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byte 04-24-2019 09:01 PM

Ebay Adyen
 
Until how long will Ebay sellers have the ability to use Paypal instead of Adyen? And are those changes for international sellers as well?

bman707 04-24-2019 11:01 PM

Re: Ebay Adyen
 
Until mid 2021 to late 2021 I believe would like to know a confirmed time to if anyone could chime in

Leader2dark 04-25-2019 08:40 AM

Re: Ebay Adyen
 
I would like more info on if stealth is even possible with Adyen....

phaz0rz 04-25-2019 08:44 AM

Re: Ebay Adyen
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Leader2dark (Post 997344)
I would like more info on if stealth is even possible with Adyen....

No, but LLC accounts are possible and you can make as many LLC's as you desire.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bman707 (Post 997261)
Until mid 2021 to late 2021 I believe would like to know a confirmed time to if anyone could chime in

The only info I've seen from eBay regarding the matter is that they "hope to have everybody transitioned by 2023".

Quote:

Originally Posted by byte (Post 997252)
Until how long will Ebay sellers have the ability to use Paypal instead of Adyen? And are those changes for international sellers as well?

Going by what eBay says I would guess Paypal will still be a seller option for non-US/non-EU Paypals until at least 2023. When they are done, eBay managed payments will be the only option for all sellers in all countries. Paypal will only be an option for buyers to use, and if it's used the payment would go into your managed payments account.

bhuzz 04-25-2019 03:54 PM

Re: Ebay Adyen
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 997345)
No, but LLC accounts are possible and you can make as many LLC's as you desire.


The only info I've seen from eBay regarding the matter is that they "hope to have everybody transitioned by 2023".



Going by what eBay says I would guess Paypal will still be a seller option for non-US/non-EU Paypals until at least 2023. When they are done, eBay managed payments will be the only option for all sellers in all countries. Paypal will only be an option for buyers to use, and if it's used the payment would go into your managed payments account.

What's LLC?

ebaystealth1974 04-25-2019 04:38 PM

Re: Ebay Adyen
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bhuzz (Post 997455)
What's LLC?

Something we have in America.

SaiJin 04-25-2019 06:00 PM

Re: Ebay Adyen
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bhuzz (Post 997455)
What's LLC?

Limited Liability Corporation. It's a type of business and tax bracket you can put your business under in USA.

It's not edible

glacier922 04-25-2019 10:19 PM

Re: Ebay Adyen
 
Hopefully it’ll never work. It looks like a disaster even at this moment.

phaz0rz 04-26-2019 06:22 AM

Re: Ebay Adyen
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by glacier922 (Post 997523)
Hopefully it’ll never work. It looks like a disaster even at this moment.

The few times I've checked out from sellers using it, it was super smooth and I loved it TBH. :noidea:

Leader2dark 04-26-2019 06:43 AM

Re: Ebay Adyen
 
Yeah, Adyen is coming sooner rather than later. It's a big promise they made to their shareholders. No going back now.

agent006140 04-26-2019 08:25 AM

Re: Ebay Adyen
 
how does it work with dispute?
now if buyer loses a dispute on Ebay,they go to Paypal,if they lose with Paypal,they go to their credit card issuer.
so with Ayden,has it changed?

phaz0rz 04-26-2019 08:45 AM

Re: Ebay Adyen
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 997647)
how does it work with dispute?
now if buyer loses a dispute on Ebay,they go to Paypal,if they lose with Paypal,they go to their credit card issuer.
so with Ayden,has it changed?


It has to. Paypal disputes will no longer be an option unless the buyer has paid with their Paypal account through the Adyen interface, I would assume.

So I guess for buyers it will be eBay dispute or chargeback, rather than eBay dispute -> Paypal dispute -> chargeback. Less battles for scammer sellers to fight.

ebaystealth1974 04-26-2019 09:20 AM

Re: Ebay Adyen
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by glacier922 (Post 997523)
Hopefully it’ll never work. It looks like a disaster even at this moment.


Works perfect on Etsy.

agent006140 04-26-2019 04:22 PM

Re: Ebay Adyen
 
Etsy/Ayden account-
Unlike Paypal which swears it would not access our bank account and withdraw fund ,Etsy can.
Years ago,I bought several pieces of jewelry from a scammer on Etsy,none of them is as described,so I file case with my credit card issuer .
I won and got my money back,then I heard from the seller ,he was livid as Etsy took the money from his bank account .

ebaystealth1974 04-26-2019 06:34 PM

Re: Ebay Adyen
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 997756)
Unlike Paypal which swears it would not access our bank account and withdraw fund ,Etsy can.

What rock you been living under? Don't think for one second that PP won't snatch money out of your bank account if they deem it necessary!

I transfer money out of that linked bank account into another one, just in case the shiit hits the fan one day. :thumb:

agent006140 04-26-2019 06:57 PM

Re: Ebay Adyen
 
well,at one time,Paypal said they wont ,now they said they will.?
well,more power to them!
But moving your fund to another bank account,your pAYPAL account turns negative,you still have to deal with a negative balance.

degsey69 04-26-2019 08:38 PM

Re: Ebay Adyen
 
I have the account my PayPal pays into with no overdraft and I transfer to another straight away when the money goes in so if they try to do a snatch back for what ever reason they will not get it and the worse case I can get is a bank fee for refused payment.

agent006140 04-27-2019 07:03 AM

Re: Ebay Adyen
 
I dont mean your bank,I mean Paypal,if Paypal is trying t claw back what it deposits in your bank account,there must be a reason why,and it would be a buyer filed a dispute or chargeback,or a payment you received is no good.
When your Paypal account turns negative,it will ask you to transfer fund to make it neutral or your future payments coming into your account would be used to bring it to neutral or it will sell what you owed to a collection agency.and you would not be able to use that account anymore.

ebaystealth1974 04-27-2019 09:36 AM

Re: Ebay Adyen
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 997775)
But moving your fund to another bank account,your pAYPAL account turns negative,you still have to deal with a negative balance.

So, you'd rather be out of thousands of dollars than to have to deal with a negative PP balance? :lol:

Not this cowboy!

It doesn't happen often, but I'm not a gambling man.

agent006140 04-27-2019 09:51 AM

Re: Ebay Adyen
 
so you want someone to eat your loss,it is your sales .

phaz0rz 04-27-2019 12:51 PM

Re: Ebay Adyen
 
WTF guys? There's no need to transfer money immediately from one bank account to another. Y'all are just going to get your bank account that you're using for PP withdrawals closed by the bank. Banks hate seeing money frequently coming in and going right back out. It's how I lost my BoA accounts years ago. I thought I was being slick by withdrawing all but about $500 from those accounts within 24 hours but I was actually just shooting myself in the foot - they closed all 4 of my accounts with them within 6 months.

What you guys are doing looks sketchy to begin with plus you never maintain a balance so the bank never gets to make loans backed by your balance. Is your business really so shady that you're worried about Paypal having to drain your bank account to send a refund you didn't send on your own? Come on guys.. just be responsible. They aren't going to steal all of your money.

bman707 04-27-2019 01:46 PM

Re: Ebay Adyen
 
Right people that run business right aren’t worried like that I have money just sitting in my Paypal because I’m not worried of chargebacks etc I’m confident in my products and I run a business like it should probably why I have had this ebay going for the last 8 years if your not ripping people off then there’s no reason to be so paranoid

agent006140 04-27-2019 02:49 PM

Re: Ebay Adyen
 
In some cases,they are just scammed and refused to face up to the loss.
There is no seller protection to item not as described or someone returned a rock instead of a 3k diamond ring.
Paypal and Ebay will side with the buyer and make the seller eats the loss,seller just feel very unfair.
Hence the saying Dont sell anything you cant afford to lose

ebaystealth1974 04-27-2019 03:59 PM

Re: Ebay Adyen
 
And two more things...

1. Clearly, you guys have never seen the horror stories of PP reversing THOUSAND AND THOUSANDS of dollars worth of transactions from a persons account, based on some bullshiit reason they have dreamed up. Come on, it's paypal we're talking about here lol

2. Most banks allow you to set up sweeping accounts. Just like how we can sweep our PP accounts daily, banks will allow you to sweep all checking accounts into one savings account.

I don't take chances when it comes to my hard earned cash!:yar:

ebaystealth1974 04-27-2019 04:04 PM

Re: Ebay Adyen
 
My previous post seems to have disappeared... maybe it's the server updates that are happening right now. Here's what it said...

Quote:

Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 997948)
I thought I was being slick by withdrawing all but about $500 from those accounts within 24 hours but I was actually just shooting myself in the foot - they closed all 4 of my accounts with them within 6 months.

I've been banking with BoA for almost as long as you've been alive. They aren't giving me the boot anytime soon lol

agent006140 04-27-2019 05:07 PM

Re: Ebay Adyen
 
It is fine if you sweep from checking to saving and vice versa within the same bank.

supernova 04-27-2019 10:36 PM

Re: Ebay Adyen
 
Adyen seems to me like a dream that will never materialize :(

agent006140 04-28-2019 07:50 AM

Re: Ebay Adyen
 
I am happy with Paypal,I used to use its debit card to get 1 1/2% cash rebate,but now I have found a better card,but Paypal is fine with me,I have fund now so no hold despite chargeback or dispute which I rarely get.
questions-I know some sellers like Paypal so they can hide their income from the govt or spouse,with Ayden,the sales proceeds would go to their bank account,I see there will be a problem if they are collecting SS or SS disabilities?

Leader2dark 04-28-2019 09:14 AM

Re: Ebay Adyen
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by supernova (Post 998008)
Adyen seems to me like a dream that will never materialize :(

A dream? You do know they require SSN and DOB etc....unlike PayPal..

Lucynda 04-29-2019 11:00 AM

Re: Ebay Adyen
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Leader2dark (Post 997344)
I would like more info on if stealth is even possible with Adyen....

I have a stealth account with Ayden. I set it up with an EINIt's under an EIN with a business checking and an LLC. So far all I've had to send them is a photo of a voided check. I may have to send them ⊗⊗⊗⊗ copies of my LLC paperwork and a photo ID later. I'm making sure I'm prepared for that just in case, but I haven't had to yet.

Lucynda 04-29-2019 11:06 AM

Re: Ebay Adyen
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Leader2dark (Post 998088)
A dream? You do know they require SSN and DOB etc....unlike PayPal..

Do you know Papal id now requiring a social security number?

You can use an EIN and the last 4 of the Social, and a made-up DOB just like the way we used to set up a PayPal business account.


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