Setting up Adyen on stealth, experiences?

phaz0rz · #23 02-10-2019

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Originally Posted by Lucynda

What's wrong with going to corp or LLC route? I have 3 LLC's.

When I got my merchant account, which belongs to one of my LLC's, they checked my personal credit during the application process. You can't legally stealth a personal credit report.. so that's why people are concerned.

IDK if it's going to be so in depth but it could be.

byte · #24 02-10-2019

What does the pay schedulement look like?

Lucynda · #25 02-10-2019

we have 4 years to figure things out.

dallis · #26 02-10-2019

It doesn't appear Adyen is going to be stealth-friendly.

It doesn't seem to be possible to open stealth accounts on ETY any more since Adyen took over.

I'm guessing it's going to be equally hard on EB.

Lucynda · #27 02-11-2019

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Originally Posted by nickopedia

What's Super Duper Easy?

I think like any typical merchant processor that takes credit cards, you have to sign up using your real identity. If so, this effectively eliminates being able to use a stealth account unless you go the Corp or LLC route.

I doubt that. The purpose of an LLC is to separate you from your business and its recommended that you set up business accounts to go with your LLC and those have only your business name on them. I went to the Adyen website and checked that out and they actually do require a copy of a photo ID but they tell you that you can block out any identifying numbers when you send it in so I don't imagine it would be difficult to use a ⊗⊗⊗⊗ ID if they indeed ask for one. I read somewhere that someone said it would have to be set up like Stealth Amazon accounts. I haven't read that book yet so I don't know how difficult that will be or how it works, but I do see a person selling stealth Amazon accounts on here.

Lucynda · #28 02-11-2019

I set up a Stripe account with real information last week and I was sorting through orders trying to figure out how to process them because in Stripe you only see the totals and not what they ordered. Then I suddenly realized "Oh yeah, they do that because it's none of their damn business what people are ordering from you, lol.

Lucynda · #29 02-11-2019

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Originally Posted by phaz0rz

When I got my merchant account, which belongs to one of my LLC's, they checked my personal credit during the application process. You can't legally stealth a personal credit report.. so that's why people are concerned.

IDK if it's going to be so in depth but it could be.

I can tell you when reviewing the information they were asking me for they asked for the main "something" on the account and that was set up just like PayPal with a person name and the last 4 of the social.

martyjump · #30 02-11-2019

How much does it cost annually for a LLC? I have a DBA checking account right now. I remember setting up a LLC years ago and the only cost was the application/paperwork fee but i ended up doing no business with it and the state ended up closing it when i didnt file taxes that year for it.

nickopedia · #31 02-11-2019

One thing people arn't talking about with Adyen is the payment holding when an account is suspended/limited.

Right now, at least with USA PayPal they can hold your payments for 180 days once they limit or part ways with you.

Adyen, like any managed payments I would be more in line with how Amazon works. If you guys take a look at the Amazon threads, you will see many situtations where Amazon holds sellers funds forever, or indefinitely.

I'm wondering if that will also be the case when (and if) we are forced to use eBay's Managed Payments?

Lucynda · #32 02-13-2019

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Originally Posted by martyjump

How much does it cost annually for a LLC? I have a DBA checking account right now. I remember setting up a LLC years ago and the only cost was the application/paperwork fee but i ended up doing no business with it and the state ended up closing it when i didnt file taxes that year for it.

it varies by state. In Arkansas, it's 50 dollars.

Lucynda · #33 02-13-2019

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Originally Posted by nickopedia

One thing people arn't talking about with Adyen is the payment holding when an account is suspended/limited.

Right now, at least with USA PayPal they can hold your payments for 180 days once they limit or part ways with you.

Adyen, like any managed payments I would be more in line with how Amazon works. If you guys take a look at the Amazon threads, you will see many situtations where Amazon holds sellers funds forever, or indefinitely.

I'm wondering if that will also be the case when (and if) we are forced to use eBay's Managed Payments?

That's a risk you take. You should be making daily deposits though/

ebaystealth1974 · #34 02-14-2019

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Originally Posted by nickopedia

Adyen, like any managed payments I would be more in line with how Amazon works. If you guys take a look at the Amazon threads, you will see many situtations where Amazon holds sellers funds forever, or indefinitely.

I'm wondering if that will also be the case when (and if) we are forced to use eBay's Managed Payments?

Payments can be pushed daily, though. So you'll never have a sh*tload in there for them to keep.

ebaystealth1974 · #35 02-14-2019

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Originally Posted by dallis

It doesn't appear Adyen is going to be stealth-friendly.

It doesn't seem to be possible to open stealth accounts on ETY any more since Adyen took over.

What? Tell that to Gladiator lol

ebaystealth1974 · #36 02-14-2019

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Originally Posted by Lucynda

I set up a Stripe account with real information last week and I was sorting through orders trying to figure out how to process them because in Stripe you only see the totals and not what they ordered. Then I suddenly realized "Oh yeah, they do that because it's none of their damn business what people are ordering from you, lol.

Oh, it's every bit their business... what you're selling! They'll suspend your a55 in a heartbeat if you sell things not approved by them.

phaz0rz · #37 02-14-2019

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Originally Posted by ebaystealth1974

Oh, it's every bit their business... what you're selling! They'll suspend your a55 in a heartbeat if you sell things not approved by them.

I can confirm, Stripe really, really cares about what you sell.

ebaystealth1974 · #38 02-14-2019

I have Stripe, too. My biggest complaint with them is their "we don't give a phuck about your chargeback" policy.

yankee · #39 02-14-2019

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Originally Posted by tim348

so when are they officially forcing us all to switch to ayden?

Maybe never.....Maybe 2023.

yankee · #40 02-14-2019

Super Duper Easy. Easier than Paypal for sure.

**SaiJin** · #41 02-14-2019

With Adyen, perhaps making the names as a business that's associated with the eBay account would work? Speculations of course.

nickopedia · #42 02-14-2019

I have yet to experience the Managed Payments enrollment on any of my stealths, but I'll be curious to see how much information they require.

bootleg.101 · #43 02-15-2019

The real question is what does Adyen share with ebay? Obviously this will be your name, company, address, email, phone, etc. but do they share SSN with eB or does eB/Pypal share suspended account info with adyen?? these are the more important questions. If you can make a legit adyen account with different LLC name/address/etc than a burned account and adyen only shares minimal info with eB, than life is good. But who cares if eB gets your real name if all the other info is different from your burned account. Thousands of people in my city have my real name....

edit: you can signup offsite and create adyen account then link it to eB later?

Lucynda · #44 02-16-2019

Here is where I am at. I haven't sent in the information yet. They are asking for the beneficiary of the LLC. I have put down the stealth information and the last 4 of the EIN. However, I am the beneficiary of the LLC and the EIN. i found this online today also.

""On May 11, 2018, a new rule went into effect that requires financial institutions to gather additional information from legal entity (business) customers. The Certification Regarding Beneficial Owners of Legal Entity Customers requirement, or "Beneficial Ownership" for short, was created to help government and law enforcement fight money laundering and terrorism by identifying exactly who benefits from a company's revenue and who actually controls the goings-on within the business.

Because of this requirement, certain businesses opening new accounts (checking, savings, loans, etc.), adding some business services or renewing a loan or CD will have to provide identifying information on certain individuals within their organization. The person providing this information will sign a certification that the information they provided is correct to the best of their knowledge.""

So, the question is, will the stealth information work?

I did find this online ""LLC owners are known as “members.” LLC laws don't place many restrictions on who can be an LLC member. LLC members can, therefore, be individuals or business entities such as corporations or other LLCs. It is also possible to form a single-member LLC whose only owner is another LLC."

I guess this means I could form a separate LLC to add as the beneficiary of the first LLC? I went to my .gov website and the LLC application appears to allow either an entity name or an individual name.

As if my accountant didn't already hate me.