Impossible Launching Stealths These Days?

[djbuyer80]

Originally Posted by SaiJin

Just made 2 accounts for a friend 2 weeks ago. Same method:

dedicated windows user acc
Residential IP
Firefox browser
No selling vero

so far everything is fine still.

Are they selling on the account? How many listings?

[HurricaneHuntr]

The real problem is mc011 if you start selling a lot, they hammer you.

[LEARNINGONLY]

Originally Posted by Moscutter

The real problem is mc011 if you start selling a lot, they hammer you.

Get multiple accounts and keep sales real low on each.

[dropshipTHIS]

Originally Posted by LEARNINGONLY

Get multiple accounts and keep sales real low on each.

Can you give example numbers please. Amount of accounts, number of listings / sales and monetary value of sales etc.

[LEARNINGONLY]

Originally Posted by dropshipTHIS

Can you give example numbers please. Amount of accounts, number of listings / sales and monetary value of sales etc.

Depends on what kind of business model you have. For me I'm able to have less than 800 dollars in sales a month on each account. I also don't list any risky categories. In US as long as paypal doesn't think you will go over 20k or 200 transactions in a year they might not block the account. I don't know how things are going in the UK though.

My goal right now is to expand my number of accounts. I'm going to be screwed when managed payments is forced on all accounts because then I have no means of protecting my business. I just got an account suspended that I had for 3 years for some bogus policy violation that ebay would not share with me when I asked. They just deleted all my listings and said I was suspended.

Sometimes people have had this experience with ebay and their suspensions they put on people sometimes come with no reason or merit. That's why I hate how some people on this forum are so excited for managed payments with all accounts. That just means ebay owns you by the balls and knows all your accounts.

[SaiJin]

Originally Posted by dropshipTHIS

Can you give example numbers please. Amount of accounts, number of listings / sales and monetary value of sales etc.

Well, you have to figure this one out yourself.

But the basic rule is sell only very few items, get feedback, get the money released, then sell more the next week.

[mrl811]

Originally Posted by Uavmods

They suspend all or most UK new accounts now untill you contact them with info, like what you going to sell, how you are going to pay, whats the shipping time, etc

Same with canadian

[mrl811]

Originally Posted by Terminator 69

Can you please suggest or tell from whom to buy ebay accounts as i really need them.so please help a brother out fella

Anyone that's in the classifieds will be legit. Don't accept offers from messages of new users etc

[mrl811]

Mc113ssssss

Trying with residential ips now

[LEARNINGONLY]

Originally Posted by Terminator 69

Can you please suggest or tell from whom to buy ebay accounts as i really need them.so please help a brother out fella

hmm I did hear from a guy on youtube who said and I don't know if this is true, that you could create ebay accounts in real easy countries with their IP's and then just put the shipping dispatch address in your country. I heard this is what Chinese ebayers do so they can sell in the US. I don't know if that's true but maybe try it

[Ayx]

Originally Posted by Zetex2

Ebay started using fingerprint detections, so you in theory can't create 2 accounts on the same PC even if you change ip, as the canvas fingerprint and webgl fingerprint and audio fingerprint will stay the same. In pratice, people are still able to create many accounts on the same fingerprint.

First of all, lemme say that I'm not at all an expert in creating stealth for eBay or Paypal, but mastered stealth for other sensitive products (Google related).

Shouting out loud some professional words such as "audio fingerprint" is nice, but do you know what those are exactly?

Most people in the world have the same audio fingerprint, because it's based on hardware, and most people have the same amount of audio devices linked to their computer.

I'm going to give the same example I already gave on another forum concerning stealth profiles : let's say you have a gigantic pile of white rice, and you have a brown rice grain in it. Which one will be the easiest to uniquely identify? Well, the brown rice of course.

It goes the same way with fingerprints. If you try your best to make your profile look really unique, you might just be way more suspicious than thousands of normal users not spoofing their fingerprints.

WebGL is tied to your graphics card, and I doubt you simulating using an old graphics card to get a new hash won't make you more suspicious. Same goes with Canvas as it's tied to your hardware. (I think more people use a GTX 1080 or new RTX compared to old models graphics card that less and less people use).

tl;dr: It's not because some websites claim in bold titles that companies are able to track you using those fancy names metrics that they are indeed able to. The wikipedia article about Canvas Fingerprinting clearly states that this fingerprint by itself isn't enough to uniquely identify a user. Sometimes, the best way to indeed hide from others is just to blend in the mass. You really think that eBay or Paypal will start banning hundreds of thousands of users because they have the same fingerprints solely because they use Chrome on MacOS (I say MacOS here because hardwares are really similar), or use Safari on iPhone?

[rsot]

Originally Posted by Ayx

You really think that eBay or Paypal will start banning hundreds of thousands of users because they have the same fingerprints solely because they use Chrome on MacOS (I say MacOS here because hardwares are really similar), or use Safari on iPhone?

Right on - that's where the bots kind of kick in for automatic suspension though

[Soundofsilence]

Originally Posted by SaiJin

Well, you have to figure this one out yourself.

But the basic rule is sell only very few items, get feedback, get the money released, then sell more the next week.

Followed this on my stealths and I'm getting sound sleep.

1. Get sale
2. Deliver item
3. Get feedback
4. Withdraw money
5. Repeat.

[HurricaneHuntr]

it comes and goes. use all protective measures, treat ebay like a sex worker. Protect yourself from getting @@@@ by them.

[bytor3k]

Originally Posted by Moscutter

it comes and goes. use all protective measures, treat ebay like a sex worker. Protect yourself from getting @@@@ by them.

The only 100% safe eBay is no eBay...

[Ayx]

Originally Posted by rsot

Right on - that's where the bots kind of kick in for automatic suspension though

Well, a lot more people would get suspended I guess.
I think in you guys case, main things must be something about maybe building previous activity on account + high qual IP for sure.

[SaiJin]

Originally Posted by Moscutter

it comes and goes. use all protective measures, treat ebay like a sex worker. Protect yourself from getting @@@@ by them.

You got experience with them? =P

[alamking]

Originally Posted by burbur

i made accounts to boost my watchers last years. just accounts with name/email/pw (no address and so on).

those accs are 1 year old now. when i create a seller acc and list something it goes life without problems.

On fresh accs when i list they get banned aftr 1 day.

1 month ago i created a ebay seller acc and did not use it at all (no browsing for cookies nothing). after listing an item it went life.


i also seen accounts which were created less than 5 days ago with active listings.


I think it is about activity and age. a lot activity such as browsing allows to list if the acc is only 5 days old. otherwise you need to wait few month

Hmmm... personally I dont bother with warming up accounts. The most i warm up accounts is for 24 hours. Usually I list 2 listings with 15 quantity each per listing after 12 hours.
Has been going strong since and even now