| | | samspalace | 06-28-2022 12:20 PM | Need some advice for listing items on new accounts Hi everyone,
The stealth guide recommends used clothing, toys etc.
Everytime I have listed a pair of jeans they get suspended even a pair listed for 7 days auction 99p used no brand in photos, title or description still gets suspended.
I’m starting to think eBay don’t like me listing jeans up for sale.
What does experience stealth users list on new accounts? On my next account I won’t be listing a pair of jeans as the bots just don’t like it
Appreciate your replies as always |
| SaiJin | 06-28-2022 12:32 PM | Re: Need some advice for listing items on new accounts Some times if an item is too cheap it triggers it too. I'd say $5-$10 is bettter.
Another idea is to go to your local garage sale or 1 dollar store and just buy a couple of items you think you can sell for a small profit. |
| samspalace | 06-28-2022 01:31 PM | Re: Need some advice for listing items on new accounts Quote:
Originally Posted by SaiJin
(Post 1195997)
Some times if an item is too cheap it triggers it too. I'd say $5-$10 is bettter.
Another idea is to go to your local garage sale or 1 dollar store and just buy a couple of items you think you can sell for a small profit. | Thanks for your reply can you tell me cheap items to list I’m honestly not bothered about profits until I age my account. I just need to know which items are acceptable to list on new accounts. |
| Roy3805 | 06-28-2022 02:18 PM | Re: Need some advice for listing items on new accounts Quote:
Originally Posted by SaiJin
(Post 1195997)
Some times if an item is too cheap it triggers it too. I'd say $5-$10 is bettter.
Another idea is to go to your local garage sale or 1 dollar store and just buy a couple of items you think you can sell for a small profit. | I very much agree. You have to think logically like the normal eBay user. A very small percent will go on eBay to sell a item very cheap. The average user is looking to make some money. They will list a risky item for profit. A item too cheap as first listing will definitely trigger some red flags 🚩. |
| samspalace | 06-28-2022 02:52 PM | Re: Need some advice for listing items on new accounts Quote:
Originally Posted by Roy3805
(Post 1196001)
I very much agree. You have to think logically like the normal eBay user. A very small percent will go on eBay to sell a item very cheap. The average user is looking to make some money. They will list a risky item for profit. A item too cheap as first listing will definitely trigger some red flags 🚩. | Thanks maybe not list jeans for 99p anymore but it’s also recommended to not use buy it now. I honestly don’t mind if I make a loss my jeans were £70 and I was willing to list for pennies. I just need to know which items to list on new accounts as stealth guide recommends clothes, toys, books. I’ve seen accounts suspended for listing books so what are the items people list to successfully age accounts until they sell their profitable items |
| Roy3805 | 06-28-2022 03:36 PM | Re: Need some advice for listing items on new accounts A fresh user can sell a risky item no problem. You just don’t want to overdo it like listing lots of quantities or selling too many in a short period of time. That will trigger red flags |
| samspalace | 06-28-2022 04:22 PM | Re: Need some advice for listing items on new accounts Quote:
Originally Posted by Roy3805
(Post 1196004)
A fresh user can sell a risky item no problem. You just don’t want to overdo it like listing lots of quantities or selling too many in a short period of time. That will trigger red flags �� | This is what I don’t understand as I only listed 1 item for 7 days auction wasnt a lot of items listed. Account limits 100/£3500 I was going to list 5 more items on Thursday then week after 9 following the stealth guide but I didn’t even get that far as I lost the account again.
Surely a pair of used jeans can’t suspend an account? |
| Roy3805 | 06-28-2022 05:07 PM | Re: Need some advice for listing items on new accounts It should work just don’t list it too cheap as SaiJin said. Too cheap can cause issues too. I used to think listing items for $0.99 would keep the bots away from me but it drawed just as much as a risky item would |
| samspalace | 06-28-2022 05:11 PM | Re: Need some advice for listing items on new accounts I appreciate all your replies I’ve give it another go and list for £5 see if that works :) |
| samspalace | 06-28-2022 05:13 PM | Re: Need some advice for listing items on new accounts Quote:
Originally Posted by Roy3805
(Post 1196010)
It should work just don’t list it too cheap as SaiJin said. Too cheap can cause issues too. I used to think listing items for $0.99 would keep the bots away from me but it drawed just as much as a risky item would | Can I also list new item up as buy it now like plastic mailing bags or an office supply? |
| Roy3805 | 06-28-2022 05:43 PM | Re: Need some advice for listing items on new accounts Quote:
Originally Posted by samspalace
(Post 1196011)
I appreciate all your replies I’ve give it another go and list for £5 see if that works :) | I think that’s still kind of cheap, I try to stay over $20 |
| samspalace | 06-28-2022 05:50 PM | Re: Need some advice for listing items on new accounts Quote:
Originally Posted by Roy3805
(Post 1196013)
I think that’s still kind of cheap, I try to stay over $20 | Okay interesting it’s okay to list as buy it now on new account as well? I’ve been looking at playstation games and dvds |
| Roy3805 | 06-28-2022 07:05 PM | Re: Need some advice for listing items on new accounts Auction or buy it now would work |
| samspalace | 06-28-2022 07:16 PM | Re: Need some advice for listing items on new accounts Quote:
Originally Posted by Roy3805
(Post 1196017)
Auction or buy it now would work | Thanks for your help it does mean a great deal to me.
I will list a computer game for £20 but will wait for the 30 days to turn account into sellers account to see if I will get reactive eBay account
I also think giffgaff mobile hotspot is a no goer now as I have used this network for last 8 accounts and all 8 accounts suspended so think I will try Vodafone mobile hotspot or Three mobile hotspot.
I’ll also use metadata on my daily iPhone 12 to clear all data from images before taking new ones and posting them up on eBay. |
| SaiJin | 06-28-2022 08:16 PM | Re: Need some advice for listing items on new accounts Quote:
Originally Posted by samspalace
(Post 1196019)
Thanks for your help it does mean a great deal to me.
I will list a computer game for £20 but will wait for the 30 days to turn account into sellers account to see if I will get reactive eBay account
I also think giffgaff mobile hotspot is a no goer now as I have used this network for last 8 accounts and all 8 accounts suspended so think I will try Vodafone mobile hotspot or Three mobile hotspot.
I’ll also use metadata on my daily iPhone 12 to clear all data from images before taking new ones and posting them up on eBay. |
Just use your home internet...
And why in the world you'd list a GAME?? |
| samspalace | 06-28-2022 08:39 PM | Re: Need some advice for listing items on new accounts Quote:
Originally Posted by SaiJin
(Post 1196021)
Just use your home internet...
And why in the world you'd list a GAME?? | I’ve heard a used game listed is okay and a value of £20 is reasonable but we have always been told to list cheap books and clothes but clearly does not work anymore |
| samspalace | 06-28-2022 08:47 PM | Re: Need some advice for listing items on new accounts Quote:
Originally Posted by SaiJin
(Post 1196021)
Just use your home internet...
And why in the world you'd list a GAME?? | What items do you list on new accounts?
This is very important for stealthers to know this as mentioned we have been taught to sell clothes and books but doesn’t work anymore
It’s why I created this post to help the community and to know what items we need to list up on new accounts but no recommended items has been given yet which is a real shame and I hope someone can recommend items they have listed on new accounts to help the community |
| SaiJin | 06-28-2022 08:50 PM | Re: Need some advice for listing items on new accounts Quote:
Originally Posted by samspalace
(Post 1196028)
What items do you list on new accounts?
This is very important for stealthers to know this as mentioned we have been taught to sell clothes and books but doesn’t work anymore
It’s why I created this post to help the community and to know what items we need to list up on new accounts but no recommended items has been given yet which is a real shame and I hope someone can recommend items they have listed on new accounts to help the community | I already told you to go to your local dollar store....
And who said selling used games is ok? We talking about Nintendo / PS5 games? |
| samspalace | 06-28-2022 08:56 PM | Re: Need some advice for listing items on new accounts Quote:
Originally Posted by SaiJin
(Post 1196030)
I already told you to go to your local dollar store....
And who said selling used games is ok? We talking about Nintendo / PS5 games? | But it’s not a specific answer on the stealth guide it says clothes, books, toys so we know what to go and get going to a dollar store or Poundland as it’s known in the U.K. is £1 items and these raises red flags.
Please be specific on what items we can list on new accounts?
I’ve spoken to members on the forum through private messages and one person kindly reached out to me and said listing used computer games is okay not sure if they meant ps2 or Nintendo.
They initially said DVDs they have listed and account was okay. |
Re: Need some advice for listing items on new accounts Media and computer games are risky as a first sell, in general |
| samspalace | 06-29-2022 06:03 AM | Re: Need some advice for listing items on new accounts Quote:
Originally Posted by rsot
(Post 1196043)
Media and computer games are risky as a first sell, in general | Okay so what first item would you list up on a brand new seller account? |
| JamesNorth101 | 06-29-2022 06:04 AM | Re: Need some advice for listing items on new accounts Quote:
Originally Posted by samspalace
(Post 1196026)
I’ve heard a used game listed is okay and a value of £20 is reasonable but we have always been told to list cheap books and clothes but clearly does not work anymore | Vital to avoid things like that at first really |
Re: Need some advice for listing items on new accounts Some weird and of often contradictory advice on this forum, no wonder this thread has your head spinning!
As has been said many times before, the wares you sell of of little consequence, all this 'risky good' waffle is, in the main, simply old wives gossip. Now we're into the realm of its value, it's getting stupid.
Your accounts are suspended because they are poorly created. I don't care what you or anyone else says it has almost nothing to do with the goods or their value if you are being normal and reasonable.
You even admitted on another thread that you messaged bidders and sent them images. Beyond madness. Trust me, that account didn't go down because it was a pair of used jeans and I suspect you know it. |
| JamesNorth101 | 06-29-2022 01:47 PM | Re: Need some advice for listing items on new accounts You do say some odd things sometimes Hank
Granted you do give useful advise as we but saying that the first time you list doesn’t matter is just a bit naive. It does matter. Star with high risk branded items then you can nearly always kiss your account goodbye.
That’s not to high risk items are always the reason an account get limited, but it certainly plays a factor |
Re: Need some advice for listing items on new accounts Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesNorth101
(Post 1196093)
saying that the first time you list doesn’t matter is just a bit naive. It does matter. Star with high risk branded items then you can nearly always kiss your account goodbye.
That’s not to high risk items are always the reason an account get limited, but it certainly plays a factor | They're almost certainly creating personal seller accounts, if they were creating business accounts the 'high risk' angle is dramatically lessened.
Okay, there are clearly goods which a personal accounts should give a wide berth and that's why I always offer the caveat of saying 'look normal, be reasonable'. Nobody is suggesting to list a dozen new ipads.
Did ebay decide he was a threat to the community for listing a used pair of jeans, no they didn't. Would they if his personal account listed new wares albeit poundshop tat - more likely IMO.
Now we're into the realm of suggesting it's value, even in the lower range, is a contributory factor. It ain't. It's all sheer speculation and guesswork, and as I said, is enough to have your head spinning.
You and I both know that if we had a pair of used jeans to sell we'd get them sold. :)
We often forget that ebay need sellers for without them there's no buyers. They do not close down every new seller because they want to ditch their pre-loved pants. Indeed, they're currently having a promotion pushing this market, maybe in response to Vinted.
OP, have you looked at Vinted....... :) |
| samspalace | 06-29-2022 03:07 PM | Re: Need some advice for listing items on new accounts Quote:
Originally Posted by Hank
(Post 1196080)
Some weird and of often contradictory advice on this forum, no wonder this thread has your head spinning!
As has been said many times before, the wares you sell of of little consequence, all this 'risky good' waffle is, in the main, simply old wives gossip. Now we're into the realm of its value, it's getting stupid.
Your accounts are suspended because they are poorly created. I don't care what you or anyone else says it has almost nothing to do with the goods or their value if you are being normal and reasonable.
You even admitted on another thread that you messaged bidders and sent them images. Beyond madness. Trust me, that account didn't go down because it was a pair of used jeans and I suspect you know it. | I honestly can’t do anything more than I already have to keep just 1 account active. I’ve used friends real name date of birth and address and was even given good selling allowances. The account was a personal account not a business account new bank account, phone number and gmail account as well.
If you also read my last post I was asking for advice on if I should message one of the bidders to let them know it was a branded item as the jeans cost £70 and didn’t feel good selling for peanuts but after receiving good responses it was recommended to not send any private messages so I followed the advice.
The item was really close to selling and then gets hits with the suspension 2 days before listing was about to end.
I used different desktop, new phone for photos, new ip and listed for 99p auction which was not advised from some members so maybe that triggered the red flag who knows.
I also waited 2 weeks to list my item up and browsed for those 14 days and watched items. I can’t see an issue for poor account creation here?
If you can see an issue in my account creation I would appreciate you letting me know? |
| blanksie | 06-29-2022 03:30 PM | Re: Need some advice for listing items on new accounts Did you use the same camera for listing across all suspended accounts?
Did you scrub meta data from images?
Was the gmail account newly created or aged?
I would not list items for 99p on a new account. |
| samspalace | 06-29-2022 03:35 PM | Re: Need some advice for listing items on new accounts No I use an iPhone 6s never been used on any of my eBay accounts so I had really high expectations for that account.
I will be using metadata next time as I would like to use my iPhone 12 for pictures as it’s better quality.
Gmail was created 14 days before turning account into sellers account.
The 99p 7 day auction seems like it’s a problem maybe if I listed for a £5 with £3 postage it might of been okay. |
| blanksie | 06-29-2022 03:56 PM | Re: Need some advice for listing items on new accounts Quote:
Originally Posted by samspalace
(Post 1196101)
I will be using metadata next time as I would like to use my iPhone 12 for pictures as it’s better quality.
Gmail was created 14 days before turning account into sellers account.
The 99p 7 day auction seems like it’s a problem maybe if I listed for a £5 with £3 postage it might of been okay. | Don't overthink this, KISS (Keep it simple ...)
The new gmail account, or 99p listing, or some other part of you account creation did you in. Slow down, buy something cheap on the account. PM sent |
| samspalace | 06-29-2022 04:05 PM | Re: Need some advice for listing items on new accounts Thanks for sending a message but my inbox was currently full so couldn’t receive it. |
Re: Need some advice for listing items on new accounts Quote:
Originally Posted by samspalace
(Post 1196099)
If you can see an issue in my account creation I would appreciate you letting me know? | If I was writing the algorithm for spotting dodgy new first-time-user accounts then Saver accounts would be up there. I also don't think new users would be scrubbing their metadata although I appreciate you may not have done this yet - any why would you if you're using a new image source.
Is your PC leaking incriminating data/fingerprint?
There's too many variable we are not privy to, indeed it could be your mates info that's dirty. Can you 100% guarantee they are not connected to another suspended account. Probably not.
Fighting through the good advice, gossip, guesses, inane nonsense and downright bad advice is hard work. All I can say is get everything unique, link free and appear as normal as is earthly possible. Then act reasonably, sensibly and patiently. I fear it's the last one you'll struggle with the most. :) |
| Roy3805 | 06-29-2022 06:49 PM | Re: Need some advice for listing items on new accounts Quote:
Originally Posted by Hank
(Post 1196111)
I also don't think new users would be scrubbing their metadata although I appreciate you may not have done this yet - any why would you if you're using a new image source.
Is your PC leaking incriminating data/fingerprint? | I create hundreds of eBay accounts and I’ve never had a problem with cleaning metadata or having same fingerprints with Windows Users. Even though I know eBay can see fingerprints I never had a problem.
We are just giving advice of what works for us and what we see wrong in the OP account creations and then you try to talk like we are idiots 😂
I would say that if I were creating the algorithm I would ban anything that looks like Virtual Machines. I would say that that’s more suspicious than cleaning a photo metadata.
But anyways. OP keep your same creation method and create a virtual machine like Captain Hank and don’t clean metadata and see if anything changes. 👍 |
| Mubashar189 | 06-29-2022 06:57 PM | Re: Need some advice for listing items on new accounts A fresh user can sell a risky item without any issue. You just don’t need to overdo it like listing lots of quantities or selling too many in a short period of time. That will trigger red flags |
| Roy3805 | 06-29-2022 07:14 PM | Re: Need some advice for listing items on new accounts [quote=Mubashar189;1196115]A fresh user can sell a risky item without any issue. You just don’t need to overdo it like listing lots of quantities or selling too many in a short period of time. That will trigger red flags
Right. Normal people go to eBay to sell something worth some value to make profit. My first item on a fresh eBay was a $550 gaming monitor. I put it up for auction and it sold for $300. Shipped it and got payout a few days after delivery. The goal is not to overdo it and list multiple quantities of it or lots of listings. | | All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:28 AM. | |
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