Anyone Know about the New EBAY Rules?

[pod]

Originally Posted by IDK

At least you get the BS out of the way up front leaving you to focus more on selling than biting your fingernails every time you login.

For sure. I wish there was a link you could do it voluntarily. On PayPal too. Get it behind you and then you can rest easier.

[MadSam]

Originally Posted by pod

For sure. I wish there was a link you could do it voluntarily. On PayPal too. Get it behind you and then you can rest easier.

There are ways to nudge it along though.

[mphinney]

This suspension was clearly marked as a registeration suspention, it had nothing to do with the items. ID verified with proof of license or passport and utility bills. The only thing that they asked is that I provide invoices or reciepts for items I PLAN to sell. If they were going to be items around the house, then a note stating items around the house is what I was going to sell.

[jbluntz]

Originally Posted by saijin

Hmm.... I haven't done my hw on Graco, so that company is bad too huh?

They sell it on Dhgate so yeah, I would think so.

[isitworththestress]

I suspect this is all down to the amounts ebay are loosing in none payment of fees and as they have been using a debt collector in the UK and probably got no response, as they do not know if any of the people on their site are real people or not, so this is an ebay half arsed way to try and fix that problem.

I do wonder are they actually able to call up the license number or not? or is it just the image. Has anyone had ebay say their ⊗⊗⊗⊗ is ⊗⊗⊗⊗, as the numbers do not match with the system?

A funny point on this I just scanned my driving license the other day and it looks like a ⊗⊗⊗⊗, so god knows what it will look like after it has been through a fax machine and black and white.

[stickmade]

I really think that this is true... my two new accounts that i made around a month ago.. i started selling on them.. and both ebays were hit for documents (MC081)

It looks like ebay are really doing this, like two accounts in one week were hit!!


I sent in documents yesterday and waiting word back, i had to get creative so ill let you know if they think its ⊗⊗⊗⊗ or not, it look like **** going through fax but hey who knows it may work lol

Originally Posted by isitworththestress

I suspect this is all down to the amounts ebay are loosing in none payment of fees and as they have been using a debt collector in the UK and probably got no response, as they do not know if any of the people on their site are real people or not, so this is an ebay half arsed way to try and fix that problem.

I do wonder are they actually able to call up the license number or not? or is it just the image. Has anyone had ebay say their ⊗⊗⊗⊗ is ⊗⊗⊗⊗, as the numbers do not match with the system?

A funny point on this I just scanned my driving license the other day and it looks like a ⊗⊗⊗⊗, so god knows what it will look like after it has been through a fax machine and black and white.

[bansheezone]

I have 6 new accounts running right now, x3 month old accounts and x3 1 week old and have zero feedback on all of them. Items listed and sold on fully stealth info with no i.d verification, something you did got you flagged there is no way they are going to try and verfiy all new sellers. The only thing I did see was a new page when trying to open a sellers account.

[isitworththestress]

stickmade

Should be interesting to know how it goes.

Originally Posted by bansheezone

I have 6 new accounts running right now, x3 month old accounts and x3 1 week old and have zero feedback on all of them. Items listed and sold on fully stealth info with no i.d verification, something you did got you flagged there is no way they are going to try and verfiy all new sellers. The only thing I did see was a new page when trying to open a sellers account.

Did you add a card or other bank details into your ebay account?
Are you selling as a business?
New or used goods?
Are all accounts from same region?

I am also wondering if algorithms could be being used here. Anyone recall the points to actions system? For each action you get a point and they go after those with selected points.

There just seems too many people finding it happen to people that have had no contact with ebay.

[jeffweico]

Plan for the worst and hope for the best.

Figure out what method you would use to get around this, and have everything in place in case eBay demands the information.

That way you are covered no matter what happens. If they don't ask for it, great. But if they do, you will already have a plan in place to deal with it.

Where people are going to get tripped up is if eBay requests the documentation, and then you fax them a week later. Those accounts will get more scrutiny.

My advice would be prepared to fax them within 24-48 hours. Anything else might look suspicious to them.

[bansheezone]

everyone has there own method, I like to use 11/07 accounts from Kevin. But I have been creating and using my own accounts with no problems. I use total b.s info from the same regions, Vanilla visa gift cards, vumber, and gmail. I can sell with zero feedback from these accounts but do stay under 5 till I build up 10fb and then I let them cool down for a month, make 3 new ones and then rotate them back and forth with and without Paypal some use my merchants account.

I did get hit once months back on a 11/07 I messed up creating properly.

[isitworththestress]

I just wonder has anyone seen an increase in staff advertised anywhere? They can't be doing this with just the skeleton crew they normally have, as it would take months.

Also with the items purchased. What happens if you start each account buying items off ebay and then sell them on as your first sales?

[jamblix]

I made a new account last month started selling this month and haven't received any bad news yet. Went up to about $630 in sales with non-policed VeRO items.

[JEM]

it just seems to be really bad business , to let a seller list an item, get bidders on it, then yank the listing down and suspend the seller while they do their colonoscopy

if they want to limit things, why not give you the message before you list?
By yanking the listing and suspending the seller they undermine buyer confidence ( how would you feel if you were a bidder on that item) and upset the seller.

it is just beyond me...

[romeo216]

I created 3 accounts after September 7. Paypal banned one based on what I was selling. The other 2 are still running. I have nearly $5000 in sales on one of the accounts. I haven't had any problems with ebay demanding id or proof of what I'm going to sell.

It just seems like a complicated process for ebay to complete.

[stickmade]

On these two accounts i did add VCC's to ebay for the automatic fee payment. were i would usually just add paypal. Im convinced this is what triggered it, also, i was selling the same thing on each, and they were not to far apart.

But, the not to far apart thing hasn't effected me in the past as i have good standing accounts, selling the same stuff, that are within walking distance of each other..

[ebayerOG]

bloody hell i realy hope this aint true im in the middle of setting up my stealth account its a must for me to get back on ebay otherwise im back to square 1 of looking for a job :( im about to cry.any 1 else with any info on all this

[bansheezone]

Originally Posted by stickmade

On these two accounts i did add VCC's to ebay for the automatic fee payment. were i would usually just add paypal. Im convinced this is what triggered it, also, i was selling the same thing on each, and they were not to far apart.

But, the not to far apart thing hasn't effected me in the past as i have good standing accounts, selling the same stuff, that are within walking distance of each other..

this is what definitley causes a red flag in my opinion, vcc's are a no-no

Dont worry guys who knows how the OP set up the account. I made 2 accounts yesterday and stuff is selling with no problems.

[dvdzworld]

Originally Posted by mphinney

I opened a new ebay "stealth" account. Used a different IP, used a family members name, address, email and bank acct. info. On Both ebay and paypal. Let them both sit for about a week or two. Set the ebay up first, phone verified with a vumber number. Then went through the hole thing with paypal. Connected the two. Then listed only 2 items around 10:00 pm. The next day, logged in under a different ip and saw I had a bid on 1 of the 2 items and both had about 10 watches already. Went to work for the day, knowing I could not check the account from work because I used to access my banned account from there.
Got home, logged in and found a big fat RED account suspended notice. Said it was due to some registration code. So used my vumber number and gave them a call, stating that I was (my family member name). Told them I was new at this ebay thing, what did I do wrong. They simply told me, that I had done nothing wrong, that ebay is setting new rules when it comes to new sellers. The rule will change for all sellers on September 7,2010 but new sellers they are pretty much stopping right off the bat.
From this point on any old ebay seller and new one will need to fax in a copy of their license front and back, a utility bill showing proof of residency and any receipts or invoices for the items they intend to sell. If your only selling items around the house, then a letter must be submitted to say that.
She did clearly state I had done nothing wrong it's just that the rules are going to change and this is going to be required of ALL existing sellers.
Has anyone else heard about this? If this is the case, stealth accounts will no longer work unless we have tons of family members ready to give us their info.
Since being shut down, I have found that ebid.net is very good. Have items up for less than 1 day, though no bids yet, many, many views. My prices are the same as they were on ebay and my items sold extremely well. Also finding that there are tons of people leaving ebay for ebid.net and are selling well. If your account hasn't been banned and you have good feedback they will let you import it to get off to a good start.
Anyway, just wondering if anyone has heard about this new rule and where will that leave stealth accounts from here on out?

Big wave of problems coming from ebay, not sure what has changed. Here is the situation. One of our power seller and top seller account was hit and asked for verification papers and proof of things we sell are authentic, this happen out of the blue, never had anything such as this, they are getting very anal about this. After documents sent, account closed, not possible to appeal it, another 4 small accounts, different ips, everything is different. Keep in mine I am very experienced in ebay sales. All accounts all carefully created, no ip matches, no same cookies etc, Here is what is happening now, accounts can take in anywhere from 10 - 60 thousand dollars of sales, no problem, paypal limited reinstated no problem there as well. But now ebay started to verify papers, it is impossible to get around this, at least I didn't figure out a way yet. Why they are asking to fax papers if paypal is doing the same, with paypal all documents fine, with ebay, nothing goes through once you get B001 messege, that's about it. This is possible the reason why they don't reply for a week in regards to your fax, possible because of some sort of new polices in place and many users are faxing in their documents, can we all say we are screwed, or am I wrong?, Please any input, into this, is this really happening?

[JEM]

is it possible that they are doing this to vero item sellers? to all that this has happened to , are you selling items of risk?

I can't see ebay doing this to every uncle barney selling his wrench from the garage. It has to be name brands, designer, or risk items?

[dvdzworld]

Originally Posted by jbuntz

Here's the new user agreement right here, I don't see anything in there about new or existing sellers having to fax in documents.

TOSBack | EBay User Agreement

Replying to your post above, Paypal also does not require users to fax any documents initially when you sign up, however you would need to do so at some point of paypal's account life, With Ebay paying out their money to ebay buyers for items not as described or not received without touching any money in paypal account, I believe that is the reason they are now will be asking for all verification documents to lower their risk of complains, after all, ebay is now taking part of resolution process between buyer and seller, Ebay at the point of returning money back to the buyer has no recourse to recover their funds once refund is completed back to the buyer. Ebay has no right to touch any money in paypal account. While paypal and ebay are the same company, they are separate. Just my input. But that is right to the point of the issue. Let me know what you guys think?

[dvdzworld]

Originally Posted by JEM

is it possible that they are doing this to vero item sellers? to all that this has happened to , are you selling items of risk?

I can't see ebay doing this to every uncle barney selling his wrench from the garage. It has to be name brands, designer, or risk items?

You are right they are not, if you are selling no name items or out of your house items it should be no problem, but aren't we on ebay to make money and not simple clear out our garage?, I am not talking about P90X or any beachbody products, Yes it is brand name item that paypal is fine with any invoice, but it seems Ebay is not. We are talking about as seen on tv products, Ab Circle pro, or tower 200, they are not Vero items and do are not taken off ebay by Vero. They are allowed to be sold on ebay, old account you can still sell them no problem, new accounts, even that have been aged for 3 or so month, when listed even one or 2 of them that's about it, you are hit with papers to submit, 90% of ebay all ⊗⊗⊗⊗, we all know this fact, if they start hitting all sellers, what can buyers and sellers possible buy and sell?, this puzzles me.

[dvdzworld]

Any way around this, anyone else with similar problems, Please post...