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Since I know I wont always get lucky like I just did. I wanted to get some more feedback for a future account. This is what I want to do. Let me know what you think:
Week One-Open a new eBay account/paypal
-Turn it into a seller account immediately
-Buy 10-15 items
Week Two-Start Selling REALLY SLOW!
-List something I have laying around the house for like a dollar. Maybe throw up 2-3 listings this week.
Week Three-Buy some more get some more feedback
Week Four-Sell again SLOWLY! Maybe 1 item a day. Still the cheap $1 ones.

Now at the beginning of month two after having say 30 buyer feedback and say 10 seller feedback.
Now would I be able to start actually selling my product? I do sell baby formula. I would like to sell maybe a $300 lot or something!

Buyer feedback doesn't really transition into selling at all. While it's great for the buyer to see a higher feedback number Ebay's computers only look at the feedback received as a seller. So you need to obtain the feedback as a seller. The higher number of seller feedback you get before attempting to list large lots of baby formula the better off you are. I would just sell small things from around the house or thrift stores for the first month and try and get 20-25 feedback and also 20 DSR ratings to avoid the Paypal holds.

Yeah but what if I do sell 30 odd things around the house and get 30 seller feedback. Once I do a transition to a lot of forumla, wont i get locked up for that?? As far as the paypal goes, the 21 day hold does not bother me one bit. Just getting the product on eBay is the hard part!

I don't think that listing 1 lot of baby formula is going to be a problem. But if you are trying to list multiple large lots right away you will run into issues most likely. If you are trying to move large amounts of product then you will need multiple accounts which I am sure you already know.

Yeah I know. What would you say. Maybe list $500 on one worth of product!! And then $500 on another?

If you have 20-25 positive seller feedback then personally I would try it on one account first and see what happens before listing it on the other. Should work though.

Agreed w/ cardfelon...if you are trying something new...why waste 2 acts when you can try it on one. See it works, then use BOTH.

It's not the baby formula that's the problem, it's the brand you use some brands like Similac are sold on sites like alibaba. If you're getting the formula here then try looking for a brand that doesn't show up on a Chinese wholesale site.

⊗⊗⊗⊗ baby formula? If you are really selling something like that then I am sorry but that is just wrong. Think about it. That is a human being. Would you want to put something into your kid that came from China??

I agree!! I was thinking.. what would happen if a child dies because of this garbage? Would they come after the seller?

Well they would go after the manufacturer. Unless they KNOW it's ⊗⊗⊗⊗, then they might go after you...Either way, I wouldn't buy anything that's supposed to go inside of you online. You never know what the guy did to it.

But see I dont buy my formula online. I got business were I live at and dont have to worry about selling ⊗⊗⊗⊗ formula! Why would I? I sell formula on craigslist too but the amount I have is way to much for craigslist. So eBay and my permanent buyers that I have are what I pay the bills with. Never any problems accept some dented cans that happened during shipping.

I buy plenty of stuff online that I consume. For instance I buy whey protein, and some supplements you cant get in most stores. Its just cheaper. But I stick to what I know. I dont by junk that I see and think I may want. Just stuff I know.

Thats just scary. I could never do that. And not saying your product is bad, so please do not read that into this... But what mother buys here baby food online from a stranger? Damn.

wow, baby formula, gotta draw the line somewhere unless u are buying from a local dealer in the usa of actual name brand sealed items.

lol there is no such thing as knockoff similac,who told you it wasnt legit? you think you can burn it like a dvd? lol

There are tons of ⊗⊗⊗⊗ drugs on the market. There was a huge article in USA Today earlier this week about the US Attorney getting quite a few illegal online pharmacies shut down. So why couldn't there be ⊗⊗⊗⊗ formula?? The people in China will bootleg anything they can make a dime on. That is a fact!

Like I stated in my earlier post I didn't say the OP was selling ⊗⊗⊗⊗ formula either

Thats sadly true. People not only get knock offs but full on ⊗⊗⊗⊗. Meaning no medicinal value you all. Or worse, harmful. These are sick people they take advantage of. I hate to say it, but a baby is fair game too

Don't forget just how ugly some people out there can be when it comes to money. Don't assume because you would never do something, that others wouldn't...

If you read through this thread you will see in real time how rumors are created. A few people jumped right to the conclusion he was selling counterfeit.

Actually, if you will read it you will see the opposite. We said they were out there, not that OP was....

This maybe got things going?

It was me that got it going, I googled "similac china" and saw some being sold by china suppliers on alibaba. The point was if you're getting the real formula here in the US like transition fighter is you still could have problems selling on ebay if it's a brand thats also being sold in China.

You guys really want to know the truth? Okay here it is I buy formula by the 100s but not because its ⊗⊗⊗⊗ formula. Its because all the formula I buy are DENTED cans. Dented! Not ⊗⊗⊗⊗! The place I get it from is not online like I said. And for everyones info. Go to eBay and type in formula. You will see ALOT of people buy formula to give to there kids. I dont want to hear no bull about it not being safe. I will tell you even more! The cans I sell go at the store for around $26.00 I buy them dented but sealed for around 13. Turn around and sell them by the 100s for $20 a can. I always sell lots of at least 40. Plenty of profit made from not doing much work. Yes the cans are dented. But I take pics of the cans and explain the cans are damaged. But just because you dont buy anything online you would consume, dont judge other people who do. Its honestly cheaper to do so. Yes I agree there are a grip of ⊗⊗⊗⊗ items out there. But thats what research on the seller is for. Anybody want to argue this issue go right ahead. I know JBluntz was not trying to start any kind of rumor. But whatever happened to my thread about how to do sell. Please get back on topic!

I don't see selling formula to be a problem. Sure there are listings on alibaba for china sellers that are selling ⊗⊗⊗⊗ but from what i see all the pictures that are attached to there listings are pulled from the internet (which USUALLY means it's bait and switch or scam) and there is not a lot of sellers that sell it. Now with forumula having a 70% or better sell through rate on eBay (tarapeek is useful) i would think it would be sold alot more on alibaba, but i am willing to bet that the alibaba sellers that have them listed, dont actually sell it, but more so use it as a way to draw traffic and inquiries, since it is a highly searched item. Now don't get me wrong there might be some ⊗⊗⊗⊗ formula out there. But i highly doubt it would trigger a red flag from eBay's VERO department.

Items that you can buy at your local grocery store, or local wholesaler will not likely trigger any VERO because you can get it anywhere at any time of the day. it's like selling TV series DVD's as long as your pictures are legit and don't look like total obvious ⊗⊗⊗⊗ and it's not disney then chances are you will be ok. What you need to do is just sell some crap around the house, and throw in a few cans of formula with it at low quantity just to get the ball rolling, and after you get a few feedback for the low quantity that you sold start selling in higher quantities.

Who said that the 21 day hold is removed after 20 DSR ratings. i have over 40 DSR and still get that BS 21 day hold.

This thread went out of control quick... hahaha

I personally think accounts with buying activity before selling activity are less likley to be looked at by ebay. If you open an account and start selling immediately, this just looks bad. Historically speaking most people who sell on ebay, started out buying stuff on ebay. Watch items, try to get deals... etc..... you have to act like a real, NEW person if you want ebay to not limit you off the bat. It even reads in the stealth guide to not start out selling like a pro.

I think your plan is good. Have you considered starting your own website?

There was a store where I grew up called Jennies Dent and Bent. They sold stuff like this, and seemed to be a good business.

The best piece of advice here.... don't limit yourself to just ebay. Why don't you start your own website or blog and talk about the money savings of purchasing dented cans?

This thread just proves my point hands down that not everyone on here is committing a crime. We should not assume that is the case. Doesn't anyone else get tired of seeing xxxx instead of a word? ugh... there's a reason this is blacked out!!!

Very good advice. Web hosting is very cheap and even one sale would more then cover your costs. Its a nice feeling to have some of your sales off ebay. And no listing/FVF

Well see like I have said before. I do have a big list of buyers that I sell to. I rarely use eBay. Bu there are times were some buyers, rarely, but cant pay for the items or dont need at the moment. Since I hate to sit on product for to long, I would like to sell it. Usually its only about 100 cans a month this happens with. And trust me I sell 1000s. But for those 100 or so cans a month I have I would like to ditch onto eBay like I used to to before getting suspended for account linking when I signed in on a shared computer. I dont care about long lasting eBay accounts. I wouldn mind starting a new one every month. I dont mind buying product from eBay to build feedback. I just want to do so then list on it safely but I still dont know how much is safe to list. Would nine cans for even $150 be to bad on a month old account with 30 feedback?

No selling 9 cans for $150 on a month old account would not be a problem at all. Glad to hear that you have found yourself a niche product but to me it really seems odd that you can continue to always have that many dented cans. I would think that if dented cans were a issue the manufactuer would come up with a better packing solution to avoid damaged product.

But see I cant disclose here how I get these cans. How do you know its just one manufacturer? How do you know its one brand of can? If I were to say how I am operating my business then everyone would do the same and I wouldnt be able to feed my family.

MM i got an idea. Why not try to dropship? Get the PRO's to sell on eBay for you. "I Aspkin should open a section for "approved" sellers that wish to drop ship items"

Anywyas i know where you could find a bunch of sellers that would be interested in dropshipping from you. PM me i will tell you the website.

Also some sellers that sell a bunch of baby formula on eBay buy it from people that have food stamps and are on wellfare. They sell the baby formula cheap so they can buy beer or some other shiiit. "Totally wrong" but i meet a woman that would buy it from a bunch of people every month. again i know this is totally f-ed up but thats how they roll lol. Dont know if she got arrested but thats how she made a living at the time..

Yeah I bought from a lady that had WIC and her baby wasnt on formula anymore so she had no use for the formula anymore. So she went and got it and just sold it for side money.

I think you have a great niche. Not glamorous but profitable. Your lucky that you have a source, and I already had surmised that you are able to get slightly distressed cans somewhere.
It seems that you won't have too much problem selling a certain amount on Ebay.
You're using Craigslist already I presume?

Not trying to insult mexicans, I my self am a half mexican. Anywyas here on the border town i live. some of these people 99.9% mexicans get the wellfare or foodstams or what ever it is, they contact the underground buyer they buy the stuff they can sell and get cash for it. Then they go and buy food on mexico cheaper and they get to buy thier beer with what ever money they got left with. TOTALLY FD-UP" This is why people dont like mexicans. I myself dont like the mexicans that abuse the system. another example, they get the fafsa from college get student loans and they go buy themselfs a bmw..

sorry to rant but this is 40% why the economi is in the toilet. is these damn abusers of the system that the goverment takes care off then they go spend their money on mexico.

Yes I do use craigslist and I do sell on craigslist. But the problem is that I dont sell enough. And I get the most ridiculous offers anywhere from $5-$10 when I paid $13.But seriously guys help me out on the eBay question.

All you gotta do is buy a few low priced items and sell a few and start out with 1 can along with some other cheap items and work your way up from there.

I am not asking how youget these. I just stated that it seems weird that there are that many dented cans. More power to you in making as much money as possible.

Everyone happy now? All good to go and not too many egos dented :rolleyes:

Another thread where a more carefully expressed explanation would have saved everything going off topic :yar:

I still think you need to start your own site. Ebay is expensive... and paypal is expensive... with your own site, I bet you would make a lot more money because you wouldn't have the fees, costs of making a new account.... you don't have to worry about ICE taking your stuff down :)

Sites are great...but in the mean time...you need current cash flow...work on the site ON THE SIDE.

You probably need the money NOW, like most of us.

Yeah thats exactly what I need is cash now! I have alot left I need to get rid of!