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Default Everyone who had VeRO Strike are welcome!

Hi,

As tittle says, everyone who had problems with vero strikes,

I have few questions for you.

I'm dev, and creating some unique software to bypass VeRO,

If you have time could you list all your strikes with date?
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Bypass VERO.......people, comment with a grain of salt.
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Bypass VERO.......people, comment with a grain of salt.
Bypassing VeRO is possible

Everything is automated by keywords and dates,

If you feel better now by commenting **** here, Congra.
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interesting proposition...
youd make alot of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ just selling this service if you actually figured it out
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interesting proposition...
youd make alot of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ just selling this service if you actually figured it out
I have few ebay accounts and listed some high VeRO items simply to get strike and compare Date, Time, Keywords, Reports and lot of more stuff.

Automated bot (Software) will work based on certain specific things, listing indexing and as i said main-role play keywords, there is multiple ideas for my project i'm working on.

If someone could help (PM)me to list all VeRO strikes you got with date-time would be really helpful and may grant you to join my project.
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Vero strikes are not always automated as you might think. Listings could be flagged for a manual review.
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I selling high risk item on ebay. sometimes long run but sometimes shut down very quickly.

I think case by case even same high risk item.
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Vero strikes are not always automated as you might think. Listings could be flagged for a manual review.
Yes you are right 30%, but there is milions of illegal items on ebay. Imagine how many sellers break rules? And not even getting suspended? There is plenty of sellers who using tools to boost sales.

If you read my reply above, there is many ideas that will work all-togather meaning that ebay VERO Members would not even able to view item, why?
because of item indexing in system. Program is automated to change things every minute ():

Group of people are working on this project, not only single one. (Even some who work on EBAY, lmao.)
I have unique method that are proven to work against VeRO, but this post is
just intended to expand cognition.

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I selling high risk item on ebay. sometimes long run but sometimes shut down very quickly.

I think case by case even same high risk item.

Hi, Could you PM me about your listings (), I would investigate it.
I'm unable to send PM because i don't have 25 Posts :|

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PM with details.
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Default Re: Everyone who had VeRO Strike are welcome!

Much of it is automated, but there are human reviewers (agents) working on behalf of the rights owners that do most of the takedowns. eBay rarely takes things down themselves.

It all depends on so many things. It's not really that simple. There is no magic formula that works all the time.

The forum is not about discussing HOW to circumvent VeRO. If you think you can outsmart them, go ahead but expect to get through quite a few accounts with your whack-a-mole approach.
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Much of it is automated, but there are human reviewers (agents) working on behalf of the rights owners that do most of the takedowns. eBay rarely takes things down themselves.

It all depends on so many things. It's not really that simple. There is no magic formula that works all the time.

The forum is not about discussing HOW to circumvent VeRO. If you think you can outsmart them, go ahead but expect to get through quite a few accounts with your whack-a-mole approach.
Looks like that you didn't understand what i mean, nevermind.

Oh? I don't think that i posted something that is not in subject of this forum. So please calm down, the point is to help people.

Your opinion is explame a person who did not meet such things, It's okay i understand it.

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PM with details.
I have added you.

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I think case by case even same high risk item.
About right - keywords also come into play for automatic takedowns.
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Program is automated to change things every minute ():
This would cause listings to never get any sales.
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Add me to your list but I agree with phaz0rz listings might not get seen therefore no sales!
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This would cause listings to never get any sales.
Depending what are you selling my friend

And looks like that you didn't understand like guys above, nevermind.

Listing is alive 24/7.

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I think you're the one who's misunderstanding.

You yourself said the listing details would be constantly changing to avoid detection. That's not going to work with the way eBay indexes listings. Using your method listings would change so often they would never be indexed and never show up in search results.
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What parts of the listing do you change to cause it to be re-indexed? More than keywords?

Asking cause I think understanding search as much as possible proves beneficial.
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What parts of the listing do you change to cause it to be re-indexed? More than keywords?

Asking cause I think understanding search as much as possible proves beneficial.

Every time you revise a listing, it will theoretically get re-indexed. In practice though, revising a well established listing for the very few first times will not affect its position in search results, but once you revise it a few times in a short time period, it will be flushed down quickly and sometimes to the original placement where it was at the time of its creation.


To avoid Vero-Bots you need to remove red-flags from your title, pictures, item's description as well as item's specifics. All these parameters could land you on the radar.


Bulletproofing a listing is nearly impossible unless you get your store's ID white-listed by the rights owner through supplying invoices. Keep in mind that even if you get white-listed by the rights owner, listing items for low prices that don't make sense for an original item will also land you in hot water.



I see a lot of sellers who copycat original brand-items, but with minimal modifications in design and then branding that new product as their own. Some fail and some succeed in a fantastic way.
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^^Agreed.

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What parts of the listing do you change to cause it to be re-indexed? More than keywords?

Asking cause I think understanding search as much as possible proves beneficial.
For OP to accomplish what they're describing (being able to sell counterfeits without being detected, which I think is impossible regardless) they would have to have at least the brand name + listing title change pretty frequently, I would think...

I think OP is running on the assumption that most VeRO takedowns are done by bots, when they aren't.
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Default Re: Everyone who had VeRO Strike are welcome!

Well, still interesting to see if it works or not regardless.

I wanna be open minded to this for now
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I think you're the one who's misunderstanding.

You yourself said the listing details would be constantly changing to avoid detection. That's not going to work with the way eBay indexes listings. Using your method listings would change so often they would never be indexed and never show up in search results.
Do you know what i think?

I think that you guys are like crowd who trying to pull information from me, giving your selfs "Thanks" for no reason, but i won't share anything more...

That's just my proved opinion, VeRO can be bypassed if you know what you are doing.

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