| | | ahmaed | 03-03-2025 06:20 PM | How much sales can personal eBay reach before being hit by MC011? How much sales can personal eBay reach before being hit by MC011? |
| ahmaed | 03-03-2025 06:21 PM | Re: How much sales can personal eBay reach before being hit by MC011? two accounts hit by MC011 after reaching $10k! |
| SaiJin | 03-03-2025 09:04 PM | Re: How much sales can personal eBay reach before being hit by MC011? 10K is a lot.... |
| Karlis96 | 03-04-2025 12:44 AM | Re: How much sales can personal eBay reach before being hit by MC011? You can get hit also after first sold item. |
| murdered_by_ebay | 03-04-2025 04:07 AM | Re: How much sales can personal eBay reach before being hit by MC011? that is not just how much but: how much + what + how fast
if you want to have a turnover of 10K per month it would take you 1-2 years of account development
if you mean 10K made in total on a recent account then you could use the following math - you start with $500 per month and increase by 20% every month
this is how you do not get mc011ed
separate topic is what you sell , anything above $50 is considered expensive , anything above $100-$200 is super expensive |
| agent006140 | 03-04-2025 06:42 AM | Re: How much sales can personal eBay reach before being hit by MC011? separate topic is what you sell , anything above $50 is considered expensive , anything above $100-$200 is super expensive
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Total nonsense,how can any venue pay its bills?
The last time I looked,gold sells very welll,there are some gold dealers who sell gold in 6 figures,no MP,wiretransfer only.
Major gold dealers all sell on Ebay,also some on Walmart.
Hint-these dealers have their own websites, |
| murdered_by_ebay | 03-04-2025 06:49 AM | Re: How much sales can personal eBay reach before being hit by MC011? open an account and try to sell gold , good luck with that |
| agent006140 | 03-04-2025 08:20 AM | Re: How much sales can personal eBay reach before being hit by MC011? Quote:
Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay
(Post 1254305)
open an account and try to sell gold , good luck with that | It works for these precious metal dealers,many individuals do as well,there is an Ebay saying -dont sell anything you cant afford to lose,that includes gold and everything else.
I sold a piece recently,to a dealer he is very happy,unfortunately I am not happy with the fees. |
| SaiJin | 03-04-2025 10:28 AM | Re: How much sales can personal eBay reach before being hit by MC011? Quote:
Originally Posted by Karlis96
(Post 1254300)
You can get hit also after first sold item. | Yea, that's the typical hit . But it's mostly just them confirming your biz plan |
Re: How much sales can personal eBay reach before being hit by MC011? Quote:
Originally Posted by agent006140
(Post 1254306)
It works for these precious metal dealers,many individuals do as well,there is an Ebay saying -dont sell anything you cant afford to lose,that includes gold and everything else.
I sold a piece recently,to a dealer he is very happy,unfortunately I am not happy with the fees. | Did you get the payment via transfer or still went via MP? |
| Blasko | 03-04-2025 03:27 PM | Re: How much sales can personal eBay reach before being hit by MC011? Mate you didnt tell us in which period of time (10$ k). How old account, category. You missed a lot of important details. |
| solefoodbk | 03-04-2025 03:35 PM | Re: How much sales can personal eBay reach before being hit by MC011? I upgraded a personal account to business, and at most have done $13k monthly (december) off a 6 month cycle. I don't think passing $15k is smart, so I've maintained mine around $7k-$10k per month. After a year of this monthly, maybe not personal but business I think it's safe to explore $15k+.
I try to always remind myself that its better to have a guaranteed lower amount from eBay than try to risk it, play games, and extend too much to quickly. It always ends the same for me. This is the first time since I started eBay back in 2013-2015 that I've taken a extreme serious approach to make sure I monitor all my service metrics, and keep sales limited to what I could do. |
| murdered_by_ebay | 03-04-2025 04:01 PM | Re: How much sales can personal eBay reach before being hit by MC011? it is always better to have multiple accounts , for a recent account 10K are a lot even if it is not within a month but within 3 months |
| agent006140 | 03-04-2025 04:41 PM | Re: How much sales can personal eBay reach before being hit by MC011? Quote:
Originally Posted by rsot
(Post 1254314)
Did you get the payment via transfer or still went via MP? | I listed it on Ebay and this gold dealer from Midwest bought it ,and he paid via MP.
The cc and Ebay fees is just too much.plus USPS priority shipping plus insurance. and signature confirmation.
Some seller try to minimise fees by open a small shop on Ebay,she said it was $35/month with limited listing but the FVF is less. |
| ahmaed | 03-04-2025 06:37 PM | Re: How much sales can personal eBay reach before being hit by MC011? Quote:
Originally Posted by Blasko
(Post 1254330)
Mate you didnt tell us in which period of time (10$ k). How old account, category. You missed a lot of important details. | One year seller account and many categories not specific |
| Blasko | 03-05-2025 03:25 AM | Re: How much sales can personal eBay reach before being hit by MC011? Quote:
Originally Posted by ahmaed
(Post 1254343)
One year seller account and many categories not specific | So you earned 10k in 1 year period, right? |
| ahmaed | 03-05-2025 07:03 AM | Re: How much sales can personal eBay reach before being hit by MC011? Quote:
Originally Posted by Blasko
(Post 1254356)
So you earned 10k in 1 year period, right? | No, the account is one year old, but the sale is $10,000 happened in 3-month period |
| ahmaed | 03-05-2025 07:06 AM | Re: How much sales can personal eBay reach before being hit by MC011? Quote:
Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay
(Post 1254333)
it is always better to have multiple accounts , for a recent account 10K are a lot even if it is not within a month but within 3 months | the account age is one year old as a seller but with no selling history, but the last three month I have sales in $10k |
| ahmaed | 03-05-2025 07:14 AM | Re: How much sales can personal eBay reach before being hit by MC011? Quote:
Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay
(Post 1254302)
that is not just how much but: how much + what + how fast
if you want to have a turnover of 10K per month it would take you 1-2 years of account development
if you mean 10K made in total on a recent account then you could use the following math - you start with $500 per month and increase by 20% every month
this is how you do not get mc011ed
separate topic is what you sell , anything above $50 is considered expensive , anything above $100-$200 is super expensive |
If I create a business account, will the same rules apply? |
Re: How much sales can personal eBay reach before being hit by MC011? Quote:
Originally Posted by ahmaed
(Post 1254362)
If I create a business account, will the same rules apply? | Yes - same rules apply - you should still sell slowly.
10k in 3 months is quite the figure - amazing though |
| solefoodbk | 03-05-2025 12:32 PM | Re: How much sales can personal eBay reach before being hit by MC011? I took an aged account from 2018 that had history buying, and started selling Sept, by December I did $14k. I guess thinking back I shouldn't have, but now I know if I stay below $12,500 my account is smooth sailing since I already tested those waters.
We have different factors, because every item has a completely different risk level with eBay.
The 3 month mark is most critical, then 6 months, I think after this a well managed account getting random MC011 is pretty low. |
| murdered_by_ebay | 03-05-2025 12:47 PM | Re: How much sales can personal eBay reach before being hit by MC011? Quote:
Originally Posted by ahmaed
(Post 1254362)
If I create a business account, will the same rules apply? | business is even worse because they think you want to sell heaps
reasonable people who had their asses kicked by ebay many times would start private and upgrade to business later |
| ahmaed | 03-05-2025 05:25 PM | Re: How much sales can personal eBay reach before being hit by MC011? Quote:
Originally Posted by solefoodbk
(Post 1254379)
I took an aged account from 2018 that had history buying, and started selling Sept, by December I did $14k. I guess thinking back I shouldn't have, but now I know if I stay below $12,500 my account is smooth sailing since I already tested those waters.
We have different factors, because every item has a completely different risk level with eBay.
The 3-month mark is most critical, then 6 months, I think after this a well managed account getting random MC011 is pretty low. | so the key here is to upgrade gradually for 3 months then 6 months; then I can make sales with no limits.
I am wondering what the benefit of account limits is if they dont allow to use all the limits they offer! |
| murdered_by_ebay | 03-05-2025 06:24 PM | Re: How much sales can personal eBay reach before being hit by MC011? the official limits are not related to bot activity and risk management
it is essentially the same system they have on paypal , people get suspended out of thin air for selling too much. it does not take any complaints or violations and paypal have limits as well but these limits do not matter
the key to understanding this system is the realization that ebay do not want anybody to know how they really work , the actual rules that are enforced so that people can not learn how to circumvent that
for example , if they stated officially that limits do not matter and you just have to increase the turnover by 15%-20% per month to avoid suspension then people would be doing exactly that and it would be much more difficult to suspend them because there are just too many accounts whose turnover does not rise rapidly so that the ones circumventing that would be hiding in an ocean of other accounts and would be much more difficult to spot |
| ahmaed | 03-05-2025 06:33 PM | Re: How much sales can personal eBay reach before being hit by MC011? Quote:
Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay
(Post 1254393)
the official limits are not related to bot activity and risk management
it is essentially the same system they have on paypal , people get suspended out of thin air for selling too much. it does not take any complaints or violations and paypal have limits as well but these limits do not matter
the key to understanding this system is the realization that ebay do not want anybody to know how they really work , the actual rules that are enforced so that people can not learn how to circumvent that
for example , if they stated officially that limits do not matter and you just have to increase the turnover by 15%-20% per month to avoid suspension then people would be doing exactly that and it would be much more difficult to suspend them because there are just too many accounts whose turnover does not rise rapidly so that the ones circumventing that would be hiding in an ocean of other accounts and would be much more difficult to spot | Great information, so if I raise my sales by 15-20% each month, I can sell with no limits |
| SaiJin | 03-05-2025 06:53 PM | Re: How much sales can personal eBay reach before being hit by MC011? Quote:
Originally Posted by ahmaed
(Post 1254360)
No, the account is one year old, but the sale is $10,000 happened in 3-month period | It's not unheard of at $3k/mo |
| ahmaed | 03-05-2025 06:55 PM | Re: How much sales can personal eBay reach before being hit by MC011? Quote:
Originally Posted by SaiJin
(Post 1254395)
It's not unheard of at $3k/mo | So, it's okay? |
| SaiJin | 03-05-2025 06:56 PM | Re: How much sales can personal eBay reach before being hit by MC011? Quote:
Originally Posted by ahmaed
(Post 1254398)
So, it's okay? | I'd prefer to do 1k/mo honestly. but 3k isn't unheard of. |
| solefoodbk | 03-05-2025 09:31 PM | Re: How much sales can personal eBay reach before being hit by MC011? Quote:
Originally Posted by ahmaed
(Post 1254391)
so the key here is to upgrade gradually for 3 months then 6 months; then I can make sales with no limits.
I am wondering what the benefit of account limits is if they dont allow to use all the limits they offer! | There is no benefit other than it reduces the calls they probably got from people asking for limit increases.
They are nice to have in a way because before you'd start with at best usually 100/5000 limits, but that never meant anything to me. I get my sales by listing 100k+ inventory, and making about 20% income off that. Its a numbers game, so its not like everything I list will sell that month.
The problems people mistake is seeing that high limit thinking you can turn whatever amount of sales you wish, which is not the case. |
| murdered_by_ebay | 03-05-2025 09:46 PM | Re: How much sales can personal eBay reach before being hit by MC011? Quote:
Originally Posted by ahmaed
(Post 1254394)
Great information, so if I raise my sales by 15-20% each month, I can sell with no limits | 15%-20% turnover growth per month is essentially your limit , not the bogus one provided by ebay but the real one |
| andro0_11 | 03-11-2025 08:51 AM | Re: How much sales can personal eBay reach before being hit by MC011? From my experience it seems like quite random. For example, two different accounts, that was used for years doing thousands/month. One of them were even pushing higher and never got MC011. The other had a week in which were doing around 800-1000/day for couple days and got served MC011 couple days after it popped in sales. I've know people who got MC011 that were selling low priced items and doing less than 1k in turnover a month. |
| eBaysnightmare | 03-11-2025 10:09 AM | Re: How much sales can personal eBay reach before being hit by MC011? Quote:
Originally Posted by andro0_11
(Post 1254644)
From my experience it seems like quite random. For example, two different accounts, that was used for years doing thousands/month. One of them were even pushing higher and never got MC011. The other had a week in which were doing around 800-1000/day for couple days and got served MC011 couple days after it popped in sales. I've know people who got MC011 that were selling low priced items and doing less than 1k in turnover a month. | Yeah true brother. It doesn’t matter if account is super aged with lots of sales or rarely new with few sales. Any suspension code can trigger at any point. |
| murdered_by_ebay | 03-11-2025 01:02 PM | Re: How much sales can personal eBay reach before being hit by MC011? you can do some calculations , calculate average turnover for the last 6 months and call it 100% , then calculate how it was changing
I am sure in all cases you will see massive jumps that triggered the bots
it is a major problem on ebay , although they have billions of dollars they do not want to run proper customer support. bots restrict you and when you appeal they just confirm the decision of the bots |
| ahmaed | 03-11-2025 01:40 PM | Re: How much sales can personal eBay reach before being hit by MC011? Quote:
Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay
(Post 1254659)
you can do some calculations , calculate average turnover for the last 6 months and call it 100% , then calculate how it was changing
I am sure in all cases you will see massive jumps that triggered the bots
it is a major problem on ebay , although they have billions of dollars they do not want to run proper customer support. bots restrict you and when you appeal they just confirm the decision of the bots ., only exception are accounts that run loads of cheap items but if it is an account that has high turnover and a few sales it is as good as dead | Why always it is risky to have high turnover? |
| murdered_by_ebay | 03-11-2025 03:46 PM | Re: How much sales can personal eBay reach before being hit by MC011? ebay use primitive calculations , you can increase your turnover but about 10%-20% per month
if you stop selling for a while , like for 6-12 and more months you have to start low again
they don't care if you have been customer for 20 years , you stopped selling for a couple of years and you just relist items that are stored with a third party app for example in order to sell like you did before and they kick you out
if you want to do 10K per month you start at 500-1000 and increase by 20% every month
after a 2-3 years of such work you could safely do 20/30/40K in abscence of other problems but you should not stop selling , it must be continuous
it is another question though if it would not be better to have 10 doing 4 , instead of 1 doing 40
ebay behave like a mafia racket , you have to pay - no one cares how the business is running. you stop paying the mafia will punish you but this punishment is not obvious to everyone because it is not imposed upon people after they stopped selling but after they restarted selling |
| SaiJin | 03-11-2025 08:14 PM | Re: How much sales can personal eBay reach before being hit by MC011? Quote:
Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay
(Post 1254667)
ebay use primitive calculations , you can increase your turnover but about 10%-20% per month
if you stop selling for a while , like for 6-12 and more months you have to start low again
they don't care if you have been customer for 20 years , you stopped selling for a couple of years and you just relist items that are stored with a third party app for example in order to sell like you did before and they kick you out
if you want to do 10K per month you start at 500-1000 and increase by 20% every month
after a 2-3 years of such work you could safely do 20/30/40K in abscence of other problems but you should not stop selling , it must be continuous
it is another question though if it would not be better to have 10 doing 4 , instead of 1 doing 40
ebay behave like a mafia racket , you have to pay - no one cares how the business is running. you stop paying the mafia will punish you but this punishment is not obvious to everyone because it is not imposed upon people after they stopped selling but after they restarted selling |
Eh? maybe that's just you.
reused a shelved account from 2 years ago, went right back in and I was just fine. |
| murdered_by_ebay | 03-11-2025 08:57 PM | Re: How much sales can personal eBay reach before being hit by MC011? maybe you were fine , I know quite a few people who are not fine , not fine at all |
Re: How much sales can personal eBay reach before being hit by MC011? Quote:
Originally Posted by SaiJin
(Post 1254675)
Eh? maybe that's just you.
reused a shelved account from 2 years ago, went right back in and I was just fine. | What kind of activity did you do to restart it? For example, how many listings you considered safely? |
| andro0_11 | 03-12-2025 10:58 AM | Re: How much sales can personal eBay reach before being hit by MC011? Quote:
Originally Posted by SaiJin
(Post 1254675)
Eh? maybe that's just you.
reused a shelved account from 2 years ago, went right back in and I was just fine. | I also had a discussion with someone, literally couple hours ago about MC011 restrictions. And he told me about using one of his old accounts (unused after MP was added). Basically signed for MP end of last year (October). Right now doing almost close to 10K monthly turnover - haven't received any MC011s or additional asks from Ebay. Which also adds to that randomness I've personally experienced, what you pointed and other have shared |
| 0nelove | 03-24-2025 07:31 PM | Re: How much sales can personal eBay reach before being hit by MC011? I grossed 80k for several years on my personal acc , I don't think business acc matters
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