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Leader2dark 08-10-2019 11:57 AM

eBay is removing prohibited items much more quickly now.
 
I am seeing this all across eBay. From copyright violations to prohibited items, Ebay is shutting down these listings much more quickly than before.

I went to buy a nice looking CLA Benchmade push-button automatic knife this morning(Legal in my and sellers state). My offer was accepted and I went to pay. The item was removed from the site before I could pay. Very annoying.

https://imgur.com/Kdttz6r


If this keeps up, the demand for a less strictly regulated market place will only grow. Before eBay kinda filed that spot to an extent. You could find the strange and sometimes questionable items. Not so much anymore.

Also, I would like to add the manner in which eBay removes these items is so stupid. Kinda goes with the whole eBay theme of being a clearly 90s area website, bootstrapped to work in the modern age(Just look at some of bizzair settings and account menus). Anyway, the listing can't be found if you click on it and takes you to ebay's home page or some crap. But you can still see it on other pages. Also, the pictures get removed, even when you can still see the listing from your purchase page. The entire process is not well thought out. Also it shows a paypal transaction link, even though you never even paid.

Finally eBay still wants me to pay for the item and reminds me to do so. Even though I can't. Talk about retarded.

Kajunrook 08-10-2019 05:13 PM

Re: eBay is removing prohibited items much more quickly now.
 
Definitely are, also getting items taken down for "counterfeit" and also got an ebay permanently suspended for selling "counterfeit".

walkingupwards 08-11-2019 08:00 AM

Re: eBay is removing prohibited items much more quickly now.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kajunrook (Post 1025581)
Definitely are, also getting items taken down for "counterfeit" and also got an ebay permanently suspended for selling "counterfeit".



You mean items are being taken down by eBay itself or because of Vero?

nickopedia 08-11-2019 08:30 AM

Re: eBay is removing prohibited items much more quickly now.
 
I agree, myself and a few other sellers who I regularly keep in contact with are noticing this.

This has nothing to do with VeRO. These are item removals for "prohibited item" or "policy violations".

Items removed simply because they claim some "violation" of policy. It doesn't matter who the seller is, how strong the account, even if the item is 100% legitimate. eBay doesn't care and will remove. Some brands/items simply cannot be listed at all, period.

walkingupwards 08-11-2019 08:34 AM

Re: eBay is removing prohibited items much more quickly now.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nickopedia (Post 1025652)
I agree, myself and a few other sellers who I regularly keep in contact with are noticing this.

This has nothing to do with VeRO. These are item removals for "prohibited item" or "policy violations".

Items removed simply because they claim some "violation" of policy. It doesn't matter who the seller is, how strong the account, even if the item is 100% legitimate. eBay doesn't care and will remove. Some brands/items simply cannot be listed at all, period.



Clear. At first I thought they are going after "counterfeit" items right and left :deadhorse:

If eBay is to remove counterfeit items by itself and not by Vero, then I guess its revenue would be slashed by at least 10%.

nickopedia 08-11-2019 08:40 AM

Re: eBay is removing prohibited items much more quickly now.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by walkingupwards (Post 1025653)
Clear. At first I thought they are going after "counterfeit" items right and left :deadhorse:

If eBay is to remove counterfeit items by itself and not by Vero, then I guess its revenue would be slashed by at least 10%.

They sometimes claim the item listed is counterfeit when it's not.

I myself have this problem all the time especially in the Collectibles>Coins and >Apparel categories. There are some items I simply cannot list without having it pulled down from the site usually within 12 hours of posting. I also monitor other sellers posting those same items and also see they disappear in the same time frame.

Calling them will always result in the same spiel about the item being counterfeit, or because the manufacturer does not allow it.

I have a feeling eBay only allows some items to be sold if you have written, verifiable permission from the manufacturer or supplier. This is similar to how things work on Amazon with their "un-gating" approvals process.

rsot 08-11-2019 09:26 AM

Re: eBay is removing prohibited items much more quickly now.
 
Those are quite problematic categories - heavily flagged in general

walkingupwards 08-11-2019 10:11 AM

Re: eBay is removing prohibited items much more quickly now.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 1025673)
- eBay cracks down on weapons (apparently)
- Apollon market announces yesterday or the day before that they removed the entire armory section (weapons) from their market and will ban any sellers who try to sell them now

Possibly related?



I don't think these removals have anything to do with the gun thing. I think it is related to Trump's order a while back with regard to fighting counterfeits being sold on Alibaba, Amazon and eBay.


https://www.reuters.com/article/usa-...-idUSL1N21L0LT

phaz0rz 08-11-2019 10:14 AM

Re: eBay is removing prohibited items much more quickly now.
 
I hear you. I just found it odd that eBay's crackdown on this (potential) weapon OP was trying to buy happened at almost exactly the same time as a major dark net market started prohibiting weapon trading. Maybe I'm schizophrenic and I'm making correlations where there are none but for some reason I doubt it.. :P

Leader2dark 08-11-2019 10:42 AM

Re: eBay is removing prohibited items much more quickly now.
 
I just used the knife example because its something I directly bought and was removed.

I am seeing removals across the board with my selling accounts. This is eBay directly taking down items. So far I have not seen any bans, though one account got a 7 day new listing block.

SaiJin 08-11-2019 11:09 AM

Re: eBay is removing prohibited items much more quickly now.
 
I listed a bulk of PEN . . . yes, PENS and mine got taken down for trademark violation, NO vero info nothing.

This is not even a branded pen, the owner is me. I just made some pens for my business.

I think the summer heat is boiling eBay's brains

nickopedia 08-11-2019 11:14 AM

Re: eBay is removing prohibited items much more quickly now.
 
Some of my items (even in the same category) never get removed.

What's even more bizarre is I have one branded wallet item I sell in three different color styles. Only one of those colors "cappuccino" gets removed, but the other two don't.
This is the EXACT same item, just that eBay doesn't like the cappuccino wallet.

SaiJin 08-11-2019 11:17 AM

Re: eBay is removing prohibited items much more quickly now.
 
I think it's because they haven't gotten to it yet... or they'll never get to the others

I doubt it's about the color.

walkingupwards 08-11-2019 11:32 AM

Re: eBay is removing prohibited items much more quickly now.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 1025684)
I hear you. I just found it odd that eBay's crackdown on this (potential) weapon OP was trying to buy happened at almost exactly the same time as a major dark net market started prohibiting weapon trading. Maybe I'm schizophrenic and I'm making correlations where there are none but for some reason I doubt it.. :P


All operators of online marketplaces want to avoid bad attention so it wouldn't surprise me if these were correlated.

The war on guns is as real as the sun and America is the last country on the face of this earth where people still have some limited control over the "ruling" government.

Let's see how this plays out in the future :pop2:

SaiJin 08-11-2019 11:33 AM

Re: eBay is removing prohibited items much more quickly now.
 
weapons, foods, health stuff etc will always be looked at .

These are the things I really stay away from.

mediainspiron 08-11-2019 01:07 PM

Re: eBay is removing prohibited items much more quickly now.
 
Quick Question... what if we call eb ay in advance and tell them what name brands we plan to sell? will they then let us list without suspension?

nickopedia 08-12-2019 01:13 AM

Re: eBay is removing prohibited items much more quickly now.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mediainspiron (Post 1025734)
Quick Question... what if we call eb ay in advance and tell them what name brands we plan to sell? will they then let us list without suspension?

What I can tell you there are just some items that CAN NOT be listed by any normal eBay seller. eBay will not allow it even if you offer to send them written permission from the distributor or manufacturer. I once called in to offer them such, and the rep flat out told me those items can't be listed. Only some large companies (such as big box stores) can list those same items.

Even Powersellers or TRS accounts get those items pulled if they dare list. I've seen it happen many times.

james13v 08-12-2019 06:13 AM

Re: eBay is removing prohibited items much more quickly now.
 
I've been reporting counterfeits a lot. THey never do anything about them...

walkingupwards 08-12-2019 09:42 AM

Re: eBay is removing prohibited items much more quickly now.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by james13v (Post 1025876)
I've been reporting counterfeits a lot. THey never do anything about them...


You mean reporting counterfeits to eBay?

nickopedia 08-12-2019 09:55 AM

Re: eBay is removing prohibited items much more quickly now.
 
I never could understand those types of people who spend their time reporting anyone for anything. Why? Do they think they are the internet police?

This reminds of of this guy on eBay who had been harassing sellers of one particular collectible for years. He would message EVERY seller listing those items threatening to report to eBay. This clown would even bid on those items, not pay just to leave negative feedback. He did this with dozens of sellers in this one category over the period of nearly 3 years.

Eventually myself and other sellers got together and gathered just enough info about this guy; several of us flooded eBay with complaints, had stealth accounts created with his same info (obtained from the buyer details shared from sellers) and other things I can't mention here.

It took a few months, but we eventually were able to get this idiot kicked off (his account went NARU) and he was never seen again.

james13v 08-12-2019 09:58 AM

Re: eBay is removing prohibited items much more quickly now.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by walkingupwards (Post 1025941)
You mean reporting counterfeits to eBay?

Yes. I buy quite a lot, and in my specific industry, ebay is just flooded with ⊗⊗⊗⊗. And they don't seem to care very much about them.

agent006140 08-12-2019 11:21 AM

Re: eBay is removing prohibited items much more quickly now.
 
it is not they dont care,but they just cant stop them from listing.
you know free listing,100 ,200 if not enough,just ask !

james13v 08-12-2019 02:50 PM

Re: eBay is removing prohibited items much more quickly now.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 1025976)
it is not they dont care,but they just cant stop them from listing.
you know free listing,100 ,200 if not enough,just ask !

I tracked it for 3 months. I reported 100 listings. Blatantly ⊗⊗⊗⊗ high end products. I rechecked every month and reported the listing again. 3 months later, not a single one removed. My account is a big account too, so it's not like I was just some schlub off the street.

Leader2dark 08-12-2019 03:08 PM

Re: eBay is removing prohibited items much more quickly now.
 
The eBay report function does nothing as far as I could ever tell. Even reporting with multiple accounts, I never got anyone removed.

SaiJin 08-12-2019 03:42 PM

Re: eBay is removing prohibited items much more quickly now.
 
as much as I understand about the counterfeit stuff, you both seem to have a lot of time on your hands.

Just be careful you don't report the wrong person

james13v 08-12-2019 04:03 PM

Re: eBay is removing prohibited items much more quickly now.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SaiJin (Post 1026052)
as much as I understand about the counterfeit stuff, you both seem to have a lot of time on your hands.

Just be careful you don't report the wrong person

:pound::pound::pound::pound: yeah, because they will know it was me out of the millions of other ebay users LOL.....


And this is my business. It's my industry. I spend hours on ebay every day searching and BUYING inventory. I'm sorry if taking time to report the counterfeits that comprise half my search results, bothers you so much. It doesn't take much time, and is done while I'm conducting my business, which is searching on ebay.

The lady doth protest too much, methinks

SaiJin 08-12-2019 04:08 PM

Re: eBay is removing prohibited items much more quickly now.
 
Those who always think they are right may harm innocent people thus I mentioned :"Becareful youdon't report the wrong person" meaning innocent people.
This comes to show your way of thinking is :"I don't mind hurting people because I can get away with it".

methinks

=)

james13v 08-12-2019 09:48 PM

Re: eBay is removing prohibited items much more quickly now.
 
eh, lol sure sounded like you meant don't report the "wrong" person, as in the one that I'll pay the price for. Trust me, I don't report innocent people. Ever. I am 100% sure every single time. The amount of ⊗⊗⊗⊗ I MISS, is staggering. If I label something ⊗⊗⊗⊗, I KNOW it's ⊗⊗⊗⊗. I can't always tell when a ⊗⊗⊗⊗ is ⊗⊗⊗⊗, such as the example I just got in the mail. $400. It looks sooo real. A layman would have been fooled by this for years. I'm both impressed, and very scared, that they have gotten this good. I never understood why they always make little mistakes. Almost like it's on purpose. Why can't they ever truly duplicate something?

nickopedia 08-12-2019 10:32 PM

Re: eBay is removing prohibited items much more quickly now.
 
There are ⊗⊗⊗⊗ (phony) items that are just as good as the original.
For example there are some types of high end timepieces that are so good, not only are jewelers fooled, but even the authorized resellers. There is one category I deal in that has items indistinguishable from the original. That item does come from China and it's scary to think they have gotten that good.

Although I share your concern about ⊗⊗⊗⊗ in your supply chain, this is a worldwide problem. I'm also concerned by the number of counterfeits in the categories I sell in as it creates problems for legitimate sellers as a whole.

Unfortunately eBay receives tens of thousands of reports on items per day, and they can't possibly remove them all. It's just not possible as they don't have the manpower to do so. In matters where eBay has been given legal notice (such as Notice of Infringement/Copyright) under their VeRO program, they are legally required to act. Not doing so would make them complicit of a far more serious activity if they didn't do so.

james13v 08-13-2019 09:07 AM

Re: eBay is removing prohibited items much more quickly now.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nickopedia (Post 1026120)
There are ⊗⊗⊗⊗ (phony) items that are just as good as the original.
For example there are some types of high end timepieces that are so good, not only are jewelers fooled, but even the authorized resellers. There is one category I deal in that has items indistinguishable from the original. That item does come from China and it's scary to think they have gotten that good.

Although I share your concern about ⊗⊗⊗⊗ in your supply chain, this is a worldwide problem. I'm also concerned by the number of counterfeits in the categories I sell in as it creates problems for legitimate sellers as a whole.

Unfortunately eBay receives tens of thousands of reports on items per day, and they can't possibly remove them all. It's just not possible as they don't have the manpower to do so. In matters where eBay has been given legal notice (such as Notice of Infringement/Copyright) under their VeRO program, they are legally required to act. Not doing so would make them complicit of a far more serious activity if they didn't do so.

that's actually what I'm talking about... Tag heuer, to be exact. This one seller has sold a ton of them, apparently. REAL Swiss movement... If you brought this to a watch maker, to get the battery changed, they wouldn't be able to tell you it's ⊗⊗⊗⊗. I'm an expert, and it took even me awhile to figure out. Little details here and there were off. The easy one, was removing the bezel. They didn't bother doing the standard click mechanism. Kept it old school like from the 70's and 80's with the click wire, rather than a flat click ring.


EBAY LINKS. Beware.

check this guy out.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/TAG-HEUER-L...YAAOSwkl9dTq3Y


It's scary real. Only if you're a dealer, that handles this specific model, often enough, would you be able to tell from the outside, or even if you open the case. As you said, even dealers can be fooled.

Leader2dark 08-13-2019 09:18 AM

Re: eBay is removing prohibited items much more quickly now.
 
The guy does not seem to be selling much stuff...

No point to argue over who anyone bothers to report. The report function on eBay does absolutely nothing. If an item is taken down, it has nothing to do with a normal user report.

Vero / Rightsholder reports are a different situation.

nickopedia 08-13-2019 09:38 AM

Re: eBay is removing prohibited items much more quickly now.
 
The report button on eBay is more of a placebo than anything else. Just like crosswalk buttons at a light, the close door button on elevators, etc. You can "report" all you like, it's unlikely to result in anything being done. I speak from experience.

ebaystealth1974 08-13-2019 11:12 AM

Re: eBay is removing prohibited items much more quickly now.
 
The "close door" button always works for me. :confused:

james13v 08-13-2019 02:26 PM

Re: eBay is removing prohibited items much more quickly now.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nickopedia (Post 1026230)
The report button on eBay is more of a placebo than anything else. Just like crosswalk buttons at a light, the close door button on elevators, etc. You can "report" all you like, it's unlikely to result in anything being done. I speak from experience.

Umm. Cross walk buttons DO work. Some are placebos. Some traffic lights stay on almost continuously, until a button is pressed to make them aware that someone is crossing, especially intersections that have sensors to alert if there are cars waiting coming from the other direction. If there isn't, the light stays green, until a car is there, or the cross walk button is pressed. Elevator buttons, in many cases, are meant to be used by the person that has the KEY. They are not meant to be a placebo, just because people are ignorant of their function. There ARE situations of all those things, and even office thermostats, that are meant to be ⊗⊗⊗⊗, but they are the exception, and not the rule.

So does the report button work? You can't say it doesn't. We just don't know the parameters. How many different people have to report it before it's flagged? We don't know. I just don't think they are about individual reports. Someone told me before that they were part of some expert program, that ebay had, that gave their reports more credence, even if they are the only ones to report it. But hell if any of us actually know what the hell ebay does or doesn't do lol . This whole forum is just guessing and wishing and hoping. We could be all taking placebos

james13v 08-13-2019 02:29 PM

Re: eBay is removing prohibited items much more quickly now.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Leader2dark (Post 1026226)
The guy does not seem to be selling much stuff...

No point to argue over who anyone bothers to report. The report function on eBay does absolutely nothing. If an item is taken down, it has nothing to do with a normal user report.

Vero / Rightsholder reports are a different situation.

are you referring to my post? Because, he's selling $1000's worth of ⊗⊗⊗⊗. On this account alone. Who knows how many other accounts he has. He could be on this forum for all I know, buying dozens of accounts to sell his stuff. He could be you, for all we know ;)

He's ripped off dozens of people out of $100's. And based on his feedback, no one is the wiser. He just got unlucky that he sold to an expert. Or a fool. Guess it's all relative...

Leader2dark 08-13-2019 03:41 PM

Re: eBay is removing prohibited items much more quickly now.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by james13v (Post 1026307)
are you referring to my post? Because, he's selling $1000's worth of ⊗⊗⊗⊗. On this account alone. Who knows how many other accounts he has. He could be on this forum for all I know, buying dozens of accounts to sell his stuff. He could be you, for all we know ;)

He's ripped off dozens of people out of $100's. And based on his feedback, no one is the wiser. He just got unlucky that he sold to an expert. Or a fool. Guess it's all relative...

This guy you linked is not selling 1000s WTF you talking about?

https://www.ebay.com/usr/fastbeat0?_...p2047675.l2559

james13v 08-13-2019 04:00 PM

Re: eBay is removing prohibited items much more quickly now.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Leader2dark (Post 1026332)
This guy you linked is not selling 1000s WTF you talking about?

https://www.ebay.com/usr/fastbeat0?_...p2047675.l2559

wtf YOU talking about. In his sold alone, he's made $7200. And that's just from the past 16 days!!! He has sold an average of $450 PER DAY. Looks like every 6 months, he goes at it, and then takes a break.

james13v 08-13-2019 05:30 PM

Re: eBay is removing prohibited items much more quickly now.
 
same with this guy. Pretty sure it's the same guy actually .
https://www.ebay.com/sch/watchcompan...p2047675.l2562

He has the same kind of watches.
Tag 1000
Tag Link, specifically the WJ series.
Tag Formula 1
aquaracer WAF series.
and Longines conquests.
and omega quartz

And this guy sells in the $10,000's....., if not $100k+ in just the past 2 months.

james13v 08-14-2019 08:40 AM

Re: eBay is removing prohibited items much more quickly now.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Leader2dark (Post 1026332)
This guy you linked is not selling 1000s WTF you talking about?

https://www.ebay.com/usr/fastbeat0?_...p2047675.l2559

So are we going to discuss "WTF I'm talking about", after you tried calling me out?
By the way.
I found yet another seller, selling the same few types of watches. Another by the way. YOu have to press "worldwide" under item location. So this is a straight up international conspiracy now. Croatia. UK, and now germany.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/tradenvint/...c&LH_PrefLoc=2

nickopedia 08-14-2019 12:03 PM

Re: eBay is removing prohibited items much more quickly now.
 
It all comes down to the ability to spot these foo-foo items based on a photo, or some clue(s) in the listing. It takes someone intimately familiar with those items to make that determination.

As mentioned above regarding the timepieces, there are some really REALLY high end stuff out there that fools even industry insiders who handle them every day. I don't sell watches, but quite familiar with some other classes of collectibles such as Numismatics (coins) and Philately (stamps). In this field, there are some items that are literally 1:1 copies of the original; they can fool the experts at the certification houses. That's how far things have gotten now, and are getting even better with the rapid advancement in precision metallurgy, electroplating, and printing.

eBay is just not allowing the most common items they believe to be the most counterfeited by just anyone. Hence, there is a list if such items they will remove no matter if they are truly authentic. Since eBay can't tell the difference either, they err on the side of caution and just remove them anyway.


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