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| DomRau | 04-02-2018 04:51 AM |
My method for selling VERO items on eBay
Hello everyone. I am a seller on ebay for 5 years. During these years I have experienced so much.. Ebay ,,sharks" will support me that 5 years ago the selling on eBay was much easier.. Less MC113, less paypal limittations, easier to resolve the limittations.
However, the good times are gone. But we still want the money, right? We want the money so bad.. And I will tell you the truth - everything's possible even now!
I want to tell you my story in a short way.
So, I am selling the most strict items on eBay and I am doing five figures in a month. I work 4-5 hours in a day only for eBay business (I have other businesses too).
I want to give you the tips which helps me to sell VERO items.
1. Diversity
Diversification is the key to success. I'm collecting just 500 EUR/month with one paypal and ebay account. After the money is withdrawn from PayPal, I am waiting 30 days to start selling with this account again.
2. MANY EBAY ACCOUNTS
If you want to diversify your sales, you must have MANY ebay stealth accounts. It takes time, it requires hard work, but it really pays off.
3. How I create a stealth account?
Everything is told in eBay stealth ebook which you can buy from this forum, but I will tell you a few additional steps.
1. Once the account is created, I keep it for 30 days.
2. During these days I am doing browsing history.
3. After 30 days I add vcc to eBay and PayPal (I am working with eBay.de, so ebay account requires vcc).
4. After that, I list the first item (NO HIGH RISK!!!). Once it's sold, I am waiting for ~5 days and then I list more items (NO HIGH RISK) with buy it now. With these items I am making feedbacks. There are plenty good items for feedbacks. I am buying everything from aliexpress and then sell it on ebay.
5. Once the ~30 items are sold, I am forgetting this account and getting back after 1 month and then I list one high risk item with auction.
6. After the auction is ended, I am waiting for ~5 days and then I list more(5-7) HIGH RISK items with buy it now.
7. Once these items are sold, I am turning from Personal eBay account to Business eBay account and then: LET'S GET THIS PARTY STARTED
Do you have any questions? Please feel free to ask me :) |
| greakf3eak | 04-02-2018 05:09 AM |
Re: My method for selling VERO items on eBay
Different versions of "party" can be caused to potential sellers by selling VERO items ....
Welcome on board , anyway
:) |
Re: My method for selling VERO items on eBay
Quote:
Originally Posted by DomRau
(Post 911386)
Hello everyone. I am a seller on ebay for 5 years. During these years I have experienced so much.. Ebay ,,sharks" will support me that 5 years ago the selling on eBay was much easier.. Less MC113, less paypal limittations, easier to resolve the limittations.
However, the good times are gone. But we still want the money, right? We want the money so bad.. And I will tell you the truth - everything's possible even now!
I want to tell you my story in a short way.
So, I am selling the most strict items on eBay and I am doing five figures in a month. I work 4-5 hours in a day only for eBay business (I have other businesses too).
I want to give you the tips which helps me to sell VERO items.
1. Diversity
Diversification is the key to success. I'm collecting just 500 EUR/month with one paypal and ebay account. After the money is withdrawn from PayPal, I am waiting 30 days to start selling with this account again.
2. MANY EBAY ACCOUNTS
If you want to diversify your sales, you must have MANY ebay stealth accounts. It takes time, it requires hard work, but it really pays off.
3. How I create a stealth account?
Everything is told in eBay stealth ebook which you can buy from this forum, but I will tell you a few additional steps.
1. Once the account is created, I keep it for 30 days.
2. During these days I am doing browsing history.
3. After 30 days I add vcc to eBay and PayPal (I am working with eBay.de, so ebay account requires vcc).
4. After that, I list the first item (NO HIGH RISK!!!). Once it's sold, I am waiting for ~5 days and then I list more items (NO HIGH RISK) with buy it now. With these items I am making feedbacks. There are plenty good items for feedbacks. I am buying everything from aliexpress and then sell it on ebay.
5. Once the ~30 items are sold, I am forgetting this account and getting back after 1 month and then I list one high risk item with auction.
6. After the auction is ended, I am waiting for ~5 days and then I list more(5-7) HIGH RISK items with buy it now.
7. Once these items are sold, I am turning from Personal eBay account to Business eBay account and then: LET'S GET THIS PARTY STARTED
Do you have any questions? Please feel free to ask me :)
| Great contribution thanks. I have been having many MC113 with Germany, more so than other countries I have been too rash with new accounts |
| DomRau | 04-02-2018 06:01 AM |
Re: My method for selling VERO items on eBay
Yeah, you must do everything very slowly with de accounts :) |
| DomRau | 04-02-2018 08:34 AM |
Re: My method for selling VERO items on eBay
Quote:
Originally Posted by greakf3eak
(Post 911389)
Different versions of "party" can be caused to potential sellers by selling VERO items ....
Welcome on board , anyway
:)
| What do you mean? :) |
| greakf3eak | 04-02-2018 08:39 AM |
Re: My method for selling VERO items on eBay
It can be a good party with high sales volume or a bad party with paypal limitations etc.
Selling vero , otc etc items is always a risk . |
| phaz0rz | 04-02-2018 08:52 AM |
Re: My method for selling VERO items on eBay
Quote:
Originally Posted by greakf3eak
(Post 911436)
a bad party with paypal limitations etc.
| Hah. I think I would have to graciously decline my invitation to that particular party. :juggle: |
| DomRau | 04-02-2018 09:36 AM |
Re: My method for selling VERO items on eBay
Quote:
Originally Posted by greakf3eak
(Post 911436)
It can be a good party with high sales volume or a bad party with paypal limitations etc.
Selling vero , otc etc items is always a risk .
| Yes, of course :)
There is always a risk where big money is : -)
What is the difference between rich and poor man? I can bet you know.. |
Re: My method for selling VERO items on eBay
Nice contribution nonetheless OP - experience is always valuable |
| DomRau | 04-02-2018 10:18 AM |
Re: My method for selling VERO items on eBay
Yes.. I have a big experience in the eBay world and I wanted to share it :) |
| walkingupwards | 04-02-2018 10:32 AM |
Re: My method for selling VERO items on eBay
With all due respect, but your way is pure illusion. Ebay doesn't take down listings themselves nor they listen to customer complaints regarding authenticity of sold products. They act upon requests from IP rights owners. According to your methodology a new account will not survive the web scrawler deployed by company specializing in catching infringing listings (e.g: Markmonitor) and an old account would, from my experience that is not true at all.
Markmonitor will always look for the listings that pose the biggest risk to their customer, that is, the listings that appear high in search results and who sell the most.
I see new accounts popping up everyday and they list their Vero items right away, most of them survive the first few months without any problem. Once they rank high in search results ---> Boom, they are taken down. Go ahead and search for Vero items, scroll to remote pages in search results and you will see hundreds of listings that have not been touched by rights owners at all and the reason is simple, the rist they post is minimal in comparison to others.
The only way to survive in the Vero world is by finding away to deceive the bot looking for your listing. You can do that by either excluding the brand name from your title or by using low quality photos that won't match up with the bot's database of imagery.
Making intervals between your listings or waiting a few days or weeks before you list your first Vero item doesn't really make a difference IMHO.
At the end you're right, Vero items have a lot of potential behind them. I know a UK based seller who's selling anywhere between 500-800 items per day (that's from one listing) and he's been doing it for over a year, lucky him! |
| DomRau | 04-02-2018 12:43 PM |
Re: My method for selling VERO items on eBay
Dear, it is not a pure illusion. Everything what I said is from my experience. I have tried everything and lost many accounts until I've found what really works.
If you don't want to get instant MC999 or MC113, you must build trust with eBay. You must act like a human on your stealth accounts, you must make browsing history, sales/buy history, etc. You must be like a man which wants to sell his OWN branded (High-Risk / Vero) item. Once you are this man, you can get started.
However, this is true what you said. Your account can be banned or you can be asked to verify your account by eBay if you have been reported by VERO or users cause of counterfeit. But till this, it's much better to sell VERO items with aged accounts which have history. |
| walkingupwards | 04-02-2018 12:45 PM |
Re: My method for selling VERO items on eBay
@DomRau
If you don't mind me asking, what are the selling limits you are getting upon creating an account with Ebay.de? |
Re: My method for selling VERO items on eBay
Quote:
Originally Posted by walkingupwards
(Post 911500)
@DomRau
If you don't mind me asking, what are the selling limits you are getting upon creating an account with Ebay.de?
| Standard is 500/5000 |
| DomRau | 04-02-2018 12:58 PM |
Re: My method for selling VERO items on eBay
Yes, 500/5000, but usually it's being increased automatically once you reached the monthly limits :) |
Re: My method for selling VERO items on eBay
Quote:
Originally Posted by DomRau
(Post 911506)
Yes, 500/5000, but usually it's being increased automatically once you reached the monthly limits :)
| Way better than UK hehe |
| femalero | 04-02-2018 05:18 PM |
Re: My method for selling VERO items on eBay
Sveikas! Malonu pamatyti Lietuvi šiam forume.
Norėčiau pakalbėti su tavim truputi apie ebay, gal turi koki skype ar kažkur kitur kur galėtumem susirašyti? |
| 13obby | 04-02-2018 07:42 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by femalero
(Post 911550)
Sveikas! Malonu pamatyti Lietuvi šiam forume.
Norėčiau pakalbėti su tavim truputi apie ebay, gal turi koki skype ar kažkur kitur kur galėtumem susirašyti?
| English PLEASE!!!!!!!!!😎 |
Re: My method for selling VERO items on eBay
Quote:
Originally Posted by 13obby
(Post 911573)
English PLEASE!!!!!!!!!😎
| Google translator when in doubt... :p |
| Kajunrook | 04-02-2018 08:19 PM |
Re: My method for selling VERO items on eBay
Quote:
Originally Posted by DomRau
(Post 911498)
Dear, it is not a pure illusion. Everything what I said is from my experience. I have tried everything and lost many accounts until I've found what really works.
If you don't want to get instant MC999 or MC113, you must build trust with eBay. You must act like a human on your stealth accounts, you must make browsing history, sales/buy history, etc. You must be like a man which wants to sell his OWN branded (High-Risk / Vero) item. Once you are this man, you can get started.
However, this is true what you said. Your account can be banned or you can be asked to verify your account by eBay if you have been reported by VERO or users cause of counterfeit. But till this, it's much better to sell VERO items with aged accounts which have history.
| Well I will find out soon if his method works as I have two ebay accounts left and opened a new one today, so I will rotate VERO items between the three. I did notice that the 5 year acct I still have does not get take downs as much as the newer accounts do, but that is just my observation. |
| nickopedia | 04-02-2018 10:19 PM |
Re: My method for selling VERO items on eBay
Quote:
Originally Posted by walkingupwards
(Post 911468)
With all due respect, but your way is pure illusion. Ebay doesn't take down listings themselves nor they listen to customer complaints regarding authenticity of sold products. They act upon requests from IP rights owners. According to your methodology a new account will not survive the web scrawler deployed by company specializing in catching infringing listings (e.g: Markmonitor) and an old account would, from my experience that is not true at all.
Markmonitor will always look for the listings that pose the biggest risk to their customer, that is, the listings that appear high in search results and who sell the most.
I see new accounts popping up everyday and they list their Vero items right away, most of them survive the first few months without any problem. Once they rank high in search results ---> Boom, they are taken down. Go ahead and search for Vero items, scroll to remote pages in search results and you will see hundreds of listings that have not been touched by rights owners at all and the reason is simple, the rist they post is minimal in comparison to others.
The only way to survive in the Vero world is by finding away to deceive the bot looking for your listing. You can do that by either excluding the brand name from your title or by using low quality photos that won't match up with the bot's database of imagery.
Making intervals between your listings or waiting a few days or weeks before you list your first Vero item doesn't really make a difference IMHO.
At the end you're right, Vero items have a lot of potential behind them. I know a UK based seller who's selling anywhere between 500-800 items per day (that's from one listing) and he's been doing it for over a year, lucky him!
| This guy knows that he's talking about. Rarely, eBay themselves is NOT the ones who pulls listings, it's the IP rights holders, or their 3rd party affiliates they contract with to monitor listings such as Markmonitor.
As soon as your VERO listings get any kind visibility, then BOOM, their bot will flag them. The only effective way to even have a chance for your VERO listings to stay up is to try and trick the bot. HINT: Use different keywords, or category. You might lose some sales, but your listing is likely to survive longer than it otherwise would if you rank higher in the results. |
| DomRau | 04-03-2018 12:39 AM |
Re: My method for selling VERO items on eBay
Quote:
Originally Posted by nickopedia
(Post 911613)
This guy knows that he's talking about. Rarely, eBay themselves is NOT the ones who pulls listings, it's the IP rights holders, or their 3rd party affiliates they contract with to monitor listings such as Markmonitor.
As soon as your VERO listings get any kind visibility, then BOOM, their bot will flag them. The only effective way to even have a chance for your VERO listings to stay up is to try and trick the bot. HINT: Use different keywords, or category. You might lose some sales, but your listing is likely to survive longer than it otherwise would if you rank higher in the results.
| Yes, that's true. However, if your account is strong, you can be reported and you still have a chances to stay alive (I had the same situations).
Secondly, my method is talking about how to stay alive longer until you will be reported. If you are listing an item with account which does not have any history, ebay bot will remove it within first ~12 hours. However, if your account is quite stronger, you have much more chances to pass it :) |
| nickopedia | 04-03-2018 01:17 AM |
Re: My method for selling VERO items on eBay
Quote:
Originally Posted by DomRau
(Post 911627)
Yes, that's true. However, if your account is strong, you can be reported and you still have a chances to stay alive (I had the same situations).
Secondly, my method is talking about how to stay alive longer until you will be reported. If you are listing an item with account which does not have any history, ebay bot will remove it within first ~12 hours. However, if your account is quite stronger, you have much more chances to pass it :)
| Oh, of course a stronger account has a much better chance of staying up despite being reported (e.g. Markmonitor) or for VERO violations.
There are a few other things I have noticed I use to my advantage. For example in the categories I sell in, there is a "sweep" or take down routine that seems to occur on certain days/hours. For example, in one particular category a bunch of listings will often be pulled down between 9am-noon Pacific Time Mon-Fri. If I list after noon, or on the weekends, they are a lot less likely to get pulled. These "sweeps" come in at predictable times. I've also noticed the listings with two "brand" names in particular are always pulled first. The other listings that don't contain those two words, but list the exact same item are left alone for longer, or not touched at all.
Paying close attention to what competitors are doing is important, too. |
| DomRau | 04-03-2018 01:49 AM |
Re: My method for selling VERO items on eBay
Yes, it is very good notice. Your advices are great. You know what else I have noticed? The PayPayal limittation cycles. If my 2-3 accounts were limitted, it's better to stop selling for a few weeks, because the PayPal party has been started.. After a few weeks you can get back to the game and sell again without any limittations or just a few limittations during the sales period.
You must be ,,ebay-friendly" if you want to earn good money by selling V3R0. You must know ebay as much as possible if you want to avoid hard and black work.. |
| GreenBean | 04-03-2018 02:26 AM |
Re: My method for selling VERO items on eBay
Quote:
Originally Posted by DomRau
(Post 911393)
Yeah, you must do everything very slowly with de accounts :)
| You go slowly with any account on any platform.
:thumb: |
| nickopedia | 04-03-2018 02:46 AM |
Re: My method for selling VERO items on eBay
When bots are involved, things are hardly random.
Bots are a type of algorithm that's setup a particular way. The sheer size of eBay & PayPal make policing things with real people near impossible, so bots do 99% of the real work. The trick is to figure out what triggers a limitation or particular action from occurring. You really have to be observant and pay close attention to little things, not to mention spend a lot of time studying how it all works.
Selling VeRO under the radar is possible with some skill & luck. Moreso the former. Yes, slow & steady is key along with doing your homework and following principals in the Stealth Guide. |
| GreenBean | 04-03-2018 03:47 AM |
Re: My method for selling VERO items on eBay
I do not condone selling VeRO.
But I do know understanding and working within the program, allows for success in selling.
Know your enemy, eh?
:comp5: |
| DomRau | 04-03-2018 06:06 AM |
Re: My method for selling VERO items on eBay
Absolutely right ;)) |
| austyn12x | 04-04-2018 11:43 PM |
Re: My method for selling VERO items on eBay
Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenBean
(Post 911641)
I do not condone selling VeRO.
But I do know understanding and working within the program, allows for success in selling.
Know your enemy, eh?
:comp5:
| Yeah i do not know why people sell vero items,you can make more money if you start your own product. |
| DomRau | 04-05-2018 04:48 AM |
Re: My method for selling VERO items on eBay
How many people have ability to make his own product?
More money by selling your own product? Oh... I could'nt agree with you. If you want your product being sold like a charm, you must do branding, etc.
Or I have missunderatood your definition ,,own product"? |
| nickopedia | 04-05-2018 07:05 AM |
Re: My method for selling VERO items on eBay
I also don't condone selling VERO, but people do because it's profitable.
Selling drugs is also very profitable, too.
Some people aren't concerned with the legalities, but then again this is not the place to give a "how to" sell Vero. If you're going to do it, make sure you know what you're getting into and are aware of the risks of doing so.
Selling your own products works if the item is self-made, such as a handicraft or something. Creating a new product from scratch that's vailable typically takes loads of money and time. It's not going to work for everybody, or main stream sellers. |
| GreenBean | 04-05-2018 07:45 AM |
Re: My method for selling VERO items on eBay
Quote:
Originally Posted by DomRau
(Post 912174)
How many people have ability to make his own product?
More money by selling your own product? Oh... I could'nt agree with you. If you want your product being sold like a charm, you must do branding, etc.
Or I have missunderatood your definition ,,own product"?
| You have misunderstood, totally.
The poster meant finding a suitable product to sell without going near that other world of production.
:comp5: |
| Aguero | 04-11-2018 04:16 PM |
Re: My method for selling VERO items on eBay
I saw many sellers doing the V e R O thing mixed or not with low risk items, on new or aged accounts. A strange puzzle for me.
Keyword spamming is against eBay Policy or I missed something very important ? |
| Kajunrook | 04-11-2018 04:17 PM |
Re: My method for selling VERO items on eBay
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aguero
(Post 913717)
I saw many sellers doing the V e R O thing mixed or not with low risk items, on new or aged accounts. A strange puzzle for me.
Keyword spamming is against eBay Policy or I missed something very important ?
| Don't know what you mean by keyword spamming |
| Aguero | 04-11-2018 04:20 PM |
Re: My method for selling VERO items on eBay
Something like hiding the brand in the listing and dont writing in the title and description. |
| Kajunrook | 04-11-2018 04:21 PM |
Re: My method for selling VERO items on eBay
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aguero
(Post 913720)
Something like hiding the brand in the listing and dont writing in the title and description.
| I use abbreviations I don't put it in the title and I abbreviate it or something similar in the body |
| Aguero | 04-11-2018 04:30 PM |
Re: My method for selling VERO items on eBay
How your clients find your items and how they know what are they buying ? |
| Kajunrook | 04-11-2018 04:33 PM |
Re: My method for selling VERO items on eBay
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aguero
(Post 913725)
How your clients find your items and how they know what are they buying ?
| 75% of my Vero buyers are return buyers and if I don't have what they want listed they send me a message and I just put up a generic listing and they buy |
| Aguero | 04-11-2018 04:35 PM |
Re: My method for selling VERO items on eBay
Good idea but can't work for many sellers imo.
May be there is some html tricks and photo description or may be this info is outdated. |
| Kajunrook | 04-11-2018 04:39 PM |
Re: My method for selling VERO items on eBay
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aguero
(Post 913729)
Good idea but can't work for many sellers imo.
| Example, you CANNOT sell confederate flag on ebay, but you title it Southern flag |
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