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donkeykong2012 11-14-2018 12:14 PM

No Paypal for new US Seller Accounts?
 
https://www.ecommercebytes.com/C/blo...542211812.html

I am curious if the US sellers on here can confirm or deny this?

donkeykong2012 11-14-2018 12:19 PM

Re: No Paypal for new US Seller Accounts?
 
No Paypal on ALL new Seller Accounts though?

Good God....

ebaystealth1974 11-14-2018 12:25 PM

Re: No Paypal for new US Seller Accounts?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 957516)

I wonder if that means the one I have attached will be detached, or if they will just stop allowing new merchant accounts.

Current sellers can continue to use IMCC until Mar 1, 2019. Although you need to remove this payment option from your listings by then, buyers will still be able to use a credit or debit card when they buy your items.

ebaystealth1974 11-14-2018 12:26 PM

Re: No Paypal for new US Seller Accounts?
 
Sucks for new seller, if they have to start off selling before EB allows PP on Ayden. :(

ebaystealth1974 11-14-2018 12:31 PM

Re: No Paypal for new US Seller Accounts?
 
It'll only help when EB allows PP on Ayden. :/

ebaystealth1974 11-14-2018 12:31 PM

Re: No Paypal for new US Seller Accounts?
 
Ive never bought anything from a seller who only offers a merchant account.

ebaystealth1974 11-14-2018 12:33 PM

Re: No Paypal for new US Seller Accounts?
 
Maybe I'll dig through our old PMs on here and get your user ID and try to buy something from you... just to see what it looks like lol

bjammin 11-14-2018 03:12 PM

Re: No Paypal for new US Seller Accounts?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by donkeykong2012 (Post 957515)
https://www.ecommercebytes.com/C/blo...542211812.html

I am curious if the US sellers on here can confirm or deny this?

I can 100% deny this.

After reading the post created and reading the article and talking to another account seller, whom was also concerned from this thread, I created an ebay/paypal account less than 1 hour ago. It still allowed me to link ebay and paypal, add paypal as reimbursement method and approved payment method. This is generally how I make all accounts. I notice zero differences in making the account as normal.

The other account seller then added I needed to make sure it would accept paypal as the method fro accepting payments. So I created a listing and the ONLY option I saw to accept payments was with paypal. I completed the listing with paypal as the payment method with no issues, same as it has been.

So tested, tried, and true. It is still business as usual for now :thumb:

@donkeykong2012, good catch on seeing the article, but it seems the writer doesnt know exactly what they are talking about or the rep they spoke to was the typical run-of-the-mill idiot. But money is on the idiot ebay rep.

ebaystealth1974 11-14-2018 03:29 PM

Re: No Paypal for new US Seller Accounts?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 957528)
My sales on that account have picked up a little since they've started phasing out Paypal.

Good! :thumb:

phaz0rz 11-14-2018 03:30 PM

Re: No Paypal for new US Seller Accounts?
 
That's good to hear. I wonder if your results would be the same if you randomly picked a few locations throughout the country and made accounts there. They're known to roll everything out in phases..

donkeykong2012 11-14-2018 03:30 PM

Re: No Paypal for new US Seller Accounts?
 
Thanks for the clarification.

I suspected as such.

It might be rolled out on random new accounts for now?

slokor 11-14-2018 03:39 PM

Re: No Paypal for new US Seller Accounts?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bjammin (Post 957585)
I can 100% deny this.

After reading the post created and reading the article and talking to another account seller, whom was also concerned from this thread, I created an ebay/paypal account less than 1 hour ago. It still allowed me to link ebay and paypal, add paypal as reimbursement method and approved payment method. This is generally how I make all accounts. I notice zero differences in making the account as normal.

The other account seller then added I needed to make sure it would accept paypal as the method fro accepting payments. So I created a listing and the ONLY option I saw to accept payments was with paypal. I completed the listing with paypal as the payment method with no issues, same as it has been.

So tested, tried, and true. It is still business as usual for now :thumb:

@donkeykong2012, good catch on seeing the article, but it seems the writer doesnt know exactly what they are talking about or the rep they spoke to was the typical run-of-the-mill idiot. But money is on the idiot ebay rep.

Thanks for taking the effort and getting this tested for the benefit of us all. Much appreciated.

bjammin 11-14-2018 03:40 PM

Re: No Paypal for new US Seller Accounts?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 957593)
That's good to hear. I wonder if your results would be the same if you randomly picked a few locations throughout the country and made accounts there. They're known to roll everything out in phases..

Quote:

Originally Posted by donkeykong2012 (Post 957594)
Thanks for the clarification.

I suspected as such.

It might be rolled out on random new accounts for now?


I can make some more accounts and put listings up over the next couple days and I will keep everyone updated, pass or fail. I don't want to sell accounts that are not functioning how they are expected to anyhow.

JamesNorth101 11-14-2018 03:43 PM

Re: No Paypal for new US Seller Accounts?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bjammin (Post 957585)
I can 100% deny this.

After reading the post created and reading the article and talking to another account seller, whom was also concerned from this thread, I created an ebay/paypal account less than 1 hour ago. It still allowed me to link ebay and paypal, add paypal as reimbursement method and approved payment method. This is generally how I make all accounts. I notice zero differences in making the account as normal.

The other account seller then added I needed to make sure it would accept paypal as the method fro accepting payments. So I created a listing and the ONLY option I saw to accept payments was with paypal. I completed the listing with paypal as the payment method with no issues, same as it has been.

So tested, tried, and true. It is still business as usual for now :thumb:

@donkeykong2012, good catch on seeing the article, but it seems the writer doesnt know exactly what they are talking about or the rep they spoke to was the typical run-of-the-mill idiot. But money is on the idiot ebay rep.

Good work!

SaiJin 11-14-2018 04:03 PM

Re: No Paypal for new US Seller Accounts?
 
Huh? You can still create and use PP on new eBay accounts...

I'm not sure where this is coming from?

bjammin 11-14-2018 04:15 PM

Re: No Paypal for new US Seller Accounts?
 
Yes, you can. Why would you think that you cannot?

donkeykong2012 11-14-2018 04:32 PM

Re: No Paypal for new US Seller Accounts?
 
The Ecommerce Bytes Article has now been updated.

F*ke News LOL

Update 11/14/18: An eBay spokesperson responded to our inquiry and said eBay was not forcing new accounts in managed payments, stating that was "not consistent with the experience we are providing in managed payments. Right now, this is an invitation-only program for carefully selected existing sellers."

"Sellers are central to creating this new experience, and we've been partnering closely with them to share our vision for the end state of managed payments. We're taking extra efforts to listen to sellers' feedback, concerns and ideas.

"As part of this, we are working with sellers one-on-one to understand whether managed payments is a fit for them. If managed payments doesn't work for a seller, we want to work with them to see if we can help them be successful with the changes, ensure we understand and document what isn't working, and if needed revert their account to the prior state. That said, the process to revert accounts to their prior payment settings can be complex as orders and listings can be in different states, and this process is managed individually with each seller."

JamesNorth101 11-14-2018 04:52 PM

Re: No Paypal for new US Seller Accounts?
 
That makes a lot more sense

It would be very weird to have it working like the way the article suggested so soon

ebaystealth1974 11-14-2018 05:31 PM

Re: No Paypal for new US Seller Accounts?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by donkeykong2012 (Post 957617)
The Ecommerce Bytes Article has now been updated.

F*ke News LOL

Update 11/14/18: An eBay spokesperson responded to our inquiry and said eBay was not forcing new accounts in managed payments, stating that was "not consistent with the experience we are providing in managed payments. Right now, this is an invitation-only program for carefully selected existing sellers."


What it should say is, "after cruising the stealth forums and noticing famed account creator, bjammin, wasn't experiencing the same results... blah blah blah" lol

bjammin 11-14-2018 05:52 PM

Re: No Paypal for new US Seller Accounts?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101 (Post 957627)
That makes a lot more sense

It would be very weird to have it working like the way the article suggested so soon

Agreed, especially with them not putting the new payment option right in your face. No way they are going to have new customers guess at what they use for a processor. New customers would get frustrated and say "f' this" then go somewhere else.

Anyhow, I am glad to hear that the story was false. This puts a lot at ease.

bjammin 11-14-2018 05:54 PM

Re: No Paypal for new US Seller Accounts?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ebaystealth1974 (Post 957640)
What it should say is, "after cruising the stealth forums and noticing famed account creator, bjammin, wasn't experiencing the same results... blah blah blah" lol

LOL
:humble::humble::humble:

Coach Stealth 11-14-2018 07:46 PM

Re: No Paypal for new US Seller Accounts?
 
Are we have to own a merchant account to keep using ebay after they kill paypal next year?

ebaystealth1974 11-14-2018 09:26 PM

Re: No Paypal for new US Seller Accounts?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Fuhrer84 (Post 957676)
Are we have to own a merchant account to keep using ebay after they kill paypal next year?

Merchant accounts are going away, too.

eman350 11-15-2018 03:48 AM

Re: No Paypal for new US Seller Accounts?
 
Guys we got a whole 4 years, till 2023 july before they remove paypal completly from sellers accounts.
Right now they testing managed payments, it might not get approved anyways. Alot of sellers are complaining about it to ebay.

nickopedia 11-15-2018 07:15 AM

Re: No Paypal for new US Seller Accounts?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eman350 (Post 957780)
Guys we got a whole 4 years, till 2023 july before they remove paypal completly from sellers accounts.
Right now they testing managed payments, it might not get approved anyways. Alot of sellers are complaining about it to ebay.

This is yet another example of companies not listening to their customers. If eBay thinks their revenue is on thew decline now, just wait until they make integrated payments mandatory across their platform. I wouldn't be shocked to see as much as a 50% loss in revenues once they fully implement it. it might just be the catalyst sellers need to migrate elsewhere.

Complaints from thousands of sellers may not be enough to change things. Ebay's stock price is currently around $28 per share. Will they pay attention once it drops below $10, $8, $2 ?

Let's hope so. :yar:

phaz0rz 11-15-2018 07:46 AM

Re: No Paypal for new US Seller Accounts?
 
Glad the story turned out to be untrue, but I wonder what that user in the story was going through...

Maybe they gave her the beta registration page that's still in testing phases, by accident.

ebaystealth1974 11-15-2018 10:47 AM

Re: No Paypal for new US Seller Accounts?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nickopedia (Post 957804)
This is yet another example of companies not listening to their customers. If eBay thinks their revenue is on thew decline now, just wait until they make integrated payments mandatory across their platform. I wouldn't be shocked to see as much as a 50% loss in revenues once they fully implement it. it might just be the catalyst sellers need to migrate elsewhere.

they are going to start accepting PP on Ayden in the Spring of 2019, at which point there shouldn't be any difference at all in sales.

I'm not sure why they dont just go ahead and allow it. Makes zero sense to me...

phaz0rz 11-15-2018 10:55 AM

Re: No Paypal for new US Seller Accounts?
 
Quote:

Makes zero sense to me...
Try this on for size, ebs..

Coincidentally, you have to have your Paypal account SSN verified by March 2019 in order to continue using your PP balance for payments according to the forum.

So it sounds like they don't want any funds from non-SSN verified USA Paypal accounts going into the Adyen payment system. Because then sellers could use their non-SSN verified stealth accounts to purchase from their eBay stores with Adyen enabled, and have a cashout method, I guess.

This is just my guess at their reasoning. But I'm willing to bet "confirm your info by 3/2019 to continue using your Paypal balance" and "Paypal payments will be integrated into adyen in 3/2019" are directly tied together.

ebaystealth1974 11-15-2018 10:57 AM

Re: No Paypal for new US Seller Accounts?
 
To whatever extent, it does appear that way huh...

nickopedia 11-15-2018 02:41 PM

Re: No Paypal for new US Seller Accounts?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 957851)
Try this on for size, ebs..

Coincidentally, you have to have your Paypal account SSN verified by March 2019 in order to continue using your PP balance for payments according to the forum.

So it sounds like they don't want any funds from non-SSN verified USA Paypal accounts going into the Adyen payment system. Because then sellers could use their non-SSN verified stealth accounts to purchase from their eBay stores with Adyen enabled, and have a cashout method, I guess.

This is just my guess at their reasoning. But I'm willing to bet "confirm your info by 3/2019 to continue using your Paypal balance" and "Paypal payments will be integrated into adyen in 3/2019" are directly tied together.

This is likely the case. You can be sure it's been well thought out to control cash flow once fully implemented.

suspendedfoe 11-15-2018 08:07 PM

Re: No Paypal for new US Seller Accounts?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 957851)
Try this on for size, ebs..

Coincidentally, you have to have your Paypal account SSN verified by March 2019 in order to continue using your PP balance for payments according to the forum.

So it sounds like they don't want any funds from non-SSN verified USA Paypal accounts going into the Adyen payment system. Because then sellers could use their non-SSN verified stealth accounts to purchase from their eBay stores with Adyen enabled, and have a cashout method, I guess.

This is just my guess at their reasoning. But I'm willing to bet "confirm your info by 3/2019 to continue using your Paypal balance" and "Paypal payments will be integrated into adyen in 3/2019" are directly tied together.

so this update is going to be rolled out for sure? this means stealth accounts will be more limited as you will need SSN/EIN per account instead of having as many and taxing on the amounts you make

nickopedia 11-15-2018 09:03 PM

Re: No Paypal for new US Seller Accounts?
 
FYI: ALL merchant account processors require SSN/EIN, they need some sort of Tax ID anyway.

Aside from the Tax ID requirement, there is the matter of underwriting and identity verification. It's this that we don't know the extent of. Will they simply accept any SSN/EIN # you give them to satisfy that requirement, or will they actually check to see if it's valid? I know from experience, any merchant processor does a credit check or at least checks the identity details much like a bank would.

If that's the case you can be sure you can't have a stealth account as using any other details other than your own would consititue identity theft.


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