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henryfalmore 08-24-2023 09:14 PM

bad news buyer asked for refund
 
Buyer asked for refund claiming item was defective. I'm positive the philips norelco worked and the charger works as well.

I even sent him the box it came in. (open box never used) he wanted a refund. I just granted it to him via ebay though I'm not refunding the shipping cost. also told him and ebay that he could keep the item.

I'm nervous what happens now? can he leave me a negative or neutral feedback?

will my refund come from the bank account on file or will they just take it from my sales the next time I sell something equaling $20 or more?

if so since he is a seller I promise I will purchase 3 things from him and leave him negative feedback from 3 different accounts. I'm super pissed and stressed about his lies and stupidity.

also added him to blocked buyer list

sorry for the negative post everyone. I'm so upset I could cry.

agent006140 08-24-2023 09:55 PM

Re: bad news buyer asked for refund
 
did he open a case of item not as described?
if not and you refunded him the item but not shipping,that should be the end .
He could leave negative feedback.
do not threaten him,he could report to Ebay.
he could be telling the truth,it may work on your end ,but not for him

yotano211 08-25-2023 12:02 AM

Re: bad news buyer asked for refund
 
dude you got scammed. its too late to get the item back.

Hank 08-25-2023 03:14 AM

Re: bad news buyer asked for refund
 
C'mon lets have not tears over such a tiny amount of money.:good:

Returns are part of online trading, get used to it. Withholding the few bucks for postage will more likely infuriate folk more than simply accepting the return, so a neg/neutral has increased likelihood but I reckon as they're a seller too you'll get away with it. Lets not forget scammers very rarely buy cheap wares on their selling account and want the added hassle of returns, it could genuinely be faulty.


As for your threat to attack someone elses business just because you're unable to manage your own used tat online emporium and your fragile emotions then I think your a pathetic drip and should find some other way of making a living. Have a nice day!

vettefever17 08-25-2023 04:35 AM

Re: bad news buyer asked for refund
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by henryfalmore (Post 1224301)
Buyer asked for refund claiming item was defective. I'm positive the philips norelco worked and the charger works as well.

I even sent him the box it came in. (open box never used) he wanted a refund. I just granted it to him via ebay though I'm not refunding the shipping cost. also told him and ebay that he could keep the item.

I'm nervous what happens now? can he leave me a negative or neutral feedback?

will my refund come from the bank account on file or will they just take it from my sales the next time I sell something equaling $20 or more?

if so since he is a seller I promise I will purchase 3 things from him and leave him negative feedback from 3 different accounts. I'm super pissed and stressed about his lies and stupidity.

also added him to blocked buyer list

sorry for the negative post everyone. I'm so upset I could cry.

Welcome to retail.

More than likely a buyer just wanting something for free realizing how much it would cost to get said item back. Refund it and move on.

As for feedback, don't sweat it. It is just part of the game. It will not affect the true metrics you need to worry about like "items not resolved" when ebay dings your account for them stepping in.

The refund will be pulled from either the held payout or your pending balance. If you do not have a balance it will be pulled from either your card on file or if that doesn't work customer service can pull it from your bank.

rsot 08-25-2023 05:49 AM

Re: bad news buyer asked for refund
 
Sadly, this happens henryfalmore - just move on to other more positive sales

agent006140 08-25-2023 05:55 AM

Re: bad news buyer asked for refund
 
sorry for the negative post everyone. I'm so upset I could cry.
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I think the other is right,find another profession.

agent006140 08-25-2023 06:18 AM

Re: bad news buyer asked for refund
 
Did you test the item before shipping?
next time,take out insurance if it is worth it/

BigLad 08-25-2023 09:33 AM

Re: bad news buyer asked for refund
 
If he did scam you then he would have to be a real ******* to leave you negative feedback as well, lol

henryfalmore 08-25-2023 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 1224302)
did he open a case of item not as described?
if not and you refunded him the item but not shipping,that should be the end .
He could leave negative feedback.
do not threaten him,he could report to Ebay.
he could be telling the truth,it may work on your end ,but not for him

he's not telling the truth. item was in mint condition. i tested the clippers before i sent them and packaged them well

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigLad (Post 1224329)
If he did scam you then he would have to be a real ******* to leave you negative feedback as well, lol

i don't find it funny but I learned my lesson

Quote:

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 1224322)
sorry for the negative post everyone. I'm so upset I could cry.
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I think the other is right,find another profession.

you're annoying

Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 1224321)
Sadly, this happens henryfalmore - just move on to other more positive sales

true. thank you

Hank 08-25-2023 12:57 PM

Re: bad news buyer asked for refund
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BigLad (Post 1224329)
If he did scam you then he would have to be a real ******* to leave you negative feedback as well, lol

Very true indeed. The pro-scammer does not leave feedback nor do they do it from their selling account.

thespitefulchant 08-25-2023 03:19 PM

Re: bad news buyer asked for refund
 
ANY TIME YOU GRANT A VOLUNTARY REFUND, within seller policies ebay has to remove the feedback. Do not forget this !

henryfalmore 08-27-2023 08:29 PM

Re: bad news buyer asked for refund
 
well, buyer left me negative feedback. I have reported buyer and then I submitted a feedback revision request. maybe ebay will remove the negative. now I need to get like 4 positives or so to get my feedback from 96.3% to 100%

oethumb39 08-28-2023 01:32 AM

Re: bad news buyer asked for refund
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by henryfalmore (Post 1224460)
well, buyer left me negative feedback. I have reported buyer and then I submitted a feedback revision request. maybe ebay will remove the negative. now I need to get like 4 positives or so to get my feedback from 96.3% to 100%

contact ebay from the chat and explain your situation to a real person, also tell them you refunded them and they kept a working item for free.

Hank 08-28-2023 01:51 AM

Re: bad news buyer asked for refund
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by henryfalmore (Post 1224460)
well, buyer left me negative feedback. I have reported buyer and then I submitted a feedback revision request. maybe ebay will remove the negative. now I need to get like 4 positives or so to get my feedback from 96.3% to 100%

You'll need a hell of a lot more than four!

Here's the maths...

Say your current feedback is 27 positive, you get a neg. You go from 100% to 96.3%.

You get 4 more positives, you have 31 positives and 1 negative, that's 96.8% positive.

If you get 100 positives it will climb to 99.2%.

Assuming you're not going to do a quick-fire thousand sales then you're stuck with it, ebay will not remove it.

Hank 08-28-2023 01:58 AM

Re: bad news buyer asked for refund
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by oethumb39 (Post 1224466)
contact ebay from the chat and explain your situation to a real person, also tell them you refunded them and they kept a working item for free.

The buyer wanted to return it, the seller decided to instead do a partial refund. The buyer now has faulty goods and is out of pocket. Why on earth would ebay want to help this seller???

The feedback will stay.

Hank 08-28-2023 02:00 AM

Re: bad news buyer asked for refund
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thespitefulchant (Post 1224356)
ANY TIME YOU GRANT A VOLUNTARY REFUND, within seller policies ebay has to remove the feedback. Do not forget this !

The sale was not within the removal policy and they didn't do a full refund!

rsot 08-28-2023 06:56 AM

Re: bad news buyer asked for refund
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hank (Post 1224468)
The buyer wanted to return it, the seller decided to instead do a partial refund. The buyer now has faulty goods and is out of pocket. Why on earth would ebay want to help this seller???

The feedback will stay.

poignant but true

agent006140 08-28-2023 07:39 AM

Re: bad news buyer asked for refund
 
if the seller believes the item is flawless,then she should ask him to return the item and resell.

JamesNorth101 08-28-2023 08:00 AM

Re: bad news buyer asked for refund
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thespitefulchant (Post 1224356)
ANY TIME YOU GRANT A VOLUNTARY REFUND, within seller policies ebay has to remove the feedback. Do not forget this !

Thats not a flat out policy for all returns.

agent006140 08-28-2023 10:14 AM

Re: bad news buyer asked for refund
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101 (Post 1224497)
Thats not a flat out policy for all returns.

buyer can leave negative feedback if he has a bad experience,has nothing to do whether he gets a full refund or get a refund plus keep the item/
Some sellers will bribe the buyer with $$ so he would not leave negative feedback

degsey69 08-28-2023 07:04 PM

Re: bad news buyer asked for refund
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 1224506)
buyer can leave negative feedback if he has a bad experience,has nothing to do whether he gets a full refund or get a refund plus keep the item/
Some sellers will bribe the buyer with $$ so he would not leave negative feedback

That is correct, it is all about the buyer experience and if they have bought a product, wanted to return it and given a refund without return, they are entitled to give feedback relating to this experience, positive or negative.

The only time negative or neutral feedback can be removed, is if the buyer cancels the sale after an auction or where immediate payment is not required, as they have not paid or received the order and can not comment on the buyer experience if the seller allows the cancellation of the sale.

oethumb39 08-29-2023 12:57 AM

Re: bad news buyer asked for refund
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hank (Post 1224468)
The buyer wanted to return it, the seller decided to instead do a partial refund. The buyer now has faulty goods and is out of pocket. Why on earth would ebay want to help this seller???

The feedback will stay.

Sometimes if you get a nice rep on the chat you can show them your prompt willingness to resolve the buyer's complaints plus you gave him a refund/discount. Try at least 2-3 different agents, it may work in your favour.

vettefever17 08-30-2023 10:17 PM

Re: bad news buyer asked for refund
 
I noticed you said the word "clipper". If you are in the name brand and category I think you're selling in, I am also selling products in that area. The buyers can be extremely picky and difficult. Not to mention the language barrier.

weekstonz 09-02-2023 06:51 AM

Re: bad news buyer asked for refund
 
I even sent him the box it came in. (open box never used) he wanted a refund. I just granted it to him via ebay though I'm not refunding the shipping cost. also told him and ebay that he could keep the item.

ebabe 09-02-2023 10:34 AM

Re: bad news buyer asked for refund
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by henryfalmore (Post 1224460)
well, buyer left me negative feedback. I have reported buyer and then I submitted a feedback revision request. maybe ebay will remove the negative. now I need to get like 4 positives or so to get my feedback from 96.3% to 100%

Make sure you don't get feedback revision request confused with feedback removal request, they are two separate things

rsot 09-02-2023 11:13 AM

Re: bad news buyer asked for refund
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by weekstonz (Post 1224767)
I even sent him the box it came in. (open box never used) he wanted a refund. I just granted it to him via ebay though I'm not refunding the shipping cost. also told him and ebay that he could keep the item.

doing way too much for this buyer

banginonwax 09-03-2023 06:48 PM

Re: bad news buyer asked for refund
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BigLad (Post 1224329)
If he did scam you then he would have to be a real ******* to leave you negative feedback as well, lol


lol that’s happened to me before. Got scammed for a 5g router brand new unopened and the buyer opened a not as described. Refunded instantly and they still left negative feedback

henryfalmore 09-03-2023 07:55 PM

Re: bad news buyer asked for refund
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ebabe (Post 1224779)
Make sure you don't get feedback revision request confused with feedback removal request, they are two separate things

thank you. I just did a feedback removal request. ebay's response:

We've received your request to remove this feedback. We'll review it and respond within 8 hours. You can also check Request status for any updates.
If you've had an issue with a buyer, you can also stop them from bidding on or buying any of your items. Just add them to your blocked buyers list. They'll be blocked until you remove them from the list.

agent006140 09-03-2023 08:49 PM

Re: bad news buyer asked for refund
 
what good is keeping the item if it does not work

henryfalmore 09-04-2023 07:32 PM

Re: bad news buyer asked for refund
 
UPDATE:

We reviewed your request to remove the feedback from [lying buyer] for [ITEM]. Unfortunately we won’t be able to remove this comment because it doesn’t violate any of our feedback policies. We understand how important positive feedback is, but giving everyone a chance to share their experiences helps keep our marketplace trusted and fair. This won’t affect your rating as a seller.

Here are some tips for any future issues with buyers
Replying to comments is a great way to tell your side of the story and show other shoppers how you respond when issues come up.
Send a message to your buyer. If you’re able to work things out, you can ask them to change their comments by submitting a feedback revision request.
Get started

If you have any questions or concerns, just get in touch. We’re here to help.

We're glad you're part of our community.
Thanks,
eBay

Please don't reply to this message. It was sent from an address that doesn't accept incoming email.

What's weird is I'm back at 100% and negative is removed.

here is how it looks now:

Positive Feedback (last 12 months): 100%

Member since: Mar-05-23 in United States

1 month 6 months 12 months
Positive 6 30 30
Neutral 0 0 0
Negative 0 0 0

Average for the last 12 months
Accurate description
(29)
Reasonable shipping cost
(29)
Shipping speed
(29)
Communication
(29)

henryfalmore 09-04-2023 07:33 PM

Re: bad news buyer asked for refund
 
Thank you to all who offered me good advice. to all the trolls who mocked me and tried to make me upset. you can burn in Hell!

thank you Aspkin family

rsot 09-05-2023 07:34 AM

Re: bad news buyer asked for refund
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by henryfalmore (Post 1224984)
UPDATE:

We reviewed your request to remove the feedback from [lying buyer] for [ITEM]. Unfortunately we won’t be able to remove this comment because it doesn’t violate any of our feedback policies. We understand how important positive feedback is, but giving everyone a chance to share their experiences helps keep our marketplace trusted and fair. This won’t affect your rating as a seller.

Here are some tips for any future issues with buyers
Replying to comments is a great way to tell your side of the story and show other shoppers how you respond when issues come up.
Send a message to your buyer. If you’re able to work things out, you can ask them to change their comments by submitting a feedback revision request.
Get started

If you have any questions or concerns, just get in touch. We’re here to help.

We're glad you're part of our community.
Thanks,
eBay

Please don't reply to this message. It was sent from an address that doesn't accept incoming email.

What's weird is I'm back at 100% and negative is removed.

here is how it looks now:

Positive Feedback (last 12 months): 100%

Member since: Mar-05-23 in United States

1 month 6 months 12 months
Positive 6 30 30
Neutral 0 0 0
Negative 0 0 0

Average for the last 12 months
Accurate description
(29)
Reasonable shipping cost
(29)
Shipping speed
(29)
Communication
(29)

nice resolution and summary :thumb:

degsey69 09-05-2023 06:07 PM

Re: bad news buyer asked for refund
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by henryfalmore (Post 1224985)
Thank you to all who offered me good advice. to all the trolls who mocked me and tried to make me upset. you can burn in Hell!

thank you Aspkin family

It looks like the big guy in the sky has your back and had the feedback removed.

The righteous will prevail.

Well done.

agent006140 09-05-2023 08:06 PM

Re: bad news buyer asked for refund
 
EBAY is so confusing.

weekstonz 10-30-2023 03:35 AM

Re: bad news buyer asked for refund
 
I just granted it to him via ebay though I'm not refunding the shipping cost. also told him and ebay that he could keep the item.
krnl download
hdstreamz.uno

rsot 10-30-2023 05:41 AM

Re: bad news buyer asked for refund
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by weekstonz (Post 1228569)
I just granted it to him via ebay though I'm not refunding the shipping cost. also told him and ebay that he could keep the item.
krnl download
hdstreamz.uno

not refunding the shipping cost was accepted?

bluefin02 10-31-2023 06:15 PM

Re: bad news buyer asked for refund
 
I think you need a deep look into how you do ebay sales. 1) Anyone can return anything at anytime, even if you don't offer returns. If the item was truly working, maybe bad luck and one off, but is it that hard to sell it again?
Trying to not pay for shipping and just refunding the item is stupid. Let the buyer return the item and if it never comes back, you don't have to refund, if it does come back and its not what you sent, give him 50% refund and move on.
The funds were probably held when he opened a return and will be taken from future sales unless you don't have any future sales, then they will bill your payment source.
if you retaliate and try to leave him negative feedback, I think ebay would (and should) shut your account down and if I was the buyer I would leave you negative feedback as well.

Run an honest business and you won't have any problems (not saying you sold him garbage, but I am saying your way of handing it is garbage :) )

rsot 11-01-2023 05:34 AM

Re: bad news buyer asked for refund
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bluefin02 (Post 1228680)
Trying to not pay for shipping and just refunding the item is stupid. Let the buyer return the item and if it never comes back, you don't have to refund, if it does come back and its not what you sent, give him 50% refund and move on.

Can't say to this on eb ...


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