Exercise Good,,,,SOLID,,,Common Sense,,,and SMART Judgement,,,You will NEVER Become a Victim of one of these Guys
99 times out of 100,,,it is the Very Competetive Aggressiveness within OURSELVES that Allows Potential Buyers to make VERY Stupid decisions,,,,,,Thinking that They are getting a "Deal",,,,,Only to be turned into another VICTIM
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Don't forget money can be made buying and selling no brand products at good competitive prices, I would recommend using Aliexpress look around for a product you think will sell and then check the person selling it, by check I mean read his feedback (If any) if he has none or low negative stay well clear, once you being doing it for long enough you start getting the feel of things, sometimes gut instincts, I've never been scammed I've been using aliexpress for some time now and will continue in a safe manner, as much I hate Paypal/Ebay connection, I would highly recommend Paypal with sites like that simply because it's safer and you can get your money back if any problems occur, good luck.
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Always true Slapped. Good to hear tanxful.
Paypal won't protect you for your off-ebay purchases in general. That's why I prefer credit card option.
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So if i buy from aliexpress and the goods are not upto scratch i can reclaim my money easy enough?
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Originally Posted by arshavin So if i buy from aliexpress and the goods are not upto scratch i can reclaim my money easy enough? |
"up to scratch",,,,,,,,,,,I Like That
Yea,,, their Dispute Process is Just about the same as DH Gates,,,,
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I have bought a few items through alibaba and always had them arrive.
Just research the companys as there are alot of scammers on there, also read the forums |
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I have never had a dispute on DHGATE either. Say if goods arrive from aliexpress and they are not as described i can get my money back no problem?
The seller has 16 positive feedbacks which must count for something but the item costs alot and takes up a big amount of my funds. I asked the seller if i could halve the order but the price per piece then goes through the roof.
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