What do you think of Ebay? Scam or...

sam123 · #1 11-12-2010

To start with i will say first that, how many of you say that Ebay is Scam and how many say it's not. Read my experience and let us know what do you think now.

Here is one my experience with Ebay, I was in one of the Asian countries and an once i started my new account i verify Paypal an Ebay with CC to start and than confirm my Bank account with Paypal later. After few listing i got a call from Ebay CS for verification my phone no. and other details. Ok that was good now, i was getting phone calls regularly from Ebay CS and from account manager, yes you heard it right account manager. He introduce me his name and provide me his personal cell no. and give me brief information about Ebay, at some point he ask me some questions that do you know this(for eg. like how to end listing early) i said no ( even though i knew it but just pretending

), and he said you can call me anytime until between 9:00 am to 11.30pm. if i have any issue with Ebay.

Ok so i was going good and within 3 months i made 140 positive feedback's and all above 4.7 DSR's ( its low but all high value). Now i was starting listing my best items as i was receiving good feedback's.

Now one day i receive call from account manager saying that you are really doing good, do you want any help from me how is your experience with all the buyers, i said no all is going well no problem. Now he starting discussion with me about some of my particular listing and he said how much you think that it will sell i said amount around XXXX, he said can i bid on the item say amount XXX, i said sure if you like it and want to buy you can bid, than he said no i just want to bid. I started thinking for a few seconds and than realized that he was talking about shill biding. I said ok. Now he said at the end that if you want me to increase bid i can call him.

So that's how it started and at that point i thought that this is the reason why prices go up in Ebay. I can't leave Ebay because its like addiction and i am doing this full time, so i don't have other scope.

Don't get me wrong but i will still not say Ebay a Scam even though they are violation there own policy, Ebay is my livelihood.

OK guys that was my experience any similar or other experience you have faced with Ebay or Paypal.

pod · #2 11-12-2010

An ebay employee called you and while on the phone bid on your item to raise price? Then asked you to call him back if you wanted him to bid higher?

Seriously?

You say account manager. Are you a TRS?

sam123 · #3 11-13-2010

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Originally Posted by pod

An ebay employee called you and while on the phone bid on your item to raise price? Then asked you to call him back if you wanted him to bid higher?

Seriously?

You say account manager. Are you a TRS?

Yes man seriously. Do you think that i am getting paid posting this information, its no point of telling lie.

Yes Account manager. By the way what is TRS.

pod · #4 11-13-2010

I wasn't calling you a lair dude! I was just expressing shock.

Top rated seller. i was asking as maybe you were getting special treatment. I've never heard of staff doing anything like this

sam123 · #5 11-13-2010

No i was not TRS at that point. well yes it was shocked to me as well.

sam123 · #6 11-13-2010

Also to add with it was not the special treatment to me at least i know one country where these Account Manager call seller.

People from those region knows what i am talking about Account Manager.

I don't know may be people don't want to reveal this secret, cause they are enjoying it.

jeffweico · #7 11-13-2010

This has to be a rogue account manager. It cannot be eBay policy. If it ever got out that eBay was colluding with sellers to artifically raise prices, that would be the END of eBay. Nobody would trust them any longer.

123 · #8 11-13-2010

Maybe a new account manager trying to raise his stats or reach his quota by frauding the system, either way this is very shocking to say the least.

newtools · #9 11-13-2010

hard to believe, what kind of proof do we have of any of this?

sam123 · #10 11-13-2010

I have his contact no. and what item he bid on its in the history, but do you think that it how anything can be proved. I have not recorded the conversation, as it was incidental at that time. But still i dont want that guy to be in trouble.

My point is what do all think about Ebay and any other experience you guys can share.

Imback2010 · #11 11-13-2010

maybe you just found a bored ebay employee......lol who is mad at the system for whatever reason......and wanted to screw them over...and just wanted to honestly help you out....

really it doesnt make any sense....no offense

sam123 · #12 11-13-2010

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Originally Posted by Imback2010

maybe you just found a bored ebay employee......lol who is mad at the system for whatever reason......and wanted to screw them over...and just wanted to honestly help you out....

really it doesnt make any sense....no offense

Good one, but he is still helping Ebay cause they will receive more fees, if item is sold at higher price.

Imback2010 · #13 11-13-2010

but he is still breaking the rules.... and you do come off better at the end of the day...in this one case ofcourse

And ebay hates it when you dont follow rules.

sam123 · #14 11-13-2010

Of course i am out, and way far from it. I know when i am selling genuine things by hard earned money and i don't want to get screwed.

I was just sharing my experience.

Imback2010 · #15 11-13-2010

Thank You for sharing your experience

and please keep us updated on the situation.... Thats the beauty of the the internet and this forum in general we all get to help eachother out

if it wasnt for this forum... I would have had to work a 9 to 5......lol

revskank · #16 11-13-2010

I want an account manager to shill bid my items! lol
I could make a killing if ebay provided this service for all its cutomers!
Be careful though, the call could have been recorded his end and they could use this against you to close your account at a later date as you agreed to his offer to shill bid your items. I think they could easily make you look like the guilty party in all this!

sam123 · #17 11-13-2010

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Originally Posted by revskank

I want an account manager to shill bid my items! lol
I could make a killing if ebay provided this service for all its cutomers!
Be careful though, the call could have been recorded his end and they could use this against you to close your account at a later date as you agreed to his offer to shill bid your items. I think they could easily make you look like the guilty party in all this!

What are you talking about, i never approach him he did, so even though they have recorded the conversation, they will be in trouble not me. Ok

Any way i don't let any hint for anyone as i already moved to other account. I know how to play around.

revskank · #18 11-13-2010

I didn't say you approached him but you did agree to let him do it for you.

sam123 · #19 11-13-2010

All is over man, i have already deleted that account

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Don't tell me about breaking rules with Ebay as here every one is breaking rules in either way.

I have learn many things by my experience, and i do it my way it works for me at least.

MadSam · #20 11-13-2010

Rogue account manager. Even eBay would not risk something like that getting out. I could believe it if there were a few of them colluding at it, there's very high fraud rates in South East Asia.