| | | wick603 | 08-13-2011 02:42 PM | Made big mistake with trying to sell vErO Hello
I used a stealth account so to speak to sell items on ebay I had a prepaid phone registered with my real address but ⊗⊗⊗⊗ name, and a prepaid credit cards that was registered to my name and real address etc, but it was prepaid. address on ebay and paypal was ⊗⊗⊗⊗ I got vero ed and banned. Ebay sends out this nice message to all buyers of your items and they all panic and request a refund. I have already shipped out the items, but ebay is deciding in their favor anyway. If I dont pay ebay back for their refunds that they are giving out as im banned anyway is there anyway for them to find me and track me down ruin my life etc?? any help would be appreciated!! |
| gorky | 08-13-2011 04:23 PM | It depends on a whole lot. It'll depend on the amount etc. If it's under 1k, don't sweat it. If it's over you'll want to start refunding people. It's the name of the game when you go stealth. It's just the risk you take. |
| robsut | 08-13-2011 05:01 PM | Hi, i have had a few in the post, but only to the name/address i have used to register to ebay/paypa (both real)l, if any chargebacks can be made to any of the cards you used to register, cancel them now, other than that you have nothing to worry about, not even the bank account you will withdraw to. |
| JRYAN34 | 08-13-2011 06:09 PM | you should be good, but i can guarantee they have more resources than you think to obtain certain info |
| Road-Kill | 08-13-2011 07:00 PM | It depends on the $$$ and if the items are real and if you offer a refund if the items are returned.
A lot of if's, but with the right combination you might need to worry about posting bail more than your credit. |
| GreenBean | 08-13-2011 09:15 PM | I changed the title of your thread. It best describes how I feel.
Always LOVE 1st posts like this. NOT :boink:
:doh::doh: |
| wick603 | 08-14-2011 07:30 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by robsut
(Post 258912)
Hi, i have had a few in the post, but only to the name/address i have used to register to ebay/paypa (both real)l, if any chargebacks can be made to any of the cards you used to register, cancel them now, other than that you have nothing to worry about, not even the bank account you will withdraw to. |
Thanks apprecaite it. Kinda wondering if in the future all no-real info is the way to go just in case this happens again. |
| wick603 | 08-14-2011 07:34 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by gorky
(Post 258905)
It depends on a whole lot. It'll depend on the amount etc. If it's under 1k, don't sweat it. If it's over you'll want to start refunding people. It's the name of the game when you go stealth. It's just the risk you take. | Thanks appreciate it.. Sucks Im already out the money for the items that have been sent out. Sending refunds for items that they will recieve is just bonkers to me.. In the future u think running many accounts with all non-real info, so that they dont exceed 1k is the way to go? |
| GreenBean | 08-14-2011 08:02 AM | No. You are missing the point. You want to miss it. Are you by chance young?
Forum does not condone selling vErO.
You will get into problems with the items you sell. Sell vErO in nearly any manner and run the risk of having troubles.
We try to help users unfairly stopped by ebay/paypal not those determined to do the same thing again.
Your choice.:boink: |
| ensignia | 08-14-2011 10:04 AM | GB, I've noticed this recently; a lot of people on here are selling f-a-k-e branded goods from China (while hiding behind the Vero tag). I thought people were here because they were banned for vague reasons and unfair policies, but a look in any of the main forums will show that people persist in selling counterfeit items.
Why? It's a terrible business model and highly illegal. There was a guy in my town who got 3 months in jail for selling ⊗⊗⊗⊗ UGG boots, GHD hair straighteners and Lacoste clothes. Not only that but he had to pay back £20k to customers! :doh: |
| UnderBites08 | 08-14-2011 10:42 AM | It's because the counterfeits yeild the highest margins. It may be wrong but sometimes counterfeits are the same quality as the orginals. Which sell for much cheaper. It's sad that most all of USA goods made in China are marked up as much as they are and sometimes their products are junk. |
Yawn another ve ro initial post ha.
Welcome to the forums.
Forum is dedicated to stealth methodology which is excellent at getting back on eb ay. Once you understand that...well, you go about your business.
I am happy to contribute to whatever business you do for a % of the total cut =) All the best regardless.
/bounce GB up and down on the knee WHEEEE |
| Road-Kill | 08-14-2011 11:39 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by ensignia
(Post 259113)
GB, I've noticed this recently; a lot of people on here are selling f-a-k-e branded goods from China (while hiding behind the Vero tag). I thought people were here because they were banned for vague reasons and unfair policies, but a look in any of the main forums will show that people persist in selling counterfeit items.
Why? It's a terrible business model and highly illegal. There was a guy in my town who got 3 months in jail for selling ⊗⊗⊗⊗ UGG boots, GHD hair straighteners and Lacoste clothes. Not only that but he had to pay back £20k to customers! :doh: | So did the person that busted just sell it all with one account? Or convert the 1k US dollars per account into the currency of their choice and figure they were good to go. |
| ensignia | 08-14-2011 12:25 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by Road-Kill
(Post 259132)
So did the person that busted just sell it all with one account? Or convert the 1k US dollars per account into the currency of their choice and figure they were good to go. | I think he was doing a mixture of eBay sales and selling at market stalls. On a similar note this guy got jail time for selling ⊗⊗⊗⊗ DVDs. |
| Road-Kill | 08-14-2011 12:47 PM | Ouch, it's scary what just one pissed off customer can do if they are determined enough. |
| download3000 | 08-14-2011 01:40 PM | Listen am gona say this flat out, if your selling legit you either got suspended because your DSR is to low or maybe your careless and send broken things or maybe you accidently sent it in poor packageging. What i do know is that most people here are gettin suspended because of vero items which apply to 50% of all of ebay lol. VERO has the highest profit and if your smart you wont get into trouble becuase stleath accounts help you there. And it all depends what your selling to. |
| mastercho | 08-14-2011 03:14 PM | what is VERO ? |
| Road-Kill | 08-14-2011 03:50 PM | I'll give you a example.
Let's say your looking for a original Shelby Cobra 427 and want to buy it on E-Bay Motor's.
You see a great looking one at a price that is too good to be true. You pay for it and when it arrives, if it arrives, it's look pretty nice but something doesn't seem quite right. So you check the vin and it shows up on the DMV records as being registered as a Pinto. That's VeRo.
So the VeRo sellers are pointing out that their profit margins are superior to legit sellers, that will actually send you a real Cobra if you pay them for one. |
| wick603 | 08-15-2011 07:52 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenBean™
(Post 259069)
No. You are missing the point. You want to miss it. Are you by chance young?
Forum does not condone selling vErO.
You will get into problems with the items you sell. Sell vErO in nearly any manner and run the risk of having troubles.
We try to help users unfairly stopped by ebay/paypal not those determined to do the same thing again.
Your choice.:boink: | No I get the point for sure, I realize that im guilty of selling an item that ebay does not want on their website, and I dont want to do that again, however what has happened has happened, thank god I dont have thousands in stock. just not cool right now as im out the item plus customers want refunds. makes it difficult, but I do get the point. |
| wick603 | 08-15-2011 08:06 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by download3000
(Post 259172)
Listen am gona say this flat out, if your selling legit you either got suspended because your DSR is to low or maybe your careless and send broken things or maybe you accidently sent it in poor packageging. What i do know is that most people here are gettin suspended because of vero items which apply to 50% of all of ebay lol. VERO has the highest profit and if your smart you wont get into trouble becuase stleath accounts help you there. And it all depends what your selling to. |
Thanks.. I would like to not go to jail obviously, and I think im going to look into selling non vero items, which sucks cause everyone else is doing it. It makes it difficult to compete is all. Ne way whats done is done, I would like to stay out of jail though, we are talking about under 1k so im hoping im alright. Just to have to refund everyone I would be out the item plus shipping plus have to give em all their money back.. thanks for advice tho. |
| wick603 | 08-15-2011 08:09 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by Road-Kill
(Post 259132)
So did the person that busted just sell it all with one account? Or convert the 1k US dollars per account into the currency of their choice and figure they were good to go. |
confused, u saying that sticking to 1k and converting it at that point, for the sell of any item not just vero is a good way to stay out of trouble? I would like to avoid jail ect.. lol |
| Alps_a somewhatlegend | 08-15-2011 08:38 AM | Statement of the year Could this be the best statement of the year?.... I think so. Quote:
Originally Posted by rsot
(Post 259126)
Forum is dedicated to stealth methodology which is excellent at getting back on eb ay. Once you understand that...well, you go about your business. | |
| Road-Kill | 08-15-2011 08:44 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by wick603
(Post 259402)
confused, u saying that sticking to 1k and converting it at that point, for the sell of any item not just vero is a good way to stay out of trouble? I would like to avoid jail ect.. lol |
No one really knows the odd's of your getting caught. The more you sell it, the higher the odd's.
If you don't want to risk jail, or ruining your credit don't sell VeRo.
If you think you can beat the system, then I guess you don't need to worry about the consequences of getting caught.
You are off to a bad start, you already used a phone that can be traced to you. If they start linking accounts to the account with that phone, you are really screwed. |
| newjerseymax | 08-15-2011 09:06 AM | My guess is that at minimum 80% of people that are here sell or have sold ⊗⊗⊗⊗ products on ebay. I suspect those that are members and don't post often the rate could be higher. Lets be honest there would be a lot less activity here if ⊗⊗⊗⊗ didnt come into play. |
| hadenough01 | 08-15-2011 09:21 AM | I thought when eBay pulls a listing and refunds customers, whether its for Ve Ro or any other reason, the refund comes from eBay's pocket not your own?
I had a listing pulled, customers refunded etc etc - Never once was I asked to pay eBay anything.
Could someone please clarify this? | | All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:51 PM. | |
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