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walkingupwards 10-04-2018 08:24 AM

WTF is wrong with eBay lately?
 
My listings had the most impressions among all competitors in my category and my sales used to be way much better than everybody else.


My impressions not just plummeted, they are negative now!! Something happened to my sales 1 month ago and no matter what I do it won't be fixed!

I tried listing using the category templates, but that also didn't work.



Any idea what exactly is happening?

aspkin 10-04-2018 08:25 AM

Re: WTF is wrong with eBay lately?
 
Sounds like you're being throttled.. are you drop shipping?

walkingupwards 10-04-2018 08:37 AM

Re: WTF is wrong with eBay lately?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aspkin (Post 947711)
Sounds like you're being throttled.. are you drop shipping?


Not at all. Could eBay be thinking that I am a dropshipper because I connect using a VPN?!

phaz0rz 10-04-2018 08:39 AM

Re: WTF is wrong with eBay lately?
 
It's possible. Even if they don't think you're dropshipping it's possible the VPN usage caused your account to be flagged in one way or another.

There has been tons of talk on this forum lately about eBay making some kind of search algorithm change which identifies and throttles sellers it thinks are dropshipping. I would guess the algorithm updates don't only throttle dropshippers.

walkingupwards 10-04-2018 08:44 AM

Re: WTF is wrong with eBay lately?
 
Well, 99% of my customers leave a feedback that they got their items on time. Could the new algorithm flag an account based on the usage of VPN?!!

Don't most sellers here use VPN? When was the new algorithm put in place?

phaz0rz 10-04-2018 08:44 AM

Re: WTF is wrong with eBay lately?
 
Also I forgot to mention - eBay has been transitioning to their "product catalog" which is probably a huge factor in your impressions drop. When you go to your listings, are you being recommended by eBay as the best deal in the catalog? If not, your potential buyers are being directed by eBay to another seller.

phaz0rz 10-04-2018 08:46 AM

Re: WTF is wrong with eBay lately?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by walkingupwards (Post 947718)
Well, 99% of my customers leave a feedback that they got their items on time. Could the new algorithm flag an account based on the usage of VPN?!!

Don't most sellers here use VPN? When was the new algorithm put in place?

It can and probably does.

A large percentage of sellers here do use them.

Still though, I think the product catalog is a bigger factor here than your use of a VPN.

SaiJin 10-04-2018 09:34 AM

Re: WTF is wrong with eBay lately?
 
Yes, a lot of people are using VPN. I agree with Phazor, I think it's got something to do with the catalog more than anything.

Lots of business people also use VPN specially when they travel, so I doubt that they'd nail you for that.

Just wondering, are you also doing any type of outside of eBay marketting?

walkingupwards 10-04-2018 09:38 AM

Re: WTF is wrong with eBay lately?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SaiJin (Post 947725)
Yes, a lot of people are using VPN. I agree with Phazor, I think it's got something to do with the catalog more than anything.

Lots of business people also use VPN specially when they travel, so I doubt that they'd nail you for that.

Just wondering, are you also doing any type of outside of eBay marketting?



I only do business on eBay actually. The weird thing is that a bunch of sellers in the category got their sales plummeted. When I browse the category, all items are weirdly sorted out and in some items who don't belong there are showing up. At first I thought it has something to do with the IP I am browsing from, but that turned out not to be the case.

newjerseymax 10-04-2018 11:21 AM

Re: WTF is wrong with eBay lately?
 
ebay was different cause it didn't have catalog style listings. Now we moved most everything to Amazon. If its going to be the same style, then I might as well sell where it makes more money and traffic.

phaz0rz 10-04-2018 11:30 AM

Re: WTF is wrong with eBay lately?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by walkingupwards (Post 947731)
I only do business on eBay actually. The weird thing is that a bunch of sellers in the category got their sales plummeted. When I browse the category, all items are weirdly sorted out and in some items who don't belong there are showing up. At first I thought it has something to do with the IP I am browsing from, but that turned out not to be the case.

All those other sellers you reference saw their sales plummet too most likely because their listings aren't being featured in the catalog either. They take the seller with the lowest price + best shipping and give them eBay's equivalent of the "buy box" so that one seller gets almost all the sales for an item, while other sellers with the same item get almost no sales.

Like I said earlier, go check and see if your items are being recommended in the catalog. If not you'll need to adjust your listings accordingly.

Sunspot144 10-04-2018 03:00 PM

Re: WTF is wrong with eBay lately?
 
Consider listing under different product conditions in the catalog. I can see some 'New other' entries selling for more than the 'New'. Wether or not they sell is a different story, but customers do crazy things.

AndrewM 10-04-2018 03:45 PM

Re: WTF is wrong with eBay lately?
 
Ok sorry for the stupid question.

What is the ebay catalog?

for me I am finding items I just listed on my new account are buried 10 pages deep. Is it because it is new or because I am not using keywords etc.

Sunspot144 10-04-2018 03:57 PM

Re: WTF is wrong with eBay lately?
 
If you're listing with the catalog template you'll need to be lowest price.

If you're creating your own unique listings the quick and dirty approach is to just use sponsored listings - if you can afford. Might help you rank higher for the time being.

walkingupwards 10-04-2018 04:43 PM

Re: WTF is wrong with eBay lately?
 
eBay seems on a highway to failure. What they need to do in my opinion is to go back to their origin and be just eBay. Trying to emulate Amazon in every way will only do harm to the platform in my opinion.

Sellers on Amazon must see in eBay a market and an opportunity that does not simply exist on Amazon.

It's funny how they want sellers to choose a catalog and then direct all sales to the seller with the lowest price. What a crazy policy indeed!

CoDebits 10-13-2018 11:41 AM

Re: WTF is wrong with eBay lately?
 
yes , something happening, i got same issue for some products

empirestate 10-13-2018 12:09 PM

Re: WTF is wrong with eBay lately?
 

walkingupwards 10-13-2018 04:25 PM

Re: WTF is wrong with eBay lately?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by empirestate (Post 949610)
Something big is going to happen. eBay will drop PP COMPLETELY



I think dropping PP will be in the interest of sellers. If someone could cheat on PayPal and verify their account, why wouldn't they do the same with Adyen?!

phaz0rz 10-14-2018 08:23 AM

Re: WTF is wrong with eBay lately?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by walkingupwards (Post 949668)
I think dropping PP will be in the interest of sellers. If someone could cheat on PayPal and verify their account, why wouldn't they do the same with Adyen?!

Because Adyen is an actual merchant account provider, meaning it would be a felony for us in the USA to give them "stealth info" like we do with Paypal.

It's not going to help sellers at all. Especially not stealth sellers like us. :juggle:

empirestate 10-14-2018 08:33 AM

Re: WTF is wrong with eBay lately?
 

phaz0rz 10-14-2018 08:41 AM

Re: WTF is wrong with eBay lately?
 
They have an EU banking license which gives them the ability to verify EU users instantly.

Currently in USA they aren't a bank but they are a 3rd party processor of Wells Fargo. They're setup just like TSYS from what I can see.

Don't quote me on it quite yet but I'm 99% sure giving phake info to Adyen in order to accept payments through them would be the same as giving Authorize.net phake info, which is for sure illegal even with Auth.net not being a bank.

rsot 10-14-2018 09:48 AM

Re: WTF is wrong with eBay lately?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 949748)
They have an EU banking license which gives them the ability to verify EU users instantly.

Currently in USA they aren't a bank but they are a 3rd party processor of Wells Fargo. They're setup just like TSYS from what I can see.

Don't quote me on it quite yet but I'm 99% sure giving phake info to Adyen in order to accept payments through them would be the same as giving Authorize.net phake info, which is for sure illegal even with Auth.net not being a bank.

Nice clarity phaz

walkingupwards 10-14-2018 03:20 PM

Re: WTF is wrong with eBay lately?
 
Is it not a felony to give PayPal ⊗⊗⊗⊗ documents?

Camaro2SS 10-14-2018 05:20 PM

Re: WTF is wrong with eBay lately?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by walkingupwards (Post 949872)
Is it not a felony to give PayPal ⊗⊗⊗⊗ documents?

I doubt that. But it is against their TOS lol

SaiJin 10-14-2018 06:00 PM

Re: WTF is wrong with eBay lately?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Camaro2SS (Post 949898)
I doubt that. But it is against their TOS lol

hahaha, that's actually a really good answer.

ati63 10-15-2018 11:32 AM

Re: WTF is wrong with eBay lately?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by walkingupwards (Post 949872)
Is it not a felony to give PayPal ⊗⊗⊗⊗ documents?

Putting non true info online with them, and providing them with ⊗⊗⊗⊗ documents are two different categories, I guess ...

BTW what does distinct some group as Athorize.net from Paypal ..to the extent that for one is legal an to others illegal to lie !?
I mean, when is up to them to check (or not) validity of provided info and when you are obliged to obey from legal standpoint ?

phaz0rz 10-15-2018 02:09 PM

Re: WTF is wrong with eBay lately?
 
Auth.net requires your tax ID on registration so by default if you used anything other than your own tax ID you're committing ID theft. I'm hearing it's the same with Adyen - you give your tax ID before you start accepting payments.

With Paypal you're basically using their merchant account and they are processing payments on your behalf. That's why anyone can use their service without a painstaking merchant account application.

With Adyen/Auth.net/any real merchant account, you're using your own merchant account and are processing transactions directly on the big 4 card networks.

walkingupwards 10-15-2018 04:09 PM

Re: WTF is wrong with eBay lately?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 950108)
Auth.net requires your tax ID on registration so by default if you used anything other than your own tax ID you're committing ID theft. I'm hearing it's the same with Adyen - you give your tax ID before you start accepting payments.

With Paypal you're basically using their merchant account and they are processing payments on your behalf. That's why anyone can use their service without a painstaking merchant account application.

With Adyen/Auth.net/any real merchant account, you're using your own merchant account and are processing transactions directly on the big 4 card networks.



When will Adyen be mandatory for eBay sellers? I have never had a merchant account. Does one'e credit score play a role in this? In other words, will someone with not so good credit rating be able to use Adyen to sell on eBay?

phaz0rz 10-15-2018 04:13 PM

Re: WTF is wrong with eBay lately?
 
Yes it will become mandatory. They're saying Paypal will be completely phased out by 2023 so Adyen will presumably be the only option, unless those already using merchant accounts are grandfathered in.

Credit score is checked when you apply for a traditional merchant account. I was declined for one at Wells Fargo for having no credit history at the time. I doubt the underwriting standards will be as strict with Adyen as they are with Wells Fargo so the requirements probably won't be as strict. I haven't used it yet so IDK what the application process is going to be like. But I know there's going to be an application process and that's scary.

SaiJin 10-15-2018 05:05 PM

Re: WTF is wrong with eBay lately?
 
So adyen is big... their test screening and application setup alone is going to take 5-7 days.

It's possible to have 1 live account with them then create branches of businesses per merchant account to attach to each eBay business account.

This is how I see it happen when they phase out paypal


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