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| teedon | 04-08-2014 03:23 AM |
open china market
Maybe people need to change the idea,not is import the goods from china,why not sell the goods to china?China have big big market for any nice products,chinese is get rich than ever and they are able to purchase more items now. |
| Callidus | 04-08-2014 03:40 AM |
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What sort of items are in demand in China? What can't they make that the UK / USA have? |
| teedon | 04-08-2014 03:48 AM |
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Your question is an very good question but also it is very diffculty to answer.Maybe this need many people to comment and discuss and it need to take time to find out.
So far as i known,chinese people is more like the high tech products |
| Futuremogul888 | 04-08-2014 05:10 AM |
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One of the biggest problems with doing that it that while shipping from China is cheap, Shipping to china from the West is expensive.
China's success in selling to the US is mainly because of their ability to undercut, even with the cost of shipping, the cost of western made goods. For obvious reasons the US would not be successful in the strategy.
I think what you are suggesting is that western sellers go the premium route in China. The problem is China already has what China wants. China is not newly rich. It has been stocking premium western goods for a long time. |
| JamesNorth101 | 04-08-2014 05:21 AM |
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Really need to be competitive and unique to enter the Asian markets - especially where you are open to being copied and taken out |
| teedon | 06-12-2014 01:49 AM |
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You need to be the 1st one to find out and 1st to enter the market and then you might would get success. |
| stevebills | 07-26-2014 08:17 AM |
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Originally Posted by teedon
(Post 543599)
Maybe people need to change the idea,not is import the goods from china,why not sell the goods to china?China have big big market for any nice products,chinese is get rich than ever and they are able to purchase more items now.
| I presume you would need a Hong Kong trading company to save paying tax in th UK:thumb: |
| jeffweico | 07-26-2014 04:53 PM |
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I will have to think about this...
You would have to ask yourself, "If I were a citizen of China, what would *I* want that I couldn't get locally, but is available in the US/UK/Wherever?"
Since most electronics are made in China, I don't see much room there for international sales. So, you would have to find a niche product, or products, that would appeal to a Chinese buyer.
And Teedon is correct, many Chinese are moving into the middle class and they DO have money to spend. China is not "newly rich" but many of its citizens are becoming better off than they were even 5 years ago. And that DOES open up some opportunities.
Shipping costs ARE a consideration. Shipping from China to America is cheap, but shipping from America to China is still fairly expensive.
The crunching sound you hear is my brain trying to figure this out!
:pound: |
| bananaappeal | 07-26-2014 10:46 PM |
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My previous employer (before my days of online trade) exported designer garden lights too many asian countries. Took them 3 years for before export ended and exact copies were produce even though they were patented.
Another story ive heard very recently is that of a self employed gentlemen here in Australia has a 250k annum setup exporting some sort of light bulb to China.
My partner is in rental property management so personal income stories are regular. |
| stevebills | 07-27-2014 07:16 AM |
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China have TaoBao and no way ebay is taking over them with there ripoff prices it would be like sending royal mail over there when they get it free already
its doomed |
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Originally Posted by jeffweico
(Post 570993)
Shipping costs ARE a consideration. Shipping from China to America is cheap, but shipping from America to China is still fairly expensive.
The crunching sound you hear is my brain trying to figure this out!
:pound:
| Too true ugh - been trying to deal some pharma stuff and the shipping costs are annoying |
| jeffweico | 07-28-2014 02:56 AM |
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Originally Posted by stevebills
(Post 571120)
China have TaoBao and no way ebay is taking over them with there ripoff prices it would be like sending royal mail over there when they get it free already
its doomed
| China is a manufacturing powerhouse, there is no way that someone in the US or the UK is going to be able to sell Digital Cameras to the Chinese when they can get better stuff locally and they can get it cheaper.
To be successful in exporting to China, you need to find a product that is not available in China and that the Chinese people want. That is not an easy thing to find. But if you DO find it, the rewards can be excellent!
That is why I mentioned niche products. You can forget about electronics and anything else they manufacture in China by the boatload.
But in many ways, it is the same as selling on eBay. New sellers always want to sell the most popular items and end up chasing their tails in a quest to find that fabled wholesale source of $100 iPads that everyone has heard about, but nobody has actually found (because it does not exist). Those of us who are successful quickly realize that trying to source such items is a waste of time. You need products that are popular enough to make some sales, but have not attracted a lot of competition. And that is not always easy. But when you find it (especially that FIRST one!) you start to think differently. My most successful items are obscure, things that most people do not even know exist. These items appeal to a limited pool of buyers, but are in high demand among that pool.
At one time, before competition heated up, I sold cleaning wipes for the plastic tubing that connected air masks to CPAP machines. These are medical devices used by individuals who have sleep apnea. Most people will never need such a device and have no idea it even exists. But those who use them need to clean these plastic tubes religiously to avoid any bacterial growth which can cause respiratory infections. Back when I found the product, it was common to see 50 wipes going for $49.95. I found a wholesale source for $6 and sold them for $20. I quickly became a beloved eBay seller to those who needed the product. Of course, over time, others found my niche - monkey see, monkey do, and competition drove the price down to $9 or so. Which is good for the consumers, but for me? Not so much.
My point is, if you are going to be successful on eBay, selling in China (or anywhere else, really) you need to forget the latest, hottest products. Because these products are easy to think of and are in high demand, everybody and his brother wants to sell them. Newbies have dreams about buying $100 iPods and selling them for $400 and becoming a millionaire in 60 days or less. But that is just a fantasy. Others, who try to find niches and are successful, are cleaning up. |
| GreenBean | 07-28-2014 02:59 AM |
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Another point is niche items go out of fashion.
There is a risk of having stock no longer possible to move.
:ranger: |
| stevebills | 07-28-2014 03:25 AM |
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u mean I cant sell my old amstrad? |
| teedon | 07-28-2014 05:38 AM |
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Amstrad is high tech product,but mostly UK market only. |
| teedon | 07-28-2014 05:48 AM |
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Originally Posted by jeffweico
(Post 571388)
China is a manufacturing powerhouse, there is no way that someone in the US or the UK is going to be able to sell Digital Cameras to the Chinese when they can get better stuff locally and they can get it cheaper.
To be successful in exporting to China, you need to find a product that is not available in China and that the Chinese people want. That is not an easy thing to find. But if you DO find it, the rewards can be excellent!
That is why I mentioned niche products. You can forget about electronics and anything else they manufacture in China by the boatload.
But in many ways, it is the same as selling on eBay. New sellers always want to sell the most popular items and end up chasing their tails in a quest to find that fabled wholesale source of $100 iPads that everyone has heard about, but nobody has actually found (because it does not exist). Those of us who are successful quickly realize that trying to source such items is a waste of time. You need products that are popular enough to make some sales, but have not attracted a lot of competition. And that is not always easy. But when you find it (especially that FIRST one!) you start to think differently. My most successful items are obscure, things that most people do not even know exist. These items appeal to a limited pool of buyers, but are in high demand among that pool.
At one time, before competition heated up, I sold cleaning wipes for the plastic tubing that connected air masks to CPAP machines. These are medical devices used by individuals who have sleep apnea. Most people will never need such a device and have no idea it even exists. But those who use them need to clean these plastic tubes religiously to avoid any bacterial growth which can cause respiratory infections. Back when I found the product, it was common to see 50 wipes going for $49.95. I found a wholesale source for $6 and sold them for $20. I quickly became a beloved eBay seller to those who needed the product. Of course, over time, others found my niche - monkey see, monkey do, and competition drove the price down to $9 or so. Which is good for the consumers, but for me? Not so much.
My point is, if you are going to be successful on eBay, selling in China (or anywhere else, really) you need to forget the latest, hottest products. Because these products are easy to think of and are in high demand, everybody and his brother wants to sell them. Newbies have dreams about buying $100 iPods and selling them for $400 and becoming a millionaire in 60 days or less. But that is just a fantasy. Others, who try to find niches and are successful, are cleaning up.
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Very detailed Analysis and very useful knowledge |
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Originally Posted by rsot
(Post 571159)
Too true ugh - been trying to deal some pharma stuff and the shipping costs are annoying
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the cheapest ive seen with the company i use for ups and dhl atleast from here is $5 a pound for china that too 3 weeks.lol |
| invince | 07-29-2014 03:24 AM |
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In China a lot of people pay for middlemen to buy things overseas on their behalf, because those brands are not available in China, or it's much more expensive in China.
Most important of all, they're afraid of getting ⊗⊗⊗⊗ products in China. |
| Airun | 07-30-2014 10:05 PM |
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Since we have some chinese sellers in here I was curious about selling blu rays. Not a lot of money selling them online here in the US. Was curious about new releases on blu ray in China. Never seen or heard of a ⊗⊗⊗⊗ blu rays in China only dvd. I know some people burn them but do they sell actual authentic blu rays in China of new US releases? |
| unkown5454 | 07-30-2014 10:36 PM |
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Originally Posted by Airun
(Post 572447)
Since we have some chinese sellers in here I was curious about selling blu rays. Not a lot of money selling them online here in the US. Was curious about new releases on blu ray in China. Never seen or heard of a ⊗⊗⊗⊗ blu rays in China only dvd. I know some people burn them but do they sell actual authentic blu rays in China of new US releases?
| Is this a joke? They've been doing it for years. :pound: :pound: :pound: |
| Airun | 07-31-2014 07:38 AM |
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I know they "burn" blu rays but I have never come across a replicated blu ray, one with the silver back. Quote:
Originally Posted by unkown5454
(Post 572451)
Is this a joke? They've been doing it for years. :pound: :pound: :pound:
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Originally Posted by Airun
(Post 572579)
I know they "burn" blu rays but I have never come across a replicated blu ray, one with the silver back.
| Never researched this myself - shrug |
| xShevaa7x | 07-31-2014 12:30 PM |
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Originally Posted by invince
(Post 571735)
In China a lot of people pay for middlemen to buy things overseas on their behalf, because those brands are not available in China, or it's much more expensive in China.
Most important of all, they're afraid of getting ⊗⊗⊗⊗ products in China.
| I agree with this. The only way I can see someone breaking into the market in China is to have a huge budget. Chinese people want some quality products that are harder to come like phones we have in the west and other branded items that are largely ⊗⊗⊗⊗d.
I think a market exists for quality products, but you would need a huge budget and permission from the brands to set up something like that. A guy on youtube has set his own business up in China, which offers quality motorbike components, builds and customisation. Everyone else around him sells cheap parts for low prices, but they break easily and aren't of the same quality. He actually has a place in the market.
China is lacking quality products like phones, tablets, motorbikes and cars. I can't really see how anyone outside of China can do anything like this, shipping prices are very high and I don't know if they're reliable or safe as I have never shipped to China. |
| teedon | 08-07-2014 10:24 AM |
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There is demand,there is market.
Chinese is interested in US new releases tv show and lots of people like to watch blu rays here ,and also some people like to buy the authentic to enjoy their life,not all people like to buy the copies. |
| bananaappeal | 08-07-2014 08:23 PM |
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| joew8989 | 08-07-2014 10:34 PM |
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I was in mainland China last year, you can get Blu Ray DVDs in Chinese for about $3 a set. They are dubbed in Chinese, so they are no good for resale here in the USA. Very few people in mainland China speak English. What do Chinese people want? To come to the USA. They want to live like Americans. There is absolutely nothing we make here, except for food, that don't make better and cheaper. I did notice clothing was very expensive, My levis $44 us were $110 in Hong Kong. They were non existant in mainland China.
They love karaoke, and American music. If you have an idea related to karaoke, that you could sell them.
Of course they don't pay for intellectual property, so lyrics, or music is out.
My opinion of China was that they were like what I remember growing up in the 60's.
Factories everywhere, everyone was working, even the disabled. Everyone I met was either running a business, in the process of setting up a business.
Very little crime, virtually no police.
I left with no idea what we could sell them except natural resources.
What could you sell to Americans in the 50's and 60's? Maybe imported high end goods. |
| unkown5454 | 08-08-2014 12:48 AM |
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Of course stuff was expensive in HK. One of the wealthiest places on this planet... |
| Airun | 08-09-2014 08:29 AM |
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Wish I could sell my region 1 blu rays to a Chinese seller if there's a market. I have access to all the new releases such as Noah, Need for Speed, Divergent etc. But its hard to to turn that access into money online here in the US. Seller's sell so low that once you factor in ebay's fees you barely make a profit. If I was an authorized dealer on amazon I could make a decent profit but I have no idea how to get authorized. |
| RosieTosie | 09-20-2014 11:00 AM |
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Originally Posted by Futuremogul888
(Post 543616)
One of the biggest problems with doing that it that while shipping from China is cheap, Shipping to china from the West is expensive.
China's success in selling to the US is mainly because of their ability to undercut, even with the cost of shipping, the cost of western made goods. For obvious reasons the US would not be successful in the strategy.
I think what you are suggesting is that western sellers go the premium route in China. The problem is China already has what China wants. China is not newly rich. It has been stocking premium western goods for a long time.
| Yes and of course shipping from China is not just cheap it is state funded, where else in the world does that happen in a burgeoning and mass producing economy like China has! |
| Foreveryoung789 | 09-22-2014 06:04 PM |
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Originally Posted by RosieTosie
(Post 589788)
Yes and of course shipping from China is not just cheap it is state funded, where else in the world does that happen in a burgeoning and mass producing economy like China has!
| China's economy is getting better and better. If they continue such, nobody will stop them. |
| Hercules | 09-22-2014 06:38 PM |
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If you can get safe tracking to China there is always something to sell them. Something they don't have but want. They are like all humans, they want a new sensation.
Some thing different to feel and fantasize about. |
| unkown5454 | 09-23-2014 03:07 AM |
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Yea, it's called iPhone 6. There were millions of them standing in line to peddle them back to China for 100x what they paid for it. |
| just_smile | 09-23-2014 07:09 AM |
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I remember a while ago baby milk formula was in demand in china. Im pretty sure supermarkets over here.put a limit on the amount you could buy as people were shipping it to china for a tidy profit. |
| Foreveryoung789 | 09-23-2014 06:14 PM |
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Originally Posted by unkown5454
(Post 590508)
Yea, it's called iPhone 6. There were millions of them standing in line to peddle them back to China for 100x what they paid for it.
| Yea, they are crazy for iPhone 6. Right now that is one of the best business ideas. |
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What can you import to China and make money?
Well here are 3 ideas that if you do next week will work.
1. Buy genuine LV handbags from an LV store in france - this is the cheapest place to buy LV. You can pick up a speedy for around 650 gbp and the same bag fetches 1100 gbp in China.
2. Protein powder in China is around 2-3 times more expensive than in the UK. I bring mine back to China from the UK for my own personal use. A PT in the gym i use imports it from the US and sells is online in China and to clients in our gym.
3. High end cars. With extremely high import duties on super cars if you have a friend in the right place you could really clean up importing high value cars into China. Think bentleys etc.
As pointed out above the iPhone is always an easy item to re-import back to china for a quick profit. I was at the main apple store in hong kong on release day of the 6 and crowds of Chinese sellers were outside buying handsets from people who had preordered them before reselling them in mainland China. Seems market price at that time was at least twice of the UK price.
So, no excuses then, off you go..... |
| six5eight | 03-16-2015 08:31 AM |
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is somebody sell to China some high tech product,if this product good for selling make sure after several month later Chinese people will be copy it |
| pegasus | 12-21-2015 01:22 AM |
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:au:
AUSTRALIAN BRAND BABY Milk FORMULA is been in high demand for a long time. All the Chinese resellers are buying up everything and I mean EVERYTHING. The Supermarkets can not even keep up with the demand. Also Australian vitamin brands are selling out everywhere, some pharmacy don't even bother to sell to the public no more and now they just sell it directly to the Chinese resellers. I guess the consumers in China don't trust their own food products. Baby formula: Selling to China leaves little left for Australian babies |
| RockyBoy | 12-23-2015 04:34 AM |
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Originally Posted by teedon
(Post 543599)
Maybe people need to change the idea,not is import the goods from china,why not sell the goods to china?China have big big market for any nice products,chinese is get rich than ever and they are able to purchase more items now.
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That's good idea .People import and export worldwide |
| teedon | 10-03-2016 10:12 AM |
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A lot of chinese people get richer and they would like to invest money on their health,so that any health products would be a big welcome. |
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