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Say i listed a replica and stated as such yet a buyer decides to purchase still?
 

The buyer is fully aware that it is a replica. However, after the buyer receives the item they file a claim to ebay stating that I sold them a replica and demand a refund. Who does ebay side with?

Re: Say i listed a replica and stated as such yet a buyer decides to purchase still?
 

LOL, Hold on......gimmie a sec while I control myself. I'm gonna go with....you already know the answer to that question.

Re: Say i listed a replica and stated as such yet a buyer decides to purchase still?
 

Yes, tell ebay that the item is counterfeit and that the buyer knew this when he bought it. :rolleyes:

Are you actually being serious?

Re: Say i listed a replica and stated as such yet a buyer decides to purchase still?
 

Yes, this is the new way.

They are after us giving them the get out of jail card.

‘Cos they wanna have their own way
:mad:

Re: Say i listed a replica and stated as such yet a buyer decides to purchase still?
 

So is the answer to my question: ebay will side with the buyer? Because at the same time if the buyer bought knowing the item is a replica, and tried claiming that the product being a replica is the reason for the claim.. isn't the buyer the one that is really trying to be deceitful? the buyer is abusing ebay policy. It is true the seller is breaking ebay policy, but isn't abusing policy and being deceitful a bigger issue than listing a replica and stating it as one? Because the whole reason for the policy over replicas is due to people who list COUNTERFEITS and claim the product is authentic. These sellers are purposely trying to deceive the buyer community and thus taking away revenue from original companies by selling identicals made elsewhere. But in this scenario the seller isn't selling a counterfeit, they are selling a replica. Similar to original but there are differences. So in this case, who wins? or would both seller and buyer face consequences? because ive seen many sellers list replicas, and many more getting their replicas sold. So i want to know the answer to whats worse, breaking policy or abusing policy? And before anyone claims that replicas ARE counterfeits please check out this article.

http://wwd.com/business-news/retail/...egal-10437109/

Re: Say i listed a replica and stated as such yet a buyer decides to purchase still?
 

The correct solution is to ban the seller and refund the buyer. Seller violating eBay policy will always trump every other issue.

Re: Say i listed a replica and stated as such yet a buyer decides to purchase still?
 

Thank you.

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I know a seller who's doing the exact thing you talked about. He states in his item's description:

"You're bidding on a non-original item. However, the quality is very good considering the price"

He has thousands of sales on that listing and few buyers leave feedback stating the item they got is ⊗⊗⊗⊗. I think most buyers only look at pictures and don't read any description (not in all categories though).


If it's a Vero item you want to list, I would advise you to abstain from that (It's not worth it).

Re: Say i listed a replica and stated as such yet a buyer decides to purchase still?
 

Well there you go, as long as you say something to the affect that the item isn't authentic makes it ok, there's your answer Card......

If people sell non-authentic items and they get caught they deserve it, for those who have not been caught then they are lucky so far.

Re: Say i listed a replica and stated as such yet a buyer decides to purchase still?
 

I made it clear to OP that I don't think it's a good idea to list these items.

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Thank you for this response.

I don't plan on listing a replica item, i was just curious as to what would happen if a buyer were to complain about it being a replica after it clearly states the product being sold in a replica. Who would ebay side with?

Do you know if your seller friend has any buyers complain even after he has listed? What usually happens? Or is it true what a previous member here stated "violating ebay policy trumps every other offense." Im also assuming the seller you know is listing non vero items?

Re: Say i listed a replica and stated as such yet a buyer decides to purchase still?
 

If a buyer complains even if it clearly states that it's a replica...eb will still side with buyer and could compromise your account

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This is cute ...and precious :)

Re: Say i listed a replica and stated as such yet a buyer decides to purchase still?
 

if you have not intention on doing this, why ask the hypothetical question? Are you looking to buy ⊗⊗⊗⊗ stuff an then open a claim? You will still be required to return the item....

Re: Say i listed a replica and stated as such yet a buyer decides to purchase still?
 

Lots of people sell replicas - for example, civil war buttons and trinkets are often reproduced, and as long as the buyer is clear they are reproductions, not true vintage items, selling them is fine.

HOWEVER...

A buyer who files a SNAD is going to win pretty much every single time, regardless of the reason.

People who sell items as 'BROKEN; NOT WORKING' often have to accept a return because the buyer says "doesn't work", and this is no different.

Re: Say i listed a replica and stated as such yet a buyer decides to purchase still?
 

Thank you everyone who has responded. This post has been answered.

Re: Say i listed a replica and stated as such yet a buyer decides to purchase still?
 

I suppose that's his way of saying 'shut up and go away, I'm tired of listening to you' :)

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I mean, replicas of older and or vintage and or etc items, isn't really the same thing as what most people would consider replicas on ebay. It's more along the lines of things that are currently produced. If you copy a watch, and call it a replica, well, that's against the law. You're essentially stealing from that company. My market is flooded with this crap. What ebay needs to do is allow a button to show only branded items. They sorta have that now, but if I click on the brand, it still shows mostly the ⊗⊗⊗⊗.

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That's a great idea, which is why it will never happen. :(

Re: Say i listed a replica and stated as such yet a buyer decides to purchase still?
 

Using Tag Heuer leather straps for example, even if you click on brand " tag heuer", it shows you results, even if the seller set the brand as "fits Tag Heuer" or "for TAG Heuer"

Which I think is absurd.

I'm not sure if being able to choose brand, with unbranded being an option, is a new thing or not?

Re: Say i listed a replica and stated as such yet a buyer decides to purchase still?
 

Exactly. The listing must clearly define what the item is.

Good response, dallis

:thumb:

Re: Say i listed a replica and stated as such yet a buyer decides to purchase still?
 

Since its against eBay rules to sell counterfeit products, you wont get away with it.

That's the ultimatum.

Re: Say i listed a replica and stated as such yet a buyer decides to purchase still?
 

I've had some "non-original" items that I wanted to sell, (I'm probably 45 years older than most of you guys on here, so my "non-original" item is probably different than most of yours, but just as frowned upon, being in a certain touchy category.

The way I got rid of them was to make it both obvious in the description and pricing it so low it was a bargain in itself. There are enough bargain hunters on Fleabay who by their very nature are thrilled with a good deal, and when they get one they are a zillion times less likely to try to use their dispute-opening power on one. I think more of the problems arise when the buyer isn't positive it's non-original or if the price is too close to the original.

That being said, that's how I moved the stuff I just wanted to sell or get rid of. And I knew when listing it that should any hick-ups arise, I'd be taking the hit and wouldn't win any dispute. It's not a category I'd like to sell in regularly, or to make a business out of. There truly are plenty of good ideas within the rules, it's usually just a lack of creativity or laziness that keeps people dealing in these categories full time.