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dopedan 08-09-2021 02:20 PM

Which eBay countries don't use Managed Payments yet?
 
Like, is it possible to sign-up for eBay in a country/region that still uses paypal? Please let me know.

slokor 08-09-2021 10:59 PM

Re: Which eBay countries don't use Managed Payments yet?
 
Someone mentioned Russia. No idea if thats right or not.
Cant imagine running an account from any other country though as that will present its own set of issues.
And of course there the simple fact that MP will apply to all countries sooner rather than later anyway so may as well face reality and deal with it.

rsot 08-10-2021 05:16 AM

Re: Which eBay countries don't use Managed Payments yet?
 
@dopedan, I'm in line with slokor - not sure about Russia though

murdered_by_ebay 08-10-2021 12:15 PM

Re: Which eBay countries don't use Managed Payments yet?
 
yes , Russia is a good solution if the ebay account is established. Payoneer access was blocked there so Russia can be used with paypal if country of an established ebay account is changed. I know a couple of people who recommended me to switch to russian registration

I had some older ebay accounts I could not use anymore so decided to change the country to Russia and test it. it has been working fine , no signs of managed payments , no invitations or deadlines

there is a good chance Russia will continue working into 2022 , maybe longer

I am only concerned that the shipping country is different. I don't know if ebay will start looking for russian sellers who continue using paypal but state a different country they ship their items from

Divra75 08-14-2021 07:06 PM

Re: Which eBay countries don't use Managed Payments yet?
 
thailand work with paypal

murdered_by_ebay 08-14-2021 08:16 PM

Re: Which eBay countries don't use Managed Payments yet?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Divra75 (Post 1166338)
thailand work with paypal

that could be but in russia payoneer was banned by the state , access to the site was blocked from all russian ip's so that russian ebay accounts are likely to continue working with paypal for a long time. this is a very good opportunity to continue using paypal on russia registered ebay accounts , I see there are some sellers who have already been using it shipping items from USA

Hardgrafter 08-14-2021 09:11 PM

Re: Which eBay countries don't use Managed Payments yet?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay (Post 1166339)
that could be but in russia payoneer was banned by the state , access to the site was blocked from all russian ip's so that russian ebay accounts are likely to continue working with paypal for a long time. this is a very good opportunity to continue using paypal on russia registered ebay accounts , I see there are some sellers who have already been using it shipping items from USA

That is very interesting. Do you sell to the UK? If so, did you add shipping from UK or USA?

I suppose this won't work on newly formed Russian ebay/PayPal registered stealth accounts, only existing established accounts?

murdered_by_ebay 08-14-2021 09:23 PM

Re: Which eBay countries don't use Managed Payments yet?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hardgrafter (Post 1166343)
That is very interesting. Do you sell to the UK? If so, did you add shipping from UK or USA?

I suppose this won't work on newly formed Russian ebay/PayPal registered stealth accounts, only existing established accounts?

I personally use russian ebay accounts only on ebay.com with items I ship from USA. I think it is the safest bet because almost all russian sellers are on ebay.com and this does not attract attention

I think russian accounts are a fantastic way to avoid MP for many months to come but this should work with existing accounts only. and of course such accounts can be run as old school stealth without any checks by ebay as long as there are security measures in place like avoiding sudden volume spikes , resolving disputes etc.

kirkland 08-14-2021 10:23 PM

Re: Which eBay countries don't use Managed Payments yet?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay (Post 1166344)
I personally use russian ebay accounts only on ebay.com with items I ship from USA. I think it is the safest bet because almost all russian sellers are on ebay.com and this does not attract attention

I think russian accounts are a fantastic way to avoid MP for many months to come but this should work with existing accounts only. and of course such accounts can be run as old school stealth without any checks by ebay as long as there are security measures in place like avoiding sudden volume spikes , resolving disputes etc.

But then the question becomes - use Russian VPN? Or US IP. I recall from a previous thread that you use US IP and it suffices, but it seems so odd to me that ebay would allow that to pass.

agent006140 08-14-2021 10:55 PM

Re: Which eBay countries don't use Managed Payments yet?
 
I just found several gold bullion sellers on Ebay USA who takes cash and carry.

murdered_by_ebay 08-14-2021 11:15 PM

Re: Which eBay countries don't use Managed Payments yet?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kirkland (Post 1166345)
But then the question becomes - use Russian VPN? Or US IP. I recall from a previous thread that you use US IP and it suffices, but it seems so odd to me that ebay would allow that to pass.

no , I wrote I used russian IP which I pay around $1.35 per month for , those are abundant and cheaper than western ones. I used russian IP's on 5 shops and USA IP on 2 shops.

rsot 08-15-2021 06:48 AM

Re: Which eBay countries don't use Managed Payments yet?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay (Post 1166347)
no , I wrote I used russian IP which I pay around $1.35 per month for , those are abundant and cheaper than western ones. I used russian IP's on 5 shops and USA IP on 2 shops.

How long have the russian accounts been in existence?

coldascrystal 08-15-2021 07:16 AM

Re: Which eBay countries don't use Managed Payments yet?
 
This is GOD TIER! wondering if it would be safe to use my own paypal that was once attached to an active ebay account that is in use now on a new russian account or can i change safely change an existing ebay acount to a russian one.

murdered_by_ebay 08-15-2021 08:01 AM

Re: Which eBay countries don't use Managed Payments yet?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 1166367)
How long have the russian accounts been in existence?

my accounts that I used for russia are about 1-3 years old

murdered_by_ebay 08-15-2021 08:05 AM

Re: Which eBay countries don't use Managed Payments yet?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by coldascrystal (Post 1166382)
This is GOD TIER! wondering if it would be safe to use my own paypal that was once attached to an active ebay account that is in use now on a new russian account or can i change safely change an existing ebay acount to a russian one.

it is better to use paypal that is already attached. there is really no difference betweent russian accounts today and old-style usa accounts with paypal. there is only the problem that this does not work with brandnew accounts as they have issue to accept paypal and MP is not available in Russia

coldascrystal 08-15-2021 08:59 AM

Re: Which eBay countries don't use Managed Payments yet?
 
Man thank you! so to be clear best thing to do is move an existing US account to a russian ip address. Anything i should be worried about especially concerning moving one with active orders

murdered_by_ebay 08-15-2021 09:02 AM

Re: Which eBay countries don't use Managed Payments yet?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by coldascrystal (Post 1166400)
Man thank you! so to be clear best thing to do is move an existing US account to a russian ip address. Anything i should be worried about especially concerning moving one with active orders

I think it is safe to move an active account. Problems may arise with new accounts or accounts that are already blocked from listing items because of MP.

with new accounts it is possible that they will not be working. if account is working but can't list anything because of MP then I would ask ebay to unblock as obviously either paypal or MP should be available

YARAHE 08-15-2021 04:21 PM

Re: Which eBay countries don't use Managed Payments yet?
 
So I have 1 Israeli eBay account which is running for many years and stopped selling since MP. How should I change it to russian account? Just by changing the address in personal information? And how should I change the IP? As of now this eBay account is running on Israeli Virtual Private Server (VPS).

murdered_by_ebay 08-15-2021 04:54 PM

Re: Which eBay countries don't use Managed Payments yet?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by YARAHE (Post 1166439)
So I have 1 Israeli eBay account which is running for many years and stopped selling since MP. How should I change it to russian account? Just by changing the address in personal information? And how should I change the IP? As of now this eBay account is running on Israeli Virtual Private Server (VPS).

with such an account it makes sense to switch to MP with your real details. using Russia is more for people who have spare accounts like myself because I registered a lot in my real name already and had 7 that were left unused so I switched over to Russia with all 7 back in March and April and it is running surprisingly well , I have a turnover of $3000-$10000 per month on each and everything has been running to paypal smoothly.

I use ebay.com though and my shipping location is USA. I don't know if this would work on local ebay sites as well as nearly all russian sellers are on ebay.com

slokor 08-15-2021 11:58 PM

Re: Which eBay countries don't use Managed Payments yet?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay (Post 1166441)
with such an account it makes sense to switch to MP with your real details. using Russia is more for people who have spare accounts like myself because I registered a lot in my real name already and had 7 that were left unused so I switched over to Russia with all 7 back in March and April and it is running surprisingly well , I have a turnover of $3000-$10000 per month on each and everything has been running to paypal smoothly.

I use ebay.com though and my shipping location is USA. I don't know if this would work on local ebay sites as well as nearly all russian sellers are on ebay.com

I agree.
What exactly would they ask for if you were to convert it to MP on an Israeli account? more than likely would be easier to provide them with that then to switch to a different country that will eventually also need to be converted to MP.

Dmitry 08-16-2021 12:05 AM

Re: Which eBay countries don't use Managed Payments yet?
 
There is no need to bother with Russian accounts, a few days ago in Russia the tab with MP also became active, some users from Russia are already receiving notifications about updating their account, it is written before the end of the year everyone should switch to MP
It is unclear only one payoneer does not work in Russia, it is blocked, most likely in Russia you will have to work through a VPN

Dmitry 08-16-2021 12:09 AM

Re: Which eBay countries don't use Managed Payments yet?
 
I am from Russia and already offer to register


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Dmitry 08-16-2021 04:22 AM

Re: Which eBay countries don't use Managed Payments yet?
 
In the USA and Europe, MP also work only through payoneer, or are there any other options?
I know that payoneer is banned not only in Russia, but also in some other countries, how does MP work there, what is used instead of payoneer?

murdered_by_ebay 08-16-2021 09:46 AM

Re: Which eBay countries don't use Managed Payments yet?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by slokor (Post 1166462)
I agree.
What exactly would they ask for if you were to convert it to MP on an Israeli account? more than likely would be easier to provide them with that then to switch to a different country that will eventually also need to be converted to MP.

the only real disadvantage of changing to real details on israeli ebay is that payoneer is run from israel as well although incorporated in the US , this means all the details are likely to be shared with the israeli authorities and the taxes down there are extremely high

murdered_by_ebay 08-16-2021 09:48 AM

Re: Which eBay countries don't use Managed Payments yet?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dmitry (Post 1166463)
There is no need to bother with Russian accounts, a few days ago in Russia the tab with MP also became active, some users from Russia are already receiving notifications about updating their account, it is written before the end of the year everyone should switch to MP
It is unclear only one payoneer does not work in Russia, it is blocked, most likely in Russia you will have to work through a VPN

Russia still works and I did not receive such notifications on any of my accounts. Even if it should start I am sure there will be plenty of time until people are forced to use it

Dmitry 08-16-2021 10:22 AM

Re: Which eBay countries don't use Managed Payments yet?
 
In the USA and Europe, MTs also work only through payoneer, or are there any other options?
I know that payoneer is banned not only in Russia, but also in some other countries, how does MP work there, what is used instead of payoneer?

Dmitry 08-16-2021 10:24 AM

Re: Which eBay countries don't use Managed Payments yet?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay (Post 1166522)
Russia still works and I did not receive such notifications on any of my accounts. Even if it should start I am sure there will be plenty of time until people are forced to use it

I said that it started two days ago, soon everyone will receive notifications within 1-2 months, the full transition should be done before the end of the year.

murdered_by_ebay 08-16-2021 10:44 AM

Re: Which eBay countries don't use Managed Payments yet?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dmitry (Post 1166536)
I said that it started two days ago, soon everyone will receive notifications within 1-2 months, the full transition should be done before the end of the year.

I will be selling as usual as no notifications have come in for me. this means that any notifications may have come to small sellers only. and I assume only for testing as it is not clear how people will react once they see they can't withdraw anything from payoneer.

I am sure Russia will be working with paypal for months to come so that it is worth selling there as long as it is possible

kirkland 08-16-2021 11:17 AM

Re: Which eBay countries don't use Managed Payments yet?
 
as with any method, whether the method referenced in this thread works right now, it def wont work long if people start abusing it... as im getting the sense will be the case from the comments in this thread (esp the comment with "100s of UK accounts"). prob best to let people use some good ole trial and error for this

murdered_by_ebay 08-16-2021 12:13 PM

Re: Which eBay countries don't use Managed Payments yet?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kirkland (Post 1166548)
as with any method, whether the method referenced in this thread works right now, it def wont work long if people start abusing it... as im getting the sense will be the case from the comments in this thread (esp the comment with "100s of UK accounts"). prob best to let people use some good ole trial and error for this

just diversify , the russian method works but it doesn't mean that it should be used as the main selling channel. for me it is a way to continue using some shops I could not use otherwise while my shops in real name continue selling too

YARAHE 08-16-2021 03:18 PM

Re: Which eBay countries don't use Managed Payments yet?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay (Post 1166441)
with such an account it makes sense to switch to MP with your real details. using Russia is more for people who have spare accounts like myself because I registered a lot in my real name already and had 7 that were left unused so I switched over to Russia with all 7 back in March and April and it is running surprisingly well , I have a turnover of $3000-$10000 per month on each and everything has been running to paypal smoothly.

I use ebay.com though and my shipping location is USA. I don't know if this would work on local ebay sites as well as nearly all russian sellers are on ebay.com

Well, I’m already used my real name in other account with MP and it was suspended. Now I can’t use MP as my real name because in Israel it is only payoneer. The payoneer account name must match the eBay account name so my name is black listed now in eBay. I must find a way to sell again using PayPal.

murdered_by_ebay 08-16-2021 03:47 PM

Re: Which eBay countries don't use Managed Payments yet?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by YARAHE (Post 1166567)
Well, I’m already used my real name in other account with MP and it was suspended. Now I can’t use MP as my real name because in Israel it is only payoneer. The payoneer account name must match the eBay account name so my name is black listed now in eBay. I must find a way to sell again using PayPal.

what was the reason for suspension?

Xilla 08-19-2021 05:41 AM

Re: Which eBay countries don't use Managed Payments yet?
 
Support reported that the payoneer connection email was caused by a technical glitch. But before the end of the year, they want to connect it. In Russia.

murdered_by_ebay 08-19-2021 08:11 AM

Re: Which eBay countries don't use Managed Payments yet?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Xilla (Post 1166870)
Support reported that the payoneer connection email was caused by a technical glitch. But before the end of the year, they want to connect it. In Russia.

everything is working fine on russian stealth accounts , whether they connect or not we will see , I think problems with payoneer will delay MP

YARAHE 08-19-2021 09:17 AM

Re: Which eBay countries don't use Managed Payments yet?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay (Post 1166574)
what was the reason for suspension?

Selling VERO items

murdered_by_ebay 08-19-2021 09:39 AM

Re: Which eBay countries don't use Managed Payments yet?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by YARAHE (Post 1166905)
Selling VERO items

in that case it is better not to use your real name at all as VERO suspension is essentially a suspension for counterfeit items

in this case the best way to go is to open stealth accounts with ebay/payoneer

since payoneer have a weak verification you can easily be verified with stealth ID's and selfies


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