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Default Selling the most high risk items on a stealth acct

So i was just wondering if it is even possible to sell a $15,000-$20,000 VERO item (such as a super expensive watch) on a stealth acct. before it gets suspended? I understand that this action will definitely get you shutdown I just don't know if there is a way to sell the item and get the funds out of PayPal before it it did. And if it is possible, how long would the account have to be aged, how much positive seller feedback on acct, etc. Basically the ideal situation to minimize getting shutdown within a week of posting it so you could get the money into you bank acct. Thanx
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hmm anythings possible but you would have to prepare for the fact that eventually sooner rather than later that PP would lock your funds for 180...
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Default Re: Selling the most high risk items on a stealth acct

If you are serious about doing this, then your best bet is to call eBay and tell them what you are doing and ask what the requirements are.

At this point I double any kind of account is immune as the risk is just very high.

Have you read the stealth guide yet btw?
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If you are serious about doing this, then your best bet is to call eBay and tell them what you are doing and ask what the requirements are.

At this point I double any kind of account is immune as the risk is just very high.

Have you read the stealth guide yet btw?
Alright that's what ill prolly do then is call ebay, and yes I have read the stealth guide.
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20K high risk? On EB? With PP covering your back?

Get ready to lose your product and your money both.

This one is going to hurt for a loooong time...
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you will get limited with that amount within 5 minutes after the buyer pays

me and a friend did this with a watch that sold for 3k. the account had feedback and was over a year old
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Makes me wonder how the sellers with a non-stealth acct that sell these type of things don't get banned left and right....or do they??
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I am sure they get limited if it is too expensive until paypal can verify their identity and sometimes proof of ownership
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Meanwhile they're just collecting a ton of interest on YOUR money for however long they please right?
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So i was just wondering if it is even possible to sell a $15,000-$20,000 VERO item (such as a super expensive watch) on a stealth acct. before it gets suspended? I understand that this action will definitely get you shutdown I just don't know if there is a way to sell the item and get the funds out of PayPal before it it did. And if it is possible, how long would the account have to be aged, how much positive seller feedback on acct, etc. Basically the ideal situation to minimize getting shutdown within a week of posting it so you could get the money into you bank acct. Thanx
I kind of doubt you will get this answer even from people with success - any method that exists (if there is one) would be uber precious to divulge...

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I've seen it done with very expensive coins or collectibles. Items priced at 10-20k on a new account with feedback less than 1 or 2. By "new account" I mean one created just a couple weeks prior. Those listings appeared to complate, and feedback left by the buyer, but that really don't mean much.

For these items (and the dollar amount) the problem will always be with PayPal, not so much eBay.
As others have said here, expect PayPal to limit you pretty much immediately once that first payment comes though on an account with little/no prior history.

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So i was just wondering if it is even possible to sell a $15,000-$20,000 VERO item (such as a super expensive watch) on a stealth acct. before it gets suspended? I understand that this action will definitely get you shutdown I just don't know if there is a way to sell the item and get the funds out of PayPal before it it did. And if it is possible, how long would the account have to be aged, how much positive seller feedback on acct, etc. Basically the ideal situation to minimize getting shutdown within a week of posting it so you could get the money into you bank acct. Thanx
If it is a totally legit item, for the love of god, go to a proper auction. Ebay isnt your highest money at those levels. There are private dealers with shops that would offer your better risk/reward in theory. Just food for thought.
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If it is a totally legit item, for the love of god, go to a proper auction. Ebay isnt your highest money at those levels. There are private dealers with shops that would offer your better risk/reward in theory. Just food for thought.
Exactly, the way this is phrased is fishy at best. Basically "I want to sell an ultra high risk 15-20K item and get the cash out fast without providing documents"

Lots of higher class auctions online that can independently sell and authenticate an item of that value for around the same fee ebay charges to do nothing
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Default Re: Selling the most high risk items on a stealth acct

With all the ⊗⊗⊗⊗ goods out there these days, who's the say your "authentic" item is so?

One thing is certain: PayPal has a LOT to potentially lose in such a deal if your item doesn't happen to be what you claim.

If there is a dispute/chargeback/case initiated by the customer, PayPal would be left holding the bag.

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Default Re: Selling the most high risk items on a stealth acct

This may works on eBay but not on PayPal, if you wants to try then give them call and ask them they will refer your case to backend department which I believe run risk assessment and more likely it will declined worth trying
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You can do this on a well established stealth account in good standing. I would not do this on a new stealth account.
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Why cash out so quick? It seems like a scam to me
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Wow. Never even occurred to me but yeah, this sure sounds fishy.

OP's in too much of a hurry by far. He sounds like he wants to sell and run.
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Default Re: Selling the most high risk items on a stealth acct

so what single transaction amount to paypal would start to get you limited? Over $500? Over $1k?
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Exactly, the way this is phrased is fishy at best. Basically "I want to sell an ultra high risk 15-20K item and get the cash out fast without providing documents"

Lots of higher class auctions online that can independently sell and authenticate an item of that value for around the same fee ebay charges to do nothing
Yeah, except that on top of fees for the seller, the buyer pays around 25% for the privilege of buying. Which means you'll get a price minus 25%, compared to a buyer that isn't going to have to pay that much.
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so what single transaction amount to paypal would start to get you limited? Over $500? Over $1k?
Many factors to consider - first sale on a new account, type of item, risk of sale, etc

$500+ on a first sale on a new account in general is pretty risky
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I've seen it done with very expensive coins or collectibles. Items priced at 10-20k on a new account with feedback less than 1 or 2. By "new account" I mean one created just a couple weeks prior. Those listings appeared to complate, and feedback left by the buyer, but that really don't mean much.
Could be a seller's second account that was linked to his first...

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If there is a dispute/chargeback/case initiated by the customer, PayPal would be left holding the bag.
In a case like this, I could totally see PayPal just shoving the buyer aside to look after their own. "Sorry, we could not determine with sufficient proof" blah blah blah and close the case against the buyer... no way they write off 20k to their books. I would say most credit card companies would make the customer jump through an inordinate amount of hoops before issuing a credit, too... they don't like to authorize chargebacks in that amount IMO
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