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Vero Question! - is there a specific time of day vero infractions are handed down?
 

I wanted to put some Vero times together, and see when auctions gets verod the most. So please share when have u notice your auctions getting Vero's the most.

The T&S team works 24/7. They handle VeRO claims as they receive them.

I sell authentic items, but which I get through the back door of the factory, so I can sell them for 1/4th of the regular price. I got VERO'd twice the last month and always on a Wednesday to Friday, never between Saturday to Tuesday. Don't know if that helps..

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I got VERO'd twice the last month and always on a Wednesday to Friday, never between Saturday to Tuesday. Don't know if that helps..[/QUOTE]


you know that's interesting, that's the sametime I get verod..not all the time but 85% of the time.

VeRO's are nasty things. They happen all times of the day from the 50 or so I've received. You can't beat them, trust me.

Probably more like 30-40. You just can't beat them.

Im not trying to beat them...im just trying to lower my risk.

I wonder if they can VERO you on 1 day listings, too? And can they VERO you on closed listings? Say the auction ends already ..will they still remove it?

I don't think so. That's one of the reason eBay has moved most listings to 5-day or whatever it is now.

I think you need 5+ feedback to list 1 day auctions and accept PayPal ..or 10+ feedback without PayPal.

"I wonder if they can VERO you on 1 day listings, too? And can they VERO you on closed listings? Say the auction ends already"

From my experience - Yes, they do, VERO on closed listing. And sometimes I got VERO only few hours later after the auction had been finished listing, also during weekend. I think they are awake 25 hours a days. :p

Sorry, forgot to explain. VERO on ended listing on my case was. I had 2 same items. One closed yesterday (did not sell) and the other one was on the auction for another 3 days. They removed the active first and then the one that ended yesterday. They even Vero on the items that I have been self "terminate"

wow, i never heard of that before....getting your listing verod after its ended, what type of non-sense is that.

makes sense to me.

I know the T&S department works 24/7 on VERO complaints ...but the companies that submit these complaints probably don't work on weekends, so I assume you're safer listing things during the weekends.

NO i STRONGLY disagree with this statement.. my observation is that my items used to be removed on mondays after i listed on weekends... probably veros members are enjoying picking listins up on weekend nigts .. browsing ebay having fun noting listings and on monday morning faxing the lists to ebay.. go f*** em

and to all those wondering how come they remove ur ended listings.. well if u go to advance search and look for search history for items that have been ended u can find all those listings which are ended.. this kind of search is available for a month or two.. so u r still vulnerable if ur listing has ended

Right, that's exactly what I think...it has to be a time where they don't work, and if they do work, there not alot of VERO associates around, and I think W-S is the better time to post items.

It's amazing sometimes too. I have to clear my stock, items which are not allowed to sell on Ebay because of the Vero. I hidden the item carefully in my shop (only 1 piece). I listed it with NO NAME - NO BRAND - NOTHING !! The little devil found my item few hours later.

Maybe theres a bot to scan for pictures used in previously VeRO'd auctions. just a guess

This is true. I can't remember though if it requires you to provide the paypal address at the time of the listing though or just say you accept it within the listing body. I believe providing it, you'd have to make it "paypal preferred" while just mentioning it would give a bit more flexibility. Anyone remember?

In any case, I would say bad times for vero goods would be first of the morning and end of day, early evening. The times when people will be home (including Vero) just scanning auctions.

I just thought of this. I send alot of second chance offers out, so if the main auction was taken down from vero would the second chance offers(the ones that buyers already accepted) be taken down too?

I have a trick I sometimes use to beat the eBay and trademark holder 'watchdogs'. But I won't post it here in an open forum, once it is made private (as announced by aspkin), I'll be happy to share. In 99% of the cases, they won't discover your listings but you will still get bidders.

no second chance offers are not taken down in my experience.. as no one else except u and the receiver can see it

You know what I'm wondering ..I see one seller selling the same things on one account, then he stops selling on that account and starts under a new user ID. His IDs are all the same though, like billy1, billy2, billy3, etc. I assume he's getting VERO'd, but then sets up a new account, maybe under the same account information and then sells again?

So I wonder if eBay counts VERO strikes against an account name, before they kill you completely ...or if they count VERO strikes against the actual account holder across all accounts.

What , the old switch the letters tricks

I was VeRO'd like 6 times on one account. I then made a new account and was verod twice on that one then BAM that account was suspended and the other the next day. Ebay looks into stuff more than you think sometimes.

What are you all selling to get verod so much? You have to be selling some suspect items..

VeRO doesn't have much to do with ebay, more like an over zelous company that checks ebay everyday. Its easy for them to do so because theres only.. say 10-20 of their products on at one time.

Yes, I think it is correct. You can have Vero 6 times on one account, it is not a big problem as long as Ebay found only 1 item each. You might have to make the tutorial test. But... once Ebay found that you have *this item* may be 10 or 20 pieces (in store or fix price), Ebay gives you a jet ticket immediately. Bye Bye !!
I became 2 free tickets !!

My last VERO was 6 items of the same kind. Some in store, some in auctions, some even already closed auctions. After that, they made me take the tutorial. Didn't get booted ...maybe that's coming with the next VERO.

I'm telling you all for the most part its ebay users or competitors that get you vereod. Ebay has already admitted it. They also said they rely on Ebay users to help fight counterfeits and so forth...


Put it this way.

If you were to report somebody listings, what email would Ebay give the seller after they removed their listing???

They don't and will not say a user reported your listing,no, they say vero or trademark,copyright..

no chris there is a difference. VeRO is when a verified rights owner makes a formal complaint to ebay. If ebay were to remove an auction with its own knowledge it would NOT say it was VeRO'd. But rather just trademark/copyright infringement.

From Chirs "its ebay users or competitors that get you vereod".

Exactly ! I am now more carefully, giving buyer a warning for unpaid item. A German A*s bought the item from me and did not pay for (3.99 Euro), he became a warning. One day later I got Vero on this item - the item I had sold over 2 years and a lot without having any problem before. Flow out immediately ! Man... you will never know who you are dealing with !

I dont know where you guys come up with this stuff, iv never had anything like that happen to me jenny. Maybe its just a coincidence, I don't know.

How about the "ENCOURAGING INfringement" letter? I nearly flipped the first time I got one of these. Different than Vero, and I guess complained about by Competition??

ive had quite a few veros and most of mine seem to be sunday am, no matter what day id listed them, and ive had 1 day auctions took down, here in uk we need 10 feedback to do 1 day auctions, and ive had a few took down after they have finished which is a right pain in the a**e.

most brand names arent allowed on 1 day auctions, ive tried and it wont let you, lol, ive found 1 type lets me do it on 3 day only but another makes me do 5 days only.

With veros, it seems the bigger the name of the IP owner, the quicker they go down.

I have never been veroed. I have been done with "copyright" and "trademark" infringment and im positive these are from narking competitors. My theory is that once someone gets all their items removed they go make an account and nark on everyone els in the hopes of gettin back at their competitors. I had a huge urge to do this when I was targeted but in the long run its bad of everyone.

Soul:
Personally, for me.. Time is precious, and thats a waste of time, and effort.. I'd just get back to selling, (every day down youre loosing dolllars/house pyts/car pyts....)
--get new pics, new descripts/ use diff categories if poss??