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Hi guys.
I'm a long term seller on ebay for 15+ years, many massive accounts with massive feedback.

8 years ago, ebay killed my accounts 1 by 1 and took me 6 month to learn the ways to get around it.
I then found the forums here and bought the stealth guide and it confirmed all what i knew which was great.

Now i can create a new ebay and paypal account fully verified with banks in few hours with ebay selling limits of £10,000 and 1000 items.

Lately, ive had alot of accounts get MC113 requesting info, serious / some concerns ect.. even a brand new account with the same setup on creation.

i found out it was more than likely down to entropay, so ive since not used it anymore. Gone back to tesco virtual cards and paypal created verified account.

However, my main question is.. i "know" ebay can't track accounts if created of the same PC with a NEW windows ID, but im sure they can....?

i bought a new laptop for £179.00 from argos and created a flawless account and its fine. Sold perfect..

I made an account, same method on a banned pc, with a new windows id, same method and banned MC113..

They must be able to ban MAC or something??

so my question, anyone know for a fact , can they track and link "computers" or "devices" if accounts are made on different windows ids, even if signed out correctly.


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Very interesting their was a thread posted in 2015 and one of the participants stated the below; (Please Note Their English Is Poor & I Suspect Their Based In China But Read What They Say)

six5eight 11:42 AM 03-29-2015
i did try for troll
i first i wanna explain what happened in 2007,that time i have one workstation and i have 2 ebay account,i am try open another one but ebay do not let me open it,that time i am doing part time computer rapering,one guy bring me a computer,i am install new operating system (XP) i am try open new account this customer computer and still it can but i did not complate,that time i have only screen i am shut down and install my computer and without turn off ADSL modem i am try open new ebay account on my computer but ebay again do not let me do it,i am a inquisitive people i am try figure out ebay how to know my computer that time i am format my harddrive install new system and try again open new ebay account but ebay again do not let me do it,but i can still open with my customer computer and i am also open it that point clear ebay take my mac id and do not let me open new account!

let go back to 2014,last year i am start using my friend ebay account he is set up on own computer seller account(add credid card linked paypal etc)and gave me account login information,i am reset my browser i am deleted all cookies i am login account and try doing some listing but ebay do not let me listing any item,and still give me number for call ebay customer service she say are you using how many device for connect ebay? xxxx mac id is your computer or someone using your account?she is confirm my mac id and numbers %100 same with my computer mac id

another thing also happened last year,in China we must using VPN which is let me connect google facebook youtube etc. one time i am forget turn off before login ebay account ebay still can not resirve any item or still can not listing like last time ask me call customer service again she told me do not using many device using only one device if you always do like this maybe we can not active your account,this is happened coz when i using VPN that time i am connect with different mac id,this is also happened several time for paypal

so guys i am sharing with you my experience,if you want you can believe if you want you can say rubbish etc. hope this informations useful for you guys

and one more information,i have before livezilla on my web site,who is connect my web page i can see time zone,operation system,language browser version,computer name,ip addres,screen resolution (like 1024x768),i believe if i can see with small code these thins ebay can see many thing
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Default Re: some help regarding tracking

Another participants states you MAC cannot be seen by Ebay or PayPal please read below;

bored164 08:01 AM 04-02-2015
hi,

just to help you out. ebay nor any other company can read the mac address of your NIC card. its just not possible.

ive been working as a network engineer for a while, and you can see from the books as well, like CCNA and CCNP books (specialised networking books) that there is no way you can. if there was it would be written in these books.
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Thanks guys thats interesting.
However the info about the impossible to read the MAC is incorrect.
I used to work for a company called GAMEPARK online and hosting game servers.
The admin tools allowed us to ban by MAC and serial number.
That was back in 2009 so i imagine there are much more advanced tools.

However, the user was required to download software and connect via a client.
Maybe thats why.
However, banning a PC would be very unfair because the new owner of a PC may get a banned PC when he has done nothing wrong.
Although, xbox can ban a gaming console by the MAC too making it useless.
So its all up in the air at the moment.

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The consensus seems to be ( to the best of my understanding ) that they can only obtain mac, serial number, etc. if you download one of their apps.

That's why the stealth guide clearly says never to download ANY software provided by EB, or presumably anyone else you may wish to use these techniques with.

This includes/included turbo lister, or any other such program.

Somebody will certainly correct me if I am wrong, but that's my understanding.
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