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| Lmfao | 10-20-2021 06:44 AM |
Important - eBay can track you via browser fingerprints !
Thesafety.us kit can show browser fingerprints even if you use different windows users with fresh installed chrome browsers and of course different IPs…
So I am pretty sure eBay can also see this.. any suggestions how to avoid this??
Or shall I need to have completely new PC for each account now ? Or VPS ? |
| muzzie | 10-20-2021 07:10 AM |
Re: Important - eBay can track you via browser fingerprints !
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lmfao
(Post 1173480)
Thesafety.us kit can show browser fingerprints even if you use different windows users with fresh installed chrome browsers and of course different IPs…
So I am pretty sure eBay can also see this.. any suggestions how to avoid this??
Or shall I need to have completely new PC for each account now ? Or VPS ?
| Completely virgin pc or phone works just okay. As they seem to check hardware as well. |
| phaz0rz | 10-20-2021 07:28 AM |
Re: Important - eBay can track you via browser fingerprints !
https://chrisx.xyz/blog/yet-another-...rdening-guide/
I don't use Chrome but with firefox, by manually tweaking tons of settings in about :config I've been able to confuse the hell out of websites. When I go to whoer.net now it shows the wrong operating system, browser, system time, everything. Aspkin's rented CDN absolutely hates it and won't ever let me on the site anymore if I try to use a VPN. :boink: |
| muzzie | 10-20-2021 07:55 AM |
Re: Important - eBay can track you via browser fingerprints !
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Originally Posted by phaz0rz
(Post 1173485)
https://chrisx.xyz/blog/yet-another-...rdening-guide/
I don't use Chrome but with firefox, by manually tweaking tons of settings in about :config I've been able to confuse the hell out of websites. When I go to whoer.net now it shows the wrong operating system, browser, system time, everything. Aspkin's rented CDN absolutely hates it and won't ever let me on the site anymore if I try to use a VPN. :boink:
| Thing is that hardening makes things even worse, as ebay bots now work very simple - if they do not see a picture of an average customer, they block you straight away. So that is why a real device is needed - to pass bot check. There seem to be no software (vps, multilogin, multiuser) that can trick them now reliably. But just using a clean brand new device via 4g network works great. |
Re: Important - eBay can track you via browser fingerprints !
good morning |
| phaz0rz | 10-20-2021 08:52 AM |
Re: Important - eBay can track you via browser fingerprints !
Good morning dano. Is it really morning in Italy right now?
@muzzie - aside from hcaptcha's every time I login I haven't had any problems. For the most part though I agree with what you're saying. Taking extra steps to "anonymize" yourself just makes you look suspicious from eBay's POV because you don't look like a normal user. I did it primarily for places other than eBay and have been considering moving my eBay account to a portable FF which isn't hardened to avoid all the captchas. |
| Lmfao | 10-20-2021 09:02 AM |
Re: Important - eBay can track you via browser fingerprints !
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Originally Posted by phaz0rz
(Post 1173497)
Good morning dano. Is it really morning in Italy right now?
@muzzie - aside from hcaptcha's every time I login I haven't had any problems. For the most part though I agree with what you're saying. Taking extra steps to "anonymize" yourself just makes you look suspicious from eBay's POV because you don't look like a normal user. I did it primarily for places other than eBay and have been considering moving my eBay account to a portable FF which isn't hardened to avoid all the captchas.
| Thanks for the info, it’s very useful. So you’re just using different windows user accounts? |
| muzzie | 10-20-2021 09:23 AM |
Re: Important - eBay can track you via browser fingerprints !
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Originally Posted by Lmfao
(Post 1173498)
Thanks for the info, it’s very useful. So you’re just using different windows user accounts?
| You cant to that as hardware stays the same. |
| phaz0rz | 10-20-2021 09:42 AM |
Re: Important - eBay can track you via browser fingerprints !
I'm just using different copies of Firefox portable for each account. I used to use virtual machines but I no longer feel it's necessary.
My main account is the one selling on a "hardened" instance of Firefox. |
| JamesLee | 10-20-2021 04:24 PM |
Re: Important - eBay can track you via browser fingerprints !
Firefox or virtual machine seems does not work for creating new accounts. New PC is good when creating new account. |
Re: Important - eBay can track you via browser fingerprints !
Don't get crazy, different users in same PC shall be ok |
| JamesLee | 10-21-2021 02:39 PM |
Re: Important - eBay can track you via browser fingerprints !
I don't think different users should be OK now, especially when you create new stealth account. |
| muzzie | 10-21-2021 03:15 PM |
Re: Important - eBay can track you via browser fingerprints !
Virtual machines and different users do not work anymore. New hardware needed. |
Re: Important - eBay can track you via browser fingerprints !
Paranoia or solid basis to affirm it ? |
| DENDEN76 | 10-22-2021 02:56 AM |
Re: Important - eBay can track you via browser fingerprints !
On bonanza they pull webgl and canvas which stays the same across similar browsers and user accounts. I use canvas blocker which creates and maintains fingerprints across multiple sites. Seems to work |
Re: Important - eBay can track you via browser fingerprints !
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lmfao
(Post 1173480)
Thesafety.us kit can show browser fingerprints even if you use different windows users with fresh installed chrome browsers and of course different IPs…
So I am pretty sure eBay can also see this.. any suggestions how to avoid this??
Or shall I need to have completely new PC for each account now ? Or VPS ?
| That site can't even detect I'm running a Proxy. http://i.postimg.cc/5yF9NHb7/screen2.jpg |
Re: Important - eBay can track you via browser fingerprints !
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Originally Posted by DENDEN76
(Post 1173705)
On bonanza they pull webgl and canvas which stays the same across similar browsers and user accounts. I use canvas blocker which creates and maintains fingerprints across multiple sites. Seems to work
| Go on with the operations |
| jamthedeejay | 10-22-2021 06:39 AM |
Re: Important - eBay can track you via browser fingerprints !
I'm not sure this is true.. |
| DENDEN76 | 10-22-2021 10:10 AM |
Re: Important - eBay can track you via browser fingerprints !
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Originally Posted by jamthedeejay
(Post 1173746)
I'm not sure this is true..
| Download a fingerprint blocker extension. They show notifications when canvas or webgl is requested. It happens on specific pages with every page reload. Some sites dont pull the data at all. |
Re: Important - eBay can track you via browser fingerprints !
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Originally Posted by DENDEN76
(Post 1173758)
Download a fingerprint blocker extension. They show notifications when canvas or webgl is requested. It happens on specific pages with every page reload. Some sites dont pull the data at all.
| eBay hates those tricks |
| DENDEN76 | 10-22-2021 10:05 PM |
Re: Important - eBay can track you via browser fingerprints !
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Originally Posted by aorcat
(Post 1173788)
eBay hates those tricks
| Its only meant to prove that they are pulling the data in case you're unsure not for creating actual accounts |
Re: Important - eBay can track you via browser fingerprints !
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Originally Posted by DENDEN76
(Post 1173810)
Its only meant to prove that they are pulling the data in case you're unsure not for creating actual accounts
| But how do you know eBay checks that?. I know your PC/ Browser leak info but eBay doesn't check it. Got several eBays suspended but nothing happens if opening a new in the same PC. I just use different PC users, that's all. And it has been working for me since I began on eBay in 2003 |
| DENDEN76 | 10-23-2021 03:53 AM |
Re: Important - eBay can track you via browser fingerprints !
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Originally Posted by aorcat
(Post 1173819)
But how do you know eBay checks that?. I know your PC/ Browser leak info but eBay doesn't check it. Got several eBays suspended but nothing happens if opening a new in the same PC. I just use different PC users, that's all. And it has been working for me since I began on eBay in 2003
| Some sites I sell on dont check at all while others do. So they're intentionally pulling the data its not random. Some sellers can easily create accounts without changing much while others struggle. So changing the canvas and webgl is an option for them to try out. |
Re: Important - eBay can track you via browser fingerprints !
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Originally Posted by DENDEN76
(Post 1173820)
Some sites I sell on dont check at all while others do.
| True that - differences in algorithms and "bots" from site to site |
| solefoodbk | 10-24-2021 06:21 PM |
Re: Important - eBay can track you via browser fingerprints !
Ebay would only potentially use this for algos. No human is checking this. I highly doubt it would ever cause a isssue. |
Re: Important - eBay can track you via browser fingerprints !
No need for new hardware. Tweak user agents, if on firefox there's couple of main settings through configs. Using extensions to report ⊗⊗⊗⊗ canvas fingerprint values can be detected and raises suspicions.
Virtual boxes/new users work fine |
| Beekay | 10-27-2021 11:38 AM |
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I think using different users in chrome with a proxy is working fine....I think yall over thinking |
| phaz0rz | 10-27-2021 11:58 AM |
Re: Important - eBay can track you via browser fingerprints !
I think you're underthinking it but we can agree to disagree, lol. Chrome tracks more than any other browser. |
| Lmfao | 10-31-2021 02:04 AM |
Re: Important - eBay can track you via browser fingerprints !
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Originally Posted by phaz0rz
(Post 1174181)
I think you're underthinking it but we can agree to disagree, lol. Chrome tracks more than any other browser.
| Indeed…. 😀Need to find a way |
| Camaro2SS | 10-31-2021 05:20 AM |
Re: Important - eBay can track you via browser fingerprints !
100% agree Quote:
Originally Posted by phaz0rz
(Post 1173502)
I'm just using different copies of Firefox portable for each account. I used to use virtual machines but I no longer feel it's necessary.
My main account is the one selling on a "hardened" instance of Firefox.
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| muzzie | 10-31-2021 05:30 AM |
Re: Important - eBay can track you via browser fingerprints !
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Originally Posted by Camaro2SS
(Post 1174480)
100% agree
| If speaking about users on the same pc and ff portable, seems bo go for me - all will have same fingerprint as it relies on the hardware. |
| muzzie | 10-31-2021 05:33 AM |
Re: Important - eBay can track you via browser fingerprints !
Quote:
Originally Posted by Duab
(Post 1174150)
No need for new hardware. Tweak user agents, if on firefox there's couple of main settings through configs. Using extensions to report ⊗⊗⊗⊗ canvas fingerprint values can be detected and raises suspicions.
Virtual boxes/new users work fine
| They don't work like that. Made a test - created few accs via new users - all had same fingerprint and got banned in few h after listing. |
Re: Important - eBay can track you via browser fingerprints !
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Originally Posted by muzzie
(Post 1174483)
They don't work like that. Made a test - created few accs via new users - all had same fingerprint and got banned in few h after listing.
| So you're saying that browser fingerprinting goes across different user accounts causing the link and takedown? |
| muzzie | 10-31-2021 08:56 AM |
Re: Important - eBay can track you via browser fingerprints !
Quote:
Originally Posted by rsot
(Post 1174500)
So you're saying that browser fingerprinting goes across different user accounts causing the link and takedown?
| Yes, it is. If you create 2 accs and put same browser in each - will be same canvas id. |
| Rageless1 | 10-31-2021 07:58 PM |
Re: Important - eBay can track you via browser fingerprints !
Quote:
Originally Posted by muzzie
(Post 1174483)
They don't work like that. Made a test - created few accs via new users - all had same fingerprint and got banned in few h after listing.
| Using new user accounts for me are not working for me either like they did in the past. Virtual machines, nope even using different browsers on new users didn't work.
What sometimes works for me is using my mobile phone and using the firefox private browser seems to keep the account up. No suspension or restriction within 30-60 minutes like I do with the methods above. But some accounts get permanently suspended within a week and others stay up.
Tried the same method as the mobile above but this time using desktop firefox private with mobile tether. Gets suspended within 30 minutes or less after listing.
To clarify with all the above methods, I am creating new accounts. I am not aging them. |
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