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stealthnorris 03-04-2024 04:42 AM

ALL New accounts getting Captcha Request
 
Hi

any new accounts Im creating whether im using:

anti detect browser
mozilla Incognito
Separate Use profiles
Separate Mac user

Are all getting captcha request where it makes me pic between a bee or a flower.

From my experience these accounts don't last long after creation or converting to seller


anyone else getting this issue?
whats the solution to fixing it?


Are my laptop fingerprints blacklisted?


Any insight and experience on your end is much appreciated

xakche 03-04-2024 07:07 AM

Re: ALL New accounts getting Captcha Request
 
Whats the point of using antidetect browser ?
Maybe the problem is there ?

rsot 03-04-2024 10:10 AM

Re: ALL New accounts getting Captcha Request
 
I'm not a fan of using anti-detect browser - causes problem with cookies and reputation of user

mtz50 03-04-2024 11:22 AM

Re: ALL New accounts getting Captcha Request
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 1236740)
I'm not a fan of using anti-detect browser - causes problem with cookies and reputation of user

What do you use.

sax4 03-04-2024 12:33 PM

Re: ALL New accounts getting Captcha Request
 
IP address?

solefoodbk 03-04-2024 07:24 PM

Re: ALL New accounts getting Captcha Request
 
This doesn't seem like a good setup, its good to build cookies on an account.

vesania 03-05-2024 08:09 AM

Re: ALL New accounts getting Captcha Request
 
Create them on mobile.

If you still get it, change some information on the email or password.

Like if I do a specific name with numbers 912 at the end. I will either add a couple more numbers and it will go through.

Same with password, try a different password if you get the captcha request.

CHange IP as well if you are getting hit when you try the above.

SaiJin 03-05-2024 08:38 AM

Re: ALL New accounts getting Captcha Request
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stealthnorris (Post 1236722)
Hi

any new accounts Im creating whether im using:

anti detect browser
mozilla Incognito
Separate Use profiles
Separate Mac user

Are all getting captcha request where it makes me pic between a bee or a flower.

From my experience these accounts don't last long after creation or converting to seller


anyone else getting this issue?
whats the solution to fixing it?


Are my laptop fingerprints blacklisted?


Any insight and experience on your end is much appreciated


Stop using anti detect / private browsers etc.

Really, just stick to the basics on the stealth guide . I've had 0 issues to date with it.

stealthnorris 03-05-2024 03:34 PM

Re: ALL New accounts getting Captcha Request
 
As shown in my post

I do all of the following:

anti detect browser
mozilla Incognito
Separate Use profiles
Separate Mac user


Its not just Anti detect. im even getting captcha in separate user accounts, real browsers. ( I use chrome and mozilla)


Its not IP since Im trying both socks5 and also my Verizon Mifi Device.

degsey69 03-05-2024 07:22 PM

Re: ALL New accounts getting Captcha Request
 
The fact is no antidetect browsers, use a pc with sub accounts and ensure that the IP address used is based in the area of the account address. Also if your opening a personal account they will do a soft check for the name against the address.

vesania 03-05-2024 07:26 PM

Re: ALL New accounts getting Captcha Request
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stealthnorris (Post 1236820)
As shown in my post

I do all of the following:

anti detect browser
mozilla Incognito
Separate Use profiles
Separate Mac user


Its not just Anti detect. im even getting captcha in separate user accounts, real browsers. ( I use chrome and mozilla)


Its not IP since Im trying both socks5 and also my Verizon Mifi Device.

I get that to not arguing on that.

What helps is, change the email or change some characters on it and mix up some characters on the password while changing the IP.

It will eventually go through.

I got 3 mobile devices I use to create accounts and they all get it. BUt doing the above will eventually go through.

stealthnorris 03-06-2024 02:47 AM

Re: ALL New accounts getting Captcha Request
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vesania (Post 1236827)
I get that to not arguing on that.

What helps is, change the email or change some characters on it and mix up some characters on the password while changing the IP.

It will eventually go through.

I got 3 mobile devices I use to create accounts and they all get it. BUt doing the above will eventually go through.

Niceee thanks ill try this

OldTom 03-06-2024 12:14 PM

Re: ALL New accounts getting Captcha Request
 
It gets said all too often but nobody seems to listen... look normal.

All these weird set-ups and proxies/V.P.N's just add to the triggering of bot algorithms.

In a simple, no fuss world, what is stopping you from using a new/formatted laptop, a regular browser and a normal internet connection or Mobile hotspot like any other 'regular joe' new seller would.

murdered_by_ebay 03-06-2024 12:46 PM

Re: ALL New accounts getting Captcha Request
 
captcha on new ebay accounts are frequent , more frequent than on older accounts because ebay want to make sure it is not opened by a bot so nothing special here

amazon for example have captcha on all new accounts too , this is because fraudsters use bots to circumvent the system , they mass open accounts knowing that some will always pass

OldTom 03-06-2024 01:06 PM

Re: ALL New accounts getting Captcha Request
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay (Post 1236884)
amazon for example have captcha on all new accounts too , this is because fraudsters use bots to circumvent the system , they mass open accounts knowing that some will always pass

New one on me, I thought they used 2SV or an authenticator to validate ownership.

Never seen a captcha on any of my Amazon accounts, never.

As an aside, how do these 'bots' provide all the information, bank details, phone number etc etc etc required to open an Amazon account and assuming they were successful, avoid 2SV yet get hit with a catpcha?

Only time I've been hit with as captcha on ebay was when on holiday and using a foreign wifi, never had it when managing my accounts from the UK.

banginonwax 03-06-2024 06:20 PM

Re: ALL New accounts getting Captcha Request
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stealthnorris (Post 1236722)
Hi

any new accounts Im creating whether im using:

anti detect browser
mozilla Incognito
Separate Use profiles
Separate Mac user

Are all getting captcha request where it makes me pic between a bee or a flower.

From my experience these accounts don't last long after creation or converting to seller


anyone else getting this issue?
whats the solution to fixing it?


Are my laptop fingerprints blacklisted?


Any insight and experience on your end is much appreciated

Personally I have been getting them for the last few years and I can say from personal experience it more often happens when using mobile ips from hotspots. It does not happen too often when I use home/residential Ips. Generally mobile ips are not 100% accurate with location being around the city you are targetting while residential home ips are.

If you are in the USA using a hotspot sometimes the Ips will be in your city or miles away from your city, but still in your state. This is what I believe triggers the captcha. On the other hand if you have home internet almost certainly it will give IP addresses in your city with the exception being something like Xfinitywifi that like hotspots will generally jump around from different cities, but still in your state.

Karlis96 03-07-2024 04:45 AM

Re: ALL New accounts getting Captcha Request
 
I got them also, when creating account.

Conclusion is - this is some red flag or it is normal ?

murdered_by_ebay 03-07-2024 05:06 AM

Re: ALL New accounts getting Captcha Request
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OldTom (Post 1236898)
New one on me, I thought they used 2SV or an authenticator to validate ownership.

Never seen a captcha on any of my Amazon accounts, never.

As an aside, how do these 'bots' provide all the information, bank details, phone number etc etc etc required to open an Amazon account and assuming they were successful, avoid 2SV yet get hit with a catpcha?

Only time I've been hit with as captcha on ebay was when on holiday and using a foreign wifi, never had it when managing my accounts from the UK.

I meant buyer accounts , there is a tough captcha , on seller accounts it is likely not needed as they would need to go through verification

on buyer accounts there is a hard captcha every time on registration where some thinking may be needed to pass

Karlis96 03-07-2024 05:51 AM

Re: ALL New accounts getting Captcha Request
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay (Post 1236938)
I meant buyer accounts , there is a tough captcha , on seller accounts it is likely not needed as they would need to go through verification

on buyer accounts there is a hard captcha every time on registration where some thinking may be needed to pass

How you can chose it will be seller account or buyer account when you first time come to ebay ?

This captcha is for me also everytime. I have try new computer, with residental IP basically like normal user - anyway i got this captcha after i type name last name email and password.

I think it related to ebay system not your setup.

murdered_by_ebay 03-07-2024 06:34 AM

Re: ALL New accounts getting Captcha Request
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Karlis96 (Post 1236945)
How you can chose it will be seller account or buyer account when you first time come to ebay ?

This captcha is for me also everytime. I have try new computer, with residental IP basically like normal user - anyway i got this captcha after i type name last name email and password.

I think it related to ebay system not your setup.

that was for amazon

for ebay same thing , all accounts get captcha , on new accounts it is stronger as ebay want to prevent bots from opening accounts so nothing special here

rsot 03-07-2024 09:11 AM

Re: ALL New accounts getting Captcha Request
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mtz50 (Post 1236744)
What do you use.

I just use regular edge or chrome on new user accounts

Karlis96 03-07-2024 09:54 AM

Re: ALL New accounts getting Captcha Request
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 1236966)
I just use regular edge or chrome on new user accounts

But your Canvas ID is same for all those accounts, how did you not get banned !!!

stealthnorris 03-07-2024 02:27 PM

Re: ALL New accounts getting Captcha Request
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Karlis96 (Post 1236972)
But your Canvas ID is same for all those accounts, how did you not get banned !!!

So im getting mixed reviews about Canvas ID matching.

Some ppl still claim theyre able to have 20 accounts on same laptop, separate users.

Some say theyre starting to get banned more frequent


My guess is if your canvas ID isnt blacklisted yet youre good .... but wont be for long.

stealthnorris 03-07-2024 02:31 PM

Re: ALL New accounts getting Captcha Request
 
Does using Socks5 Proxy trigger a red flag?


Are residential proxies better? Im thinking of trying to open International accounts.

stealthnorris 03-07-2024 02:35 PM

Re: ALL New accounts getting Captcha Request
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vesania (Post 1236790)
Create them on mobile.

If you still get it, change some information on the email or password.

Like if I do a specific name with numbers 912 at the end. I will either add a couple more numbers and it will go through.

Same with password, try a different password if you get the captcha request.

CHange IP as well if you are getting hit when you try the above.



Would you say its safe to create on mobile

and then manage on an anti detect browser after?

Karlis96 03-08-2024 12:49 AM

Re: ALL New accounts getting Captcha Request
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stealthnorris (Post 1236984)
So im getting mixed reviews about Canvas ID matching.

Some ppl still claim theyre able to have 20 accounts on same laptop, separate users.

Some say theyre starting to get banned more frequent


My guess is if your canvas ID isnt blacklisted yet youre good .... but wont be for long.

Than my is blacklisted. And there is for sure made more than 20 ! So i need to think about canvas ID how to change !

OldTom 03-08-2024 03:17 AM

Re: ALL New accounts getting Captcha Request
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay (Post 1236938)
I meant buyer accounts , there is a tough captcha , on seller accounts it is likely not needed as they would need to go through verification

on buyer accounts there is a hard captcha every time on registration where some thinking may be needed to pass

Why? Why would you muddy the waters by posting about buyer accounts on this thread and not even bother to mention it?

You're a strange one for sure.

murdered_by_ebay 03-08-2024 04:41 AM

Re: ALL New accounts getting Captcha Request
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OldTom (Post 1237010)
Why? Why would you muddy the waters by posting about buyer accounts on this thread and not even bother to mention it?

You're a strange one for sure.

probably because buyer accounts and seller accounts are similar until you start listing

agent006140 03-08-2024 05:01 AM

Re: ALL New accounts getting Captcha Request
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OldTom (Post 1236878)
It gets said all too often but nobody seems to listen... look normal.

All these weird set-ups and proxies/V.P.N's just add to the triggering of bot algorithms.

In a simple, no fuss world, what is stopping you from using a new/formatted laptop, a regular browser and a normal internet connection or Mobile hotspot like any other 'regular joe' new seller would.

----------------
I agree,there are too many sellers and not enough buyers in a weak economy,killing a few weak sellers is good for the remaining sellers.
The strong ones survive

OldTom 03-08-2024 07:17 AM

Re: ALL New accounts getting Captcha Request
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay (Post 1237017)
probably because buyer accounts and seller accounts are similar until you start listing

Then why even try to wriggle out of your nonsense claim by making the discrimination in your reply!

FYI, they're not remotely similar, see what you get hit with if you try and create a listing on Amazon from your newly created buyer account.

Sometimes I wonder if you're even a seller with some of the inaccurate and misleading post you make compounded with your deliberate muddying of the waters with this "I'm talking about buyer accounts" stupidity.

murdered_by_ebay 03-08-2024 07:23 AM

Re: ALL New accounts getting Captcha Request
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OldTom (Post 1237030)
Then why even try to wriggle out of your nonsense claim by making the discrimination in your reply!

FYI, they're not remotely similar, see what you get hit with if you try and create a listing on Amazon from your newly created buyer account.

Sometimes I wonder if you're even a seller with some of the inaccurate and misleading post you make compounded with your deliberate muddying of the waters with this "I'm talking about buyer accounts" stupidity.

I still can not understand , do you deny that both ebay and amazon require captcha during account registration?

I do not have inaccurate posts , you just do not like what I write as it hurts like my recent posts about amazon being able to access supplier databases , whether you like or not , it is reality , just like captcha on account registrations

OldTom 03-08-2024 07:29 AM

Re: ALL New accounts getting Captcha Request
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay (Post 1237031)
I do not have inaccurate posts , you just do not like what I write as it hurts like my recent posts about amazon being able to access supplier databases , whether you like or not , it is reality , just like captcha on account registrations


LMAO, you've got me laughing again about your insanely ridiculous claim Amazon have access to our wholesaler databases.

I can 100% guarantee, as will other sellers, that they do not have access to my supplier data.

You're a strange guy.

murdered_by_ebay 03-08-2024 08:31 AM

Re: ALL New accounts getting Captcha Request
 
you have no way to guarantee it with large suppliers authorized by amazon


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