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shoeiside 03-09-2018 04:55 AM

Selling a $600 item with a new stealth account
 
I would like to know what’s the risk in selling a $600 branded item that I’m trying to get rid of. I wan to sell it on a brand new stealth account. Do I risk getting my account deleted? I suppose new sellers come on eBay all the time trying to sell their expensive valuables so I don’t see why they should ban me for suspicion of any sort. Especially if someone buys it and nothing goes wrong after 21 days. I need to hear someone else’s take on this. Please help.

slokor 03-09-2018 05:39 AM

Re: Selling a $600 item with a new stealth account
 
You will more than likely get the account suspended. Dont even bother trying to sell such an item without getting established as a seller first.

rsot 03-09-2018 08:25 AM

Re: Selling a $600 item with a new stealth account
 
Welcome to the forums - all the best as you master ghost :thumb:

Too dangerous to sell a brand new account - build reputation

dallis 03-09-2018 08:26 AM

Re: Selling a $600 item with a new stealth account
 
I think it's a risky move.

Plus, predator buyers look for newbies they can steal from because they don't have a lot of experience, and a new account has a big bullseye on it from their viewpoint.

shoeiside 03-09-2018 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slokor (Post 906294)
You will more than likely get the account suspended. Dont even bother trying to sell such an item without getting established as a seller first.

Do you think I can get away with one sale before my account get suspended?

RetroRedneck 03-09-2018 09:04 AM

Re: Selling a $600 item with a new stealth account
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shoeiside (Post 906314)
Do you think I can get away with one sale before my account get suspended?

Maybe look into cash on collection only, you might get away with it. But I'd rather use Bumtree or FaceAche Marketplace.

shoeiside 03-09-2018 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 906309)
Welcome to the forums - all the best as you master ghost :thumb:

Too dangerous to sell a brand new account - build reputation

I posted a listing about 4-5 hours ago. And it’s still up. I won’t sell too anyone with low feedback. What I’m saying is I doubt anything will happen if I just sell it ONCE ship it out, no issues. Let the account breathe for a few months after that.

nerdydood 03-09-2018 10:33 AM

Re: Selling a $600 item with a new stealth account
 
That's some risky stuff. Slow is the key

phaz0rz 03-09-2018 10:36 AM

Re: Selling a $600 item with a new stealth account
 
Even if you're lucky enough to not have any issues on the eBay side, there's a high probability of Paypal limiting your account with an ID/invoice request if the very first item you sell is a $600 branded item. It's almost certain to happen in this case.

If this is your real verifiable account then by all means sell the item. I don't recommend doing this on a stealth account though.

shoeiside 03-09-2018 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 906327)
Even if you're lucky enough to not have any issues on the eBay side, there's a high probability of Paypal limiting your account with an ID/invoice request if the very first item you sell is a $600 branded item. It's almost certain to happen in this case.

If this is your real verifiable account then by all means sell the item. I don't recommend doing this on a stealth account though.

I will keep you guys posted on the results, I don’t mind experimenting. I also forgot to mention that this account is also aged, I just never sold on it before. I opened that account in August 2017 and I just let it sit there. Would that make a difference?

phaz0rz 03-09-2018 02:10 PM

Re: Selling a $600 item with a new stealth account
 
No, that doesn't make much difference. The history they care about is your selling history.

shoeiside 03-09-2018 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 906385)
No, that doesn't make much difference. The history they care about is your selling history.

Ok last thing I wanted to mention. I think PayPal and EBay Canada is more lenient than eBay/PayPal USA. I’ve tried both and based on my experience you get limited way quicker when you use a USA PayPal account and there’s way more restrictions. Would you guys say this is true?

phaz0rz 03-09-2018 02:43 PM

Re: Selling a $600 item with a new stealth account
 
I'd agree with that to an extent.

shoeiside 03-09-2018 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dallis (Post 906387)
I won’t sell too anyone with low feedback

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! Obviously a newbie.

You have no option to filter by feedback.

Your 'aged' account with no activity is meaningless. It's only 'aged' if it's been successfully selling. As a matter of fact, no activity for 6 months, then 'bang' suddenly a $600 listing is begging for trouble.

I doubt anything will happen if I just sell it ONCE ship it out


Seriously? Hang tight to that hope, cause it's all you've got.

PP's going to hold that money, and if they don't like what you're selling, you're going to lose the payment and your item both.

You should reconsider this course of action while you can.

If anyone with low feedback buys from me I will refund them. I know about the chargeback scam. People use stolen credit cards and PayPals left and right that’s just the reality. How you last is by refunding these types of payments. I’m a lot of things but newbie is not one of them. You had to learn on this forum, I’ve learned all this on my own without joining the forum so humble yourself brother.

SaiJin 03-09-2018 02:53 PM

Re: Selling a $600 item with a new stealth account
 
Well, just make sure that all your accounts are fully verified and the info are all accurate. So if they want to confirm it's you, you have your documents ready to give to them.

And since I don't know what kind of brand it is, if it's really a risky one, no matter what you'll get a verification request.

SaiJin 03-09-2018 02:57 PM

Re: Selling a $600 item with a new stealth account
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shoeiside (Post 906392)
If anyone with low feedback buys from me I will refund them. I know about the chargeback scam. People use stolen credit cards and PayPals left and right that’s just the reality. How you last is by refunding these types of payments. I’m a lot of things but newbie is not one of them. You had to learn on this forum, I’ve learned all this on my own without joining the forum so humble yourself brother.


With your kind of attitude, you'll go a long way.
So keep asking questions and absorb the info from us in here.

If you have the chance, get the stealth guide also. It'll teach you a lot.

shoeiside 03-09-2018 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SaiJin (Post 906394)
With your kind of attitude, you'll go a long way.
So keep asking questions and absorb the info from us in here.

If you have the chance, get the stealth guide also. It'll teach you a lot.

Thanks for your tips brother. I appreciate it!

dallis 03-09-2018 04:08 PM

Re: Selling a $600 item with a new stealth account
 
With your kind of attitude, you'll go a long way.

Pretty sure that wasn't a compliment. I believe it's called 'sarcasm'.

If anyone with low feedback buys from me I will refund them.

If you cancel a transaction and refund EB will penalize you. I think the limit on that is 2X per year before you're done. They're fed up with that.

You really have absolutely no clue what you're doing.

The learning curve on this one is really going to be painful.

Good luck!

shoeiside 03-09-2018 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dallis (Post 906408)
With your kind of attitude, you'll go a long way.

Pretty sure that wasn't a compliment. I believe it's called 'sarcasm'.

If anyone with low feedback buys from me I will refund them.

If you cancel a transaction and refund EB will penalize you. I think the limit on that is 2X per year before you're done. They're fed up with that.

You really have absolutely no clue what you're doing.

The learning curve on this one is really going to be painful.

Good luck!

First of all. When you have over 20 accounts aging and selling who cares if you lose one. I’ll take my chances, whether I have as much knowledge as you or not is not the debate. I’m just asking, can someone get away with breaking a few rules that are listed on this forum. You probably didn’t even know PayPal Canada was more lenient than the USA PayPal before I mentioned it. I’m asking these questions because I’ve noticed on this forum people always say you can’t do this or that. What are the exceptions though? How come sometimes I’m able to get away with it but sometimes I’m not. I’ll let you answer these questions since you seem to know EVERYTHING in the goddamn world. I’ve given plenty of refunds by the way, you have no friggen idea what you’re talking about. Factless statements are worthless! You might as well have just wrote this instead anshsisbskanansjsnsbb. That’s the same as what you just wrote.

yankee 03-09-2018 05:01 PM

Re: Selling a $600 item with a new stealth account
 
I did not read everyone above and I am positive they offered great advice as to not do it.

I am going to add that is really depends on the item and brand. I sell archery equipment and do not have any issues selling a brand new, top of the line $1000+ bow for the first transaction. I dont do this anymore because I no longer sell such items(no money in it)

When I sold Shark Vacuums, 4th one gets a paypal suspension. Sometimes the 3rd one and they are not nearly as expensive.

shoeiside 03-09-2018 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yankee (Post 906420)
I did not read everyone above and I am positive they offered great advice as to not do it.

I am going to add that is really depends on the item and brand. I sell archery equipment and do not have any issues selling a brand new, top of the line $1000+ bow for the first transaction. I dont do this anymore because I no longer sell such items(no money in it)

When I sold Shark Vacuums, 4th one gets a paypal suspension. Sometimes the 3rd one and they are not nearly as expensive.

Ok you just mentioned the 4th item got you suspended meaning you were able to sell 4 of them! What I’m trying to tell everyone on this thread is that I just want to sell ONE item for $599. It’s branded. Pretty popular brand at that. But I see plenty of people selling them. Admittedly, I assume they are mostly astablished sellers. I’m using a Canadian PayPal/EBay combo so what are my chances? Talk about your experiences folks! Need more replies!

yankee 03-09-2018 05:14 PM

Re: Selling a $600 item with a new stealth account
 
lets say it is a gaming console or something like that. You almost certainly will get a soft suspension asking for at least a photo ID and receipt or invoices for the item.

yankee 03-09-2018 05:16 PM

Re: Selling a $600 item with a new stealth account
 
If it is a strong VERO brand, they might take it down in a day or two.

Yasav 03-09-2018 05:48 PM

Re: Selling a $600 item with a new stealth account
 
Sold a $600 item about a year ago on my brand-new account (macbook) with zero feedback. Never had any issues, an upstanding guy with 400+ feedbacks bought from me, shipped it to him via 2 day air-mail, then got my money from PP 3 days after.

The only thing is that I've been receiving tons of scams via messages to ship the item and someone will come and pay me via a check; some foreign shipping scam; etc.

yankee 03-09-2018 05:51 PM

Re: Selling a $600 item with a new stealth account
 
You can list the item with 3 day shipping. Sell it and wait two days to see if any paypal issues come up. Then if no problems, ship the item. In my experience, they limit within one day of unusual activity.

GreenBean 03-09-2018 05:56 PM

Re: Selling a $600 item with a new stealth account
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 906309)
Welcome to the forums - all the best as you master ghost :thumb:

Too dangerous to sell a brand new account - build reputation

Aw,aw,aw, you are on a roll today.

The OP posted in the ebay section not amazon.

But better than that he joined on 07/17/2017 and posted that day.

So why do you s-ew this

:violin:

GreenBean 03-09-2018 06:00 PM

Re: Selling a $600 item with a new stealth account
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yankee (Post 906429)
You can list the item with 3 day shipping. Sell it and wait two days to see if any paypal issues come up. Then if no problems, ship the item. In my experience, they limit within one day of unusual activity.

He has listed already though.


:peace:

greakf3eak 03-10-2018 05:25 AM

Re: Selling a $600 item with a new stealth account
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shoeiside (Post 906419)
First of all. When you have over 20 accounts aging and selling who cares if you lose one. I’ll take my chances, whether I have as much knowledge as you or not is not the debate. I’m just asking, can someone get away with breaking a few rules that are listed on this forum. You probably didn’t even know PayPal Canada was more lenient than the USA PayPal before I mentioned it. I’m asking these questions because I’ve noticed on this forum people always say you can’t do this or that. What are the exceptions though? How come sometimes I’m able to get away with it but sometimes I’m not. I’ll let you answer these questions since you seem to know EVERYTHING in the goddamn world. I’ve given plenty of refunds by the way, you have no friggen idea what you’re talking about. Factless statements are worthless! You might as well have just wrote this instead anshsisbskanansjsnsbb. That’s the same as what you just wrote.

I can confirm that i ve give plenty of refunds .
The key is a contact before refund the buyer explaining the reason.
Be polite and kind.
Then refund with "buyer asked to cancel" excuse ..
You can go away without issues if buyer did not bothered about cancellation ...

TheRealist 03-10-2018 06:49 PM

Re: Selling a $600 item with a new stealth account
 
I sell pretty expensive items ranging from : Bose Headphones ($350), $800 HardDrives 850 PRO 2TB, and up to 2500(Alienware gaming laptops). My sales for one of my accounts in last 31 days is 9k. (Account is Aged 1 year)
Based on my experience I've been limited 1ce through PayPal, not for the items I sell but for moving the money out too rapidly.
But OP, if you are going for longevity that isn't the ideal move. Especially on your first transaction. You've had it since August 2017? Dude there's a lot of potential in that account, Sell low end **** then move up...cook that account brother nice and slow, and eventually the floodgates of PayPal+eBay will open....

dallis 03-10-2018 08:35 PM

Re: Selling a $600 item with a new stealth account
 
Too late.

He's already listed it, he's going to cancel any purchases and refund the money as many times as it takes until he finds a high feedback buyer he's comfortable with, and he's decided he's far too smart to listen to any advice from anyone here.

wiseman_ae 03-11-2018 04:09 AM

Re: Selling a $600 item with a new stealth account
 
I have sold 400 usd worth of cheap VeRO software, I sold about 20 of them to my own UK paypal account, what I wanted to know if I connect several ebay account to same PayPal and sen only 10/20 item from each account and let it down for a while will that be an issue to the paypal account all those are connected?

Thanks

greakf3eak 03-11-2018 05:17 AM

Re: Selling a $600 item with a new stealth account
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wiseman_ae (Post 906711)
I have sold 400 usd worth of cheap VeRO software, I sold about 20 of them to my own UK paypal account, what I wanted to know if I connect several ebay account to same PayPal and sen only 10/20 item from each account and let it down for a while will that be an issue to the paypal account all those are connected?

Thanks

Under my personal experience you can connect to different ebay accounts same ppl account for accepting payments .
But you mentioned that you re selling vero digital items.
So pay attention that if you get a limitation to one of them then all rest will be fall down soon or later i guess .

wiseman_ae 03-11-2018 05:55 AM

Re: Selling a $600 item with a new stealth account
 
We will add items in ebay and amazon, just for advertisement purposes.
Do I have to add paypal account to sell items in ebay?

Thanks

greakf3eak 03-11-2018 06:26 AM

Re: Selling a $600 item with a new stealth account
 
Definitelly ,

gamerguy 03-15-2018 05:23 PM

Re: Selling a $600 item with a new stealth account
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shoeiside (Post 906392)
If anyone with low feedback buys from me I will refund them. I know about the chargeback scam. People use stolen credit cards and PayPals left and right that’s just the reality. How you last is by refunding these types of payments. I’m a lot of things but newbie is not one of them. You had to learn on this forum, I’ve learned all this on my own without joining the forum so humble yourself brother.

There is a huge risk with refunding buyers with low feedbacks. They can easily leave you negative feedback. It's hard to gauge when someone with low fb is a real buyer or some kid or teenager looking to steal from you.

ebaystealth1974 03-15-2018 05:33 PM

Re: Selling a $600 item with a new stealth account
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gamerguy (Post 907876)
There is a huge risk with refunding buyers with low feedbacks. They can easily leave you negative feedback. It's hard to gauge when someone with low fb is a real buyer or some kid or teenager looking to steal from you.

I wish I could block everyone below a certain amount of feedbacks. Whatever number I chose.

GreenBean 03-15-2018 06:24 PM

Re: Selling a $600 item with a new stealth account
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ebaystealth1974 (Post 907877)
I wish I could block everyone below a certain amount of feedbacks. Whatever number I chose.

What other options do you have in place to minimize grief?

What about instant paypal needed?

:coffee:

dallis 03-15-2018 08:48 PM

Re: Selling a $600 item with a new stealth account
 
I wish I could block everyone below a certain amount of feedbacks. Whatever number I chose.

Dream on. I've often wished it too. But it's never going to happen.
Under my personal experience you can connect to different ebay accounts same ppl account for accepting payments .

Lots of different EB's on one PP? Sure, you can do it. BUT... This is easily the stupidest, worst, saddest, most dangerous, most ill-considered advice I've heard here in like... months. And that covers a lot of turf.

I cannot possibly be forceful enough in discouraging anyone with anyone with even the tiniest amount of sense from doing this.

Hercules 03-15-2018 09:12 PM

Re: Selling a $600 item with a new stealth account
 
Selling branded items is a dead end. Most of the time you get flagged out or a competitor just replenished his stock on your dime along with reporting you over and over again so you can't sell any more. Only the pros get away with it after years of ups and downs...just forget it. You can sell lots of 'safe' items without fear, you just have to work and list until your fingers bleed.
Just by having thousands of listings you should sell very well.

ebaystealth1974 03-15-2018 09:13 PM

Re: Selling a $600 item with a new stealth account
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dallis (Post 907903)
Dream on. I've often wished it too. But it's never going to happen.

No sh*t?! lol


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