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What is Vero? Please Read!
 

The Verified Rights Owner (VeRO) Programme lets intellectual property rights owners request the removal of listings on eBay that offer items or contain materials that infringe on their rights.

^^^ straight from ebay

Vero does not mean F@ke!!!

Get this right people. If you use this term wrong, expect to get the wrong answer.

like academic ver. or oem under VeRO ?

You are 100% correct.
If company ABC does not want their items sold on eBay all they have to do is ask eBay to remove item# 1234567890.
It does not mean that the item is a counterfeit item.
It means that company ABC does not want YOU selling their product.
This is why some people complain when truly Authentic items are removed from eBay under the VERO umbrella.
This happens ALL the time.

good topic for a sticky philly387 :thumb:

I know I originally thought it meant genuine or knockoff, but I have learned the true meaning since being a member here.

So far, that makes 4 of us who confess the truth. Let us burn at the stake.

ROFLMAO

VERO can be counterfeit or ⊗⊗⊗⊗, but they don't remove because of the latter.

VEro can be authentic according to ebay..lol

That's correct. Do you know what VeRO means?

So WTF EBAY wanting these issue to go ahead n ahead??I mean 90% of item over the world come with a brand.So if in case,just in case.1 day all these companies told ebay "don't allow our item on your site without our permission!" then EBAY going to shut down or what???VERO is like bullxxxt man...EBAY have to make a certain ruleable policy to cover everybody..Especailly those selling authntics..Its a free world.You can even sell it on street as long as you are legal.Why not on EBAY?? If they keep adding brand lists up then the sellers will be less n less.. Finally the biggest victim is themself???Do they want to be a brand store that only allow those "direct companies" to do business??Thats not what ebay created for and standing for??It just an internet flea market as long as I understood about EBAY's history..

SO which one is better?, selling Vero items or Knockoff items Which one make more money than the other!?

Selling VERO items is much better than knockoff items.

Knockoff items = completely illegal.

VERO items = Might get taken down, not illegal to sell.

So...does anyone happen to know if the dvd sets sold at dhgate.com are bootleg or simply VERO?

odds say they are ⊗⊗⊗⊗.

There is authentic Vero and there is ⊗⊗⊗⊗ Vero. No in between.

The VERO program exists because of the digital millenium act that ebay must follow according to the law. They MUST conform to this since it is the law. VERO is easy to squash, just keep receipts for your items, if you get it pulled by VERO, ask ebay for the VERO's direct contact email (if you're a powerseller, they'll call you directly if you get a VERO, you can ask for the vero members contact info there) Most VERO just don't want their items being counterfeited and they're trying to protect their rights. VERO like Disney are agressive because there's so much going on there. I've had VERO pulled on me for items with stock images. There's absolutley nothing for them to go by except for randomly grabbing one of the listings out of the "herd" so to speak. So I send an email telling them I understand their interest in protecting their rights, however I purchased this item at "xxxxxx" and here's a picture of the reciept. And that usually gets' it fixed right away. They inform ebay and the violation is removed from your account. You still have to take that tutorial you get after an MC019, but your record is clean.

If you do successfully win the vero, DON'T start listing their stuff again, they'll watch you to see if you start listing their stuff in bulk, then you can't proceed with a reciept excuse anymore. Another very agressive VERO is Beachbody, don't sell the P90x on Ebay because it'll bring heat on you real quick, and don't buy that product expecting to sell it on Amazon either, Beachbody doesn't want anyone other than Amazon, themselves and a few featured merchants carrying that item, and Amazon will block it on you eventually, then you'll be stuck holding the bag on a bunch of merchandise that you can only sell through craigslist.

Thanks for posting this. I was another user who was under the misconception that VeRO items and ⊗⊗⊗⊗ items were supposed to be the same thing. Interesting read.

Actually vero has become a slang word for ⊗⊗⊗⊗ on this site, knock off is a bad look alike without the name or tradmark, ⊗⊗⊗⊗ is a good or bad look alike with the name or tradmark, the stuff that gets you busted and the original meaning of vero is given above.

Ok thanks:
 

Hi,

Thanks for your review.

Thanks

I listed a popular item on Ebay and it was pulled down for VERO. I listed it again a week later under another stealth account and BAM, it's pulled down again - VERO. This identical item is being sold every day by at least 60 different sellers and making a huge profit. Why are my listings taken down and others go on and on daily? Pics were two different pics, different backgrounds, items were rearranged and taken with my camera. Other sellers use stock photos as well as their own photos and get away with it. What's up with that and how can I get my listings to stay? One was BUY NOW and one was auction. Any ideas?

Some items they don't like you to sell unless you have more established selling history of related items.

Thanks for the info. I also have a older account that is a legit account, just not in my name. It belonged to a relative and they don't do Ebay anymore so I'm using that account. It's about three years old and I don't want to risk getting it suspended or getting VERO warnings, but I did sell a couple items on that account, just listing one item a week, and had no problems.

Do you think it's safe to sell one or two items a week on the older account? Since it's older and has good feedback, Ebay will leave me alone?

IP address is the problem
 

Soon or later if you are using the same IP address on another account, I will be suspended for this reason: the account is suspended because it was related to another account that was suspended.
So you should change the IP address before start using new account.

:pound: Thanks thanhho93!

I've received vero hits many, many times on the same account with real info for using copyright images in other products. I would just lay low for a little while and then move on to something else.

Falken's Post above is 100% accutate
You Must remember that VERO is an Ebay PROGRAM designed to to allow Companies to protect their products. This means ANYTHING can be VERO including the pictures and/or TEXT in your Ads, Depends where you got them.

Some companies simply DO NOT want there products on Ebay.
These are normally Hi End, very expensive products. Most Companies want to make sure
that the items (or CERTAIN company items) are legit.

Whenever you get a VERO Voilation form Ebay, you should also be contacted by a representative from the Company (sometimes Trademark Infrigment/Copyright Lawyers).
If Not, Ask Ebay for the VERO Members contact info, and contact them. You will most likely (Depending on the item) have to provide actual photos, bills, recipts, ect,ect. Once they are satisified Ebay will clear your account. If you want to continue to sell the item it is always best to prove that you purchased it in bulk from an Authorized Company Distributor/Wholesaler/Representative, and Ask THEM, not EBAY if can or can't
continue to sell the item, they will tell you what you need to do.

As for the Hi End items, U.S. Law changes DRAMATICALLY if the item is Used, Like New, whatever, as long as the item is NOT being sold to someone who believes (in ANY way) that He/She will be the first INDIVIDUAL owner. You may still have a VERO problem, but FAR less likely. In this case you will have to give up some profits, and be VERY, VERY careful how often you list these items.

I have had a lot of personal experience with all of these issues over the years.

There is a LOT, LOT more to this, Do your HOMEWORK on the products you want to sell.

If you have any Questions, reach out for me, If I can help, I will.

Hey all .. I am new to this forum please give clues teaching.

Today I have received in from ebay:attention:
What should I do to save my acc?


Your selling privileges have been temporarily restricted because of a recent policy violation. You won't be able to list new items for thirty (30) days. You're also not allowed to register a new account during this time.

Please be assured that your account has *not* been suspended. At this time, you still have full account access. You can continue to:

- Send email
- Obtain shipping addresses
- Leave Feedback
- Perform other administrative tasks

Your account will no longer be restricted after 30 days.

I've been vero-ed by ebay too. Twice. in 2 weeks.

I should have seen aspkin.com a long time ago.

They just hit me with a Vero Violation... But the thing is it was a sold item and the listing has been finished for 2 months now. :noidea: It was in my archive and i didn't even know what in the world they were talking about. Are they going to do this too all of my archive listings that i sold already. I haven't had any new listings on that account for about 2 weeks.

Just be cool for the 30 days, and DO NOT sell whatever it is that got you in this mess in the first Place, also AVOID selling any VERO Items.

Thanks a lot friend .. hope I can learn a lot more in this forum:yar:

Well said well said

Good information.

Thanks for the info!

Does anybody know where to find the complete list of VERO items? I don't want my early auction listings on 0 feedback accounts to be removed

There is no list of VERO Items, on Ebay however you can Find a List of VERO Members,

If your item(s) gets taken down due to a VERO violation

Does your ebay account get suspended?

At some point, Depending on how many Violations you have in a Particular time frame

wtf is ⊗⊗⊗⊗ ??!?!?! And why if VeRO doesnt mean counterfit Ebay makes you do a TUTORIAL about selling ⊗⊗⊗⊗?

⊗⊗⊗⊗ LOL - i get it now.... but why?

It is a test to see if you belong on this Forum. :redface:

Vero hit me with skull candy headphones I was selling. The items were 100% legit and I contacted vero about it. They always leave contact info. After not hearing anything I spoke to online ebay rep and told her I wanted to file a counter notice. She seemed a bit shocked, but agreed and stated just copy and past the filled-out report to the original vero removal and hit reply. Within a day I was contacted by the marketing director of skull candy and he wanted proof. I over did it by sending him 15 angles of the authentic item and 3 invoices from Best Buy at below wholesale rate.

The next day I left messages on his voice mail. Don't let these bullies bully you!

Third day he actually had the guts to say that the price I paid makes it seem even more suspicious that they are ⊗⊗⊗⊗ and that he would contact best buy.

I simply returned that it is his right however I have already filed a counter notice and he has 7 days remaining.

After this the email was kinda nice. Something about being patient and protecting products.

The fourth day I got an email from ebay. Stated they got the Counter notice however it should have been faxed or mailed. Although they decided to accept it anyway and forward it to Vero - skull candy, and since I was instructed to do it this way and if they do not respond within the 10 alloted days my listing will be put back up and my violation removed. unless Skull candy files in court to stop it..

Well its been a about 7 days now the weekend. I expect to hear something by Monday.

I had this with snuggies once and they were nive noughto inquire first without removing listings. I sell $6000-$7000 a month. When I was selling a couple hundred they wouldnt even look at me.