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Yasav 01-26-2018 11:38 PM

Stuck with a product - Need advice
 
I have a fully legit product that I had hard time getting rid of. It's hugely popular but usually is being sold for $3-4 and I don't want to deal with economy shipping. I instead listed in lots of 3, 10,20,50, got many views but no buyers yet. Any advice? I am looking to liquidate it at a wholesale price.

nickopedia 01-26-2018 11:53 PM

Re: Stuck with a product - Need advice
 
You mention this product is "hugely popular", yet you have no buyers yet?
Seems it may be a pricing issue then?

Have you done any research on what has actualy sold, your market, etc?

Yasav 01-27-2018 12:09 AM

Re: Stuck with a product - Need advice
 
There's basically one seller whose listing shows 1800+ sold at around $4 and that's it. It's impossible to compete with someone like that, even though my pictures and prices are better.

Yasav 01-27-2018 12:09 AM

Re: Stuck with a product - Need advice
 
It's hugely popular in a way that I get tons and tons of views but no buys. And I still don't know how to deal with it. I spent $600 on the product, and it's painful. I wish I had a way to liquidate it even for a fraction of what i paid for it.

nickopedia 01-27-2018 12:24 AM

Re: Stuck with a product - Need advice
 
I understand your fustration. It's painful to see your competition selling a ton at a lower price and you can't move it as quickly.

Instead of concentrating on what the competition is doing, you can learn from it. You you have time for some product testing and research? Are you working with multiple accounts, or just one? Have you checked where you listings are in search (cassini) for placement ranking?

Yasav 01-27-2018 12:32 AM

Re: Stuck with a product - Need advice
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nickopedia (Post 897496)
I understand your fustration. It's painful to see your competition selling a ton at a lower price and you can't move it as quickly.

Instead of concentrating on what the competition is doing, you can learn from it. You you have time for some product testing and research? Are you working with multiple accounts, or just one? Have you checked where you listings are in search (cassini) for placement ranking?

I think you misunderstood. There is only 1 competitor and he is selling using a stock photo at a higher price than I had before. My listing has a professional photo which looks awesome and the item is 35% cheaper than his. It's actually pretty high in the ranks, it's just his comes up first and ppl just buy it because it seems cheap to them.

Any suggestions about possible liquidation? Should I message sellers on EB asking to buy my inventory at wholesale price?

bluegrass1 01-27-2018 01:23 AM

Re: Stuck with a product - Need advice
 
auction try that

Yasav 01-27-2018 02:07 AM

Re: Stuck with a product - Need advice
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bluegrass1 (Post 897499)
auction try that

good idea, i'll do just that

Shassar 01-27-2018 08:27 PM

Re: Stuck with a product - Need advice
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Yasav (Post 897503)
good idea, i'll do just that

If that does work try other marketplaces. I have things I sell on Amazon that don't do as well on eBay and vice versa

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Yasav 01-28-2018 02:11 AM

Re: Stuck with a product - Need advice
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Shassar (Post 897608)
If that does work try other marketplaces. I have things I sell on Amazon that don't do as well on eBay and vice versa

Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk

i can't work out a CC solution for amazon

Yasav 01-28-2018 02:12 AM

Re: Stuck with a product - Need advice
 
One of my auctions just ended, sold at 50% loss...it's total insanity.

SaiJin 01-28-2018 02:55 AM

Re: Stuck with a product - Need advice
 
sell in lots. like 10 pcs for $40

Yasav 01-28-2018 03:43 AM

Re: Stuck with a product - Need advice
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SaiJin (Post 897646)
sell in lots. like 10 pcs for $40

I've had that done weeks ago, and they all got tons of views but no bites.

bluegrass1 01-28-2018 11:58 AM

Re: Stuck with a product - Need advice
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Yasav (Post 897643)
One of my auctions just ended, sold at 50% loss...it's total insanity.

if the auction ended at a loss maybe there isnt such a demand now a days .. when i am at this point i sell entire inventory at pretty much what i paid plus the shipping / eb fees . just to get money back to put into something else ..

empirestate 01-28-2018 12:00 PM

Re: Stuck with a product - Need advice
 

BigCJ 01-28-2018 12:03 PM

Re: Stuck with a product - Need advice
 
Did you check the sales history of the other seller?
I see that the top seller of a 'hot' product at higher prices usually have a sales history for the last 6 months...sometimes with nothing recently sold

SaiJin 01-28-2018 12:07 PM

Re: Stuck with a product - Need advice
 
Just so you know, the entire market is currently down and it just started to recover a few days ago.

dallis 01-28-2018 12:48 PM

Re: Stuck with a product - Need advice
 
If you're below the going price, and have great photos, and the account is in great shape, and you even show up above your competitor in search no matter what you say it's either A: NOT A HOT ITEM. B: some or all of your statements are wrong.

If it's not a hot item get rid of the inventory at a price that will recoup your costs and move on to something that will sell.

Frankly, it's far more likely that most or all of the above are incorrect: it isn't a good price, the photos stink, the title and listing are poorly written, and it's not a hot item at all.

It's often hard to accept that other people think something sucks when we think it's great. You need a third party to evaluate your listing.

oompaloompa 01-28-2018 01:32 PM

Re: Stuck with a product - Need advice
 
just sell in a lot or a few lots (bundles)

quietstorm 01-28-2018 11:17 PM

Re: Stuck with a product - Need advice
 
Find another product to source that is remotely related to this product, but you have much more faith in your ability to sell it in a speedy and profitable manner. Once you have identified this item, bundle them. Create a new listing. You now have a unique listing that nobody is capable of comparing your pricing to and essentially, a gated listing unless another seller wants to go out and get the exact same two products and list against your ASIN. I highly doubt that will happen, though.

*One important factor to note: When bundling items, Amazon policy is that there are three UPCs -- Product 1 | Product 2 | The bundle itself. Do not ever waste a UPC on a bundle. If you do choose to bundle, go to https://sellercentral.amazon.com/gtinx & request an excemption. They are not difficult to acquire.

Yasav 01-29-2018 01:58 AM

Re: Stuck with a product - Need advice
 
I am taking this product off EB - it's pointless. The market became too saturated on EB, while on AMZN it still a novelty.

Can someone tell me how do I get through the credit card requirement for amazon? I tried my debit but it didn't work.

JackMoney 01-29-2018 01:14 PM

Re: Stuck with a product - Need advice
 
Your debit card should really work, did you have funds for the auth charge?

Yasav 01-29-2018 02:43 PM

Re: Stuck with a product - Need advice
 
I have WF debit card and it didn't go through. I called amazon and they said I need a credit card, not a debit card.

dallis 01-29-2018 03:09 PM

Re: Stuck with a product - Need advice
 
Get and use a prepaid card.

Yasav 01-29-2018 04:46 PM

Re: Stuck with a product - Need advice
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dallis (Post 897882)
Get and use a prepaid card.

Like a visa vanilla gift card?

dallis 01-29-2018 06:49 PM

Re: Stuck with a product - Need advice
 
Last I heard they still work, but there are lots of different brands if you don't like that one, wal-mart sells these cards too and a lot of the grocery stores and they all work fine for me, I've used them many times.

Just don't get the kind where you have to put in your SSN. They sell that kind at the dollar stores.

vidim 01-30-2018 11:37 PM

Re: Stuck with a product - Need advice
 
You say that he comes up before you. I guess the product is so cheap that it attracts a clientele that does not filter on "lowest price".

I suggest you try to tweak it so you beat him on best match.
Is he top rated and you are not?
Is he offering a higher quality of shipping with same day handling time?
Maybe buy some social signals and inbound links to your listing?
Does he have 3+ pics while you have 1-2?
Is he selling on GTC with multiple units, while you relist?
Tweak these things so you beat him on best match.

Also do some split testing using the stock photo. You might overestimate your own photo's appeal.

SaiJin 02-01-2018 12:10 PM

Re: Stuck with a product - Need advice
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by quietstorm (Post 897768)
Find another product to source that is remotely related to this product, but you have much more faith in your ability to sell it in a speedy and profitable manner. Once you have identified this item, bundle them. Create a new listing. You now have a unique listing that nobody is capable of comparing your pricing to and essentially, a gated listing unless another seller wants to go out and get the exact same two products and list against your ASIN. I highly doubt that will happen, though.

*One important factor to note: When bundling items, Amazon policy is that there are three UPCs -- Product 1 | Product 2 | The bundle itself. Do not ever waste a UPC on a bundle. If you do choose to bundle, go to https://sellercentral.amazon.com/gtinx & request an excemption. They are not difficult to acquire.


Hmmm... I actually like this. It'll take more work due to the variety, but this could help.

Regardless though , the market really is down. It's clearance time and even the top sellers of a category is only selling at 1% of their initial day to day sales.

HurricaneHuntr 02-02-2018 09:53 AM

Re: Stuck with a product - Need advice
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SaiJin (Post 898600)
Hmmm... I actually like this. It'll take more work due to the variety, but this could help.

Regardless though , the market really is down. It's clearance time and even the top sellers of a category is only selling at 1% of their initial day to day sales.

Should pick up soon for valentines.

dallis 02-02-2018 08:12 PM

Re: Stuck with a product - Need advice
 
Today's the 2nd. Everybody who is really serious has already bought for Valentine's Day, the only people left are the ones who'll scream bloody murder if it isn't there overnight.

In a few days it'll be time to start Valentine clearance markdowns so you don't get stuck with a bunch of dead inventory you have to store for a year then sell at a steeper discount because it's dated and no longer fresh.

You should already be working on the next holiday if holiday sales are your thing, and warming up for the one after that.

GreenBean 02-02-2018 08:53 PM

Re: Stuck with a product - Need advice
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Yasav (Post 897648)
I've had that done weeks ago, and they all got tons of views but no bites.

Reach out to your competitor. Offer him a good deal for the items.

:bird:

Yasav 02-02-2018 11:12 PM

Re: Stuck with a product - Need advice
 
There are 2 different products from the same "opera". All related to crypto-currencies, which was shown as a top-hot category in the Terapeak.

1st product

Market has been taken over by Chinese sellers, offering the product at $1. The previous competitor who sold @ $3.8 has vanished. I was able to liquidate about 50% of my stock of this item for around 80 cents on a dollar.

2nd item

Only 1 competitor on EB and same on amazon. Very weak selling item on EB, but relatively hot on amazon; but the problem is that the listing already exists on amazon so idk how can I intervene into the market. The software shows $1200/month sales on amazon for this item. I was only able to sell 2 units on EB in 3 weeks. Totally stuck with this one.

Both products look and feel AMAZING, customers are super happy when they receive it, they just don't look for them, I guess.

supplies 02-03-2018 09:37 PM

Re: Stuck with a product - Need advice
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Yasav (Post 897648)
I've had that done weeks ago, and they all got tons of views but no bites.

Maybe that other seller sold all those over 2 years when it had greater demand?

Yasav 02-03-2018 11:17 PM

Re: Stuck with a product - Need advice
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by supplies (Post 899210)
Maybe that other seller sold all those over 2 years when it had greater demand?

No, the product has been around for a few months or so. As I said before, it's related to crypto-currencies, specifically bitcoin.

Yasav 02-18-2018 04:24 PM

Re: Stuck with a product - Need advice
 
Can someone with Amazon experience PM me? I don't know what's the best and cheapest way to add UPC to my products

GreenBean 02-18-2018 04:49 PM

Re: Stuck with a product - Need advice
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Yasav (Post 897642)
i can't work out a CC solution for amazon

Is the product being sold on smazon or ebay?

:spy:

Yasav 02-18-2018 05:53 PM

Re: Stuck with a product - Need advice
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenBean (Post 902253)
Is the product being sold on smazon or ebay?

:spy:

On both. It's sort of a decent selling product on AMZN but completely dead on EB.

Yasav 02-18-2018 05:57 PM

Re: Stuck with a product - Need advice
 
The thing about that product is that it was a bubble that bursted. When I found the product and did the math, I was beyond thrilled, as I thought I found a fully legit product with huge margins and crazy demand. It costs 25 cents in China and it was being sold at $25-30 for around one month; and now you can't even sell it for $3. I was just unlucky, as I only got the product when the bubble already bursted. And now I am stuck.

dallis 02-18-2018 08:46 PM

Re: Stuck with a product - Need advice
 
That's the way it often works. By the time you realize it's hot and get on board the game is already wrapping up.

You have to be ahead of the wave and get out while it's still hot.

If I knew had to do that I'd be a rich man. :)

Yasav 02-18-2018 11:14 PM

Re: Stuck with a product - Need advice
 
For those who are curious; it's this item

https://www.amazon.com/Bitcoin-Coin-...ds=bitcoin+box (WARNING AMAZON LINK)

And I also have around 150 coins of bitcoin souvenir.

Ha I feel totally stuck with those. I think the only way to sell would be at a extremely low price via economy shipping.

Anyone has any ideas how economy works? I did try it twice but for some reason it was counted as a defect as there's no tracking.


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