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corleone 10-26-2012 09:56 PM

Need help from Computer Saavy stealthers.
 
I noticed there was a sticky about laptops, but I prefer desktop for my work area, I can't have a laptop in my office, my 2 year old would destroy it.

Anyway's here's my dilemna, I currently have a pretty cheap computer, and I think the 50+ window accounts are really slowing it down. It goes through periods where it freezes up, I get countless hourglass stalls. Windows explorer becomes unresponsive. When I change the Mac IP it stalls and doesn't want to connect online.

Anyway's, I want to buy a new desktop, and I want something good. I do a ton of work, and waiting for the computer to respond takes up over half my time online.

I know very little about computers, and I would like to build my own from Dell. I don't do anything on my computer except work, no games, no movies, just ebay selling(but a lot of ebaying). I need to know what would be the fastest computer which could handle my huge supply of windows user accounts(I plan to have over 100 windows accounts, and need something that won't bog down).

I really appreciate some simple advice on what to buy.

Thanks in advance

yotano211 10-26-2012 10:05 PM

What are the specs of you old desktop, and what is your budget?

unkown5454 10-26-2012 10:54 PM

The hour glass part, man oh man...taking us back in time here. Dell is going to rape you on price unless you wait a really long time for the random deals they throw up. Extremely rare occasion.

AmazonStealth 10-26-2012 11:12 PM

i know you said no laptop. but if you want a fresh computer just get a netbook and use it strictly for selling online. dont download crap on it or any of that and you will have no issues. well worth the $200

corleone 10-26-2012 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yotano211 (Post 387592)
What are the specs of you old desktop, and what is your budget?

This is a foreign language to me, but here ya go:

Quote:

Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 32-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.120830-0333)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: n/a
System Model: n/a
BIOS: n/a
Processor: n/a (2 CPUs)
Memory: 3072MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 3036MB RAM
Page File: 4329MB used, 2949MB available
Windows Dir: C:\Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
DxDiag Version: 6.01.7601.17514 32bit Unicode
Budget isn't an issue. Time is money for me, and I need something good. I don't have enough hours in the day to do the work I need to do, so I need something that can go as fast as I can.

corleone 10-26-2012 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unkown5454 (Post 387598)
The hour glass part, man oh man...taking us back in time here. Dell is going to rape you on price unless you wait a really long time for the random deals they throw up. Extremely rare occasion.

Doesn't have to be Dell, I really don't even know what brand to go with.

corleone 10-26-2012 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmazonStealth (Post 387604)
i know you said no laptop. but if you want a fresh computer just get a netbook and use it strictly for selling online. dont download crap on it or any of that and you will have no issues. well worth the $200

No issues with 100's of windows user accounts? I use fresh user accounts for all my ebay accts. I prefer to have the cookies saved for each one.

I also don't want anything cheap because I do have to download certain programs, and I use a lot of spreadsheets, as well as photoshop.

Also, this is unrelated to my original question, but do all routers basically have the same loading time when switching Mac's? I'd be interested in knowing if there are any that pretty much instantly load the new ip addresses. Mine take about a minute, which isn't a big deal, but when you consider that I might have to print labels off 20-25 different accounts in a day, it really is time consuming.

I was able to handle most of this easily for the past few years as I've only dealt with a few different accounts per week, but now I've decided to step it up big time and take advantage of the Holiday season. With that commitment I've come to the realization that I have to do something quick about my time management issues.

Appreciate the help guys. I'm great at handling ebay issues/but HORRIBLE at handling my computer issues.

GreenBean 10-26-2012 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by corleone (Post 387607)
Doesn't have to be Dell, I really don't even know what brand to go with.

Avoid Dell.

http://www.aspkin.com/forums/ebay-di...er-advice.html

Ya not notice the above excellent thread ;)


:pop2:

GreenBean 10-27-2012 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by corleone (Post 387609)
No issues with 100's of windows user accounts? I use fresh user accounts for all my ebay accts. I prefer to have the cookies saved for each one.


Appreciate the help guys. I'm great at handling ebay issues/but HORRIBLE at handling my computer issues.

http://www.aspkin.com/forums/ebay-tr...lths-1-pc.html

Streamlining time is what keeps you selling

Of relevance to your issues too

:pop2:

corleone 10-27-2012 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenBean™ (Post 387611)
http://www.aspkin.com/forums/ebay-tr...lths-1-pc.html

Streamlining time is what keeps you selling

Of relevance to your issues too

:pop2:

Interesting, is it true that having 200 user accounts doesn't eat up much more space than 2 user accounts?

I've stepped up the game a bit, and would like to have 200 accounts by next year. I open 4 accounts per week basically.

corleone 10-27-2012 12:14 AM

So then any idea why my computer is slower than that broke down truck in the driveway? Also why on Earth does it decide to act up every once in a while to the point where it won't even have internet access for 15-30 minutes at a time? I should have plenty of MB available, why is this thing so slow?

GreenBean 10-27-2012 12:32 AM

Post 5 suggests you should plenty of space...

Do you do back ups & system restores weekly?

Have you got 'too much unneeded info'

Windows 7 32 Bit is on the slower side of things (imo).

Has this loading problem been going on for a while, say in the past 3 weeks?

corleone 10-27-2012 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenBean™ (Post 387618)
Post 5 suggests you should plenty of space...

Do you do back ups & system restores weekly?

Have you got 'too much unneeded info'

Windows 7 32 Bit is on the slower side of things (imo).

Has this loading problem been going on for a while, say in the past 3 weeks?

yea it has, but it's gotten worse the past few weeks. This computer has been slow for a while, but it's getting worse.

I have to buy a new desktop anyway, and am probably going to buy one in November during Black Friday. Money isn't really an object, I just want to buy a top of the line desktop for my needs. I don't need all the bells and whistles to play games or blu-rays etc. . .

I just need a computer that's going to kick butt in speed and reliability.

hackteck 10-27-2012 12:53 AM

i would go with an i5 or i7 desktop get atleast 4 gigs of ram 8 gigs would be perfect

MM78 10-27-2012 02:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by corleone (Post 387606)
This is a foreign language to me, but here ya go:

Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 32-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.120830-0333)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: n/a
System Model: n/a
BIOS: n/a
Processor: n/a (2 CPUs)
Memory: 3072MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 3036MB RAM
Page File: 4329MB used, 2949MB available
Windows Dir: C:\Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
DxDiag Version: 6.01.7601.17514 32bit Unicode

Budget isn't an issue. Time is money for me, and I need something good. I don't have enough hours in the day to do the work I need to do, so I need something that can go as fast as I can.

Get rid of windows 7, install XP, will run faster.

slapped 10-27-2012 02:26 AM

Your Computer Specs Suggest to Me that your Problem is Memory, I HIGHLY Recommend these Guys:

PCUSA.com Custom PC for Powerful Computing

They are Not overly Expensive, and they do GREAT work, I have Purchased MANY computers from them NEVER a Problem

Custom Create your Own system, as Stated Above Start with the Cheapest i5 or even Better i7 Basic system, then, add as Much Memory as you can afford, a FAST hard Drive Helps a LOT also, if you can Afford it purchase a 2 Hard drive system,,an SSD Hard drive for the Operating System (Windows), and all your Programs as your Primary Hard drive, and a second BIG Storage Hard drive that will hold all of your Files, Music, videos,ect, ect,,,,If you cannot afford that then a Good 7200 RPM Hard drive will serve Nicely as well,,,and also go to a 64bit Windows Operating System,,,in the future your system will run faster,,,any Questions, Just ask

user3657 10-27-2012 04:26 AM

If you want something fast with 100 user accounts, id look to spend about 800$. You have two things on your side right now for great deals, windows 8 was just launched so everyone is still clearenceing their old computers and its almost end of year....time to inflate sale numbers!

but id like to know, 50-100 users...?! how?! how do you do it? different ips for each one?

rsot 10-27-2012 09:17 AM

Work on getting few desktops or lappies or whatever - helps to cut down on cycling time. At prices these days...peanuts

corleone 10-27-2012 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by user3657 (Post 387653)
If you want something fast with 100 user accounts, id look to spend about 800$. You have two things on your side right now for great deals, windows 8 was just launched so everyone is still clearenceing their old computers and its almost end of year....time to inflate sale numbers!

but id like to know, 50-100 users...?! how?! how do you do it? different ips for each one?

Yep, different MAC ID's which changes the IP's. Having 100 stealth accounts is the same as having 2 stealth accounts really, just more work.

I have them all on Gmail accounts and I have them all fwded to 1 account so that I don't have to check 100 email's daily, I just log into each email if I have a question.

I list 90% of my stuff by auction. With limits and certain vero issues, it's much easier to spread them out. Different backgrounds(I go to fabric stores and buy dozens of different), differents locations(even different states), it's pretty legit. I've had bad vero issues in the past, so this really cuts down on it. I've had to go through precautions because I depend on my ebay income and I can not afford to put all my eggs in one basket. I owe a lot to this board because this is where I learned it all.

Now, is Windows 8 supposed to be an upgrade? Is that something I should look into?

slim jim 10-27-2012 11:29 AM

if you do regular backups, i would disable 'system restore' as i have never found it useful but you MUST do regular backups.
go to start, and right click on computer, then click properties. click 'advanced system settings'. there are a few things here that can help speed up the computer.
under the 'performance' tab, click settings. under 'visual effects' choose adjust for best performance, this takes off a lot of bs animation settings that slow down the computer.
under the 'system performance' tab, you can disable system restore.
if you have any troubles just PM me, there are a bunch of other things you can do to speed up the computer

jamcocktail21 10-27-2012 11:35 AM

Stick with Lenovo and you will never be disappointed

I have W520 1TB hard 16GB Memory 3.5GHz processor the fastest laptop i ever had

Just my 2 cents

JJGold 10-27-2012 11:53 AM

Saw this at my local Costco regularly $900+:

Dell X8500-4727BK Desktop: Core i7 3770 3.40GHz, 12GB DDR3, 2TB 7200RPM HDD, NVIDIA GeForce GT 640 1GB, WiFi N, Win 7 Home Prem for $600 + tax

If you live close to a Costco, it may be worth the drive for a very fast desktop.

corleone 10-27-2012 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slapped (Post 387641)
Your Computer Specs Suggest to Me that your Problem is Memory, I HIGHLY Recommend these Guys:

PCUSA.com Custom PC for Powerful Computing

They are Not overly Expensive, and they do GREAT work, I have Purchased MANY computers from them NEVER a Problem

Custom Create your Own system, as Stated Above Start with the Cheapest i5 or even Better i7 Basic system, then, add as Much Memory as you can afford, a FAST hard Drive Helps a LOT also, if you can Afford it purchase a 2 Hard drive system,,an SSD Hard drive for the Operating System (Windows), and all your Programs as your Primary Hard drive, and a second BIG Storage Hard drive that will hold all of your Files, Music, videos,ect, ect,,,,If you cannot afford that then a Good 7200 RPM Hard drive will serve Nicely as well,,,and also go to a 64bit Windows Operating System,,,in the future your system will run faster,,,any Questions, Just ask

Just what I was asking for. Thanks I'll check them out.

As far as routers. . .are they all the same in regards to performance and loading time when switching Mac Addresses?

corleone 10-27-2012 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJGold (Post 387733)
Saw this at my local Costco regularly $900+:

Dell X8500-4727BK Desktop: Core i7 3770 3.40GHz, 12GB DDR3, 2TB 7200RPM HDD, NVIDIA GeForce GT 640 1GB, WiFi N, Win 7 Home Prem for $600 + tax

If you live close to a Costco, it may be worth the drive for a very fast desktop.

When did you see this? I may have to stop by and check it out.

JJGold 10-27-2012 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by corleone (Post 387741)
When did you see this? I may have to stop by and check it out.

Yesterday.

yotano211 10-27-2012 09:44 PM

Since you are determined to buy a new computer then buy away. I was going to ask you to just clean the one you have and maybe upgrade it to a SSD drive.

Your current system has more than enough memory for the tasks that you do. You are running dual channel from the 3gb that you have. I would think a 2gb and 1gb memory module.

With what your saying about computer problems and slow downs, it could be 1 of two things. Some kind of network problem with the internal computer network or your external router. Or you have some kind of task running in the back ground that is taking all of the processor power away. If I think you have a P4 processor with HT cpu, which is more than enough for most people, that background processing work is really working that P4 to death.

When ever you start your computer, go into your task manager, alt-control-delete, and check your performance tab. It will give a line that says how much the processor is being taken up. If the line shots all the way up or anything over 95%, than that is your problem on the slow downs.

Then check your memory usage, right under that will have a blue line, anything over the total amount you have will cause the computer to use the hard drive for temporary memory. That really slows down your computer. If that is the cause then you have something taking all your memory or a program with really bad memory leaks. Sometimes it happens when you have a program on for some time, days and days, and memory leaks happen, so the usage goes up until there is no more memory available.

The OS looks up to date, windows 7 is fine by now. Mr. Softy got the bugs fixed by now, very stable and good OS. If you still want XP, update the OS to windows 7 Pro or Ult. and you can install XP pro into a virtual machine built into the OS already. Its perfectly legal with Microsoft, they built it into the OS.

From the list you gave me, the process is dual core, but I think its either a Pentium 4 HT with a single core and Hyper threading enabled, so it fools you into having a dual core desktop. Or you could have a AMD Athlon 64 X2 processor, a true dual core.


But if you still want a new computer, that deal from Costco looks very very good. Very good processor. Hard drive is nice, the graphics card is so so, for my needs anyways, but very good for you. But I dont know, for the price they must of cheaped out somewhere else. I beat they cheaped out on the Power Supply Unit, PSU. Dell always cheaps out on the PSUs. But with this desktop at the price they really cheaped out.

I would actually pick it up, but check the warranty first. I think it must be 90 days warranty and not the full 1 year normal warranty. But if you pay with some credit card, forgot the brand, they will extend the warranty over 1 year with Costco purchases.

If you do end up buying it, purchase a SSD hard drive, put the Operating System (OS) on the SSD drive and leave the normal 2tb hard drive to store all your regular stuff. The OS will load up from the SSD. SSD are so much faster than normal hard drives, x3 min faster. Changing User Accounts will also be much faster. I wish they can drop that i7 processor, install a i3 and add a SSD drive for the same price.

BiN4RY 10-27-2012 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJGold (Post 387733)
Saw this at my local Costco regularly $900+:

Dell X8500-4727BK Desktop: Core i7 3770 3.40GHz, 12GB DDR3, 2TB 7200RPM HDD, NVIDIA GeForce GT 640 1GB, WiFi N, Win 7 Home Prem for $600 + tax

If you live close to a Costco, it may be worth the drive for a very fast desktop.

This is a really good computer for the price if you don't play games

Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 2

yotano211 10-27-2012 10:19 PM

Even if you still game games, that Nvidia 640 can play most games at 1280x1024 resolution on medium graphics settings.

jamcocktail21 10-27-2012 11:09 PM

Yep great price for such a computer

I like laptops better because i am going in the woods,parks closer to nature doing my job......Since i started operating all my stealth accounts not from home i noticed that my sales increased about 35%

In Pennsylvania temperature dropped right now but when the spring is coming i am out again:)

rsot 10-28-2012 05:22 AM

Never get hampered by the weather :)

jamcocktail21 10-28-2012 02:09 PM

I don't wanna get sick rsot:)

To cold right now:)

corleone 10-28-2012 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yotano211 (Post 387809)
Since you are determined to buy a new computer then buy away. I was going to ask you to just clean the one you have and maybe upgrade it to a SSD drive.

Your current system has more than enough memory for the tasks that you do. You are running dual channel from the 3gb that you have. I would think a 2gb and 1gb memory module.

With what your saying about computer problems and slow downs, it could be 1 of two things. Some kind of network problem with the internal computer network or your external router. Or you have some kind of task running in the back ground that is taking all of the processor power away. If I think you have a P4 processor with HT cpu, which is more than enough for most people, that background processing work is really working that P4 to death.

When ever you start your computer, go into your task manager, alt-control-delete, and check your performance tab. It will give a line that says how much the processor is being taken up. If the line shots all the way up or anything over 95%, than that is your problem on the slow downs.

Then check your memory usage, right under that will have a blue line, anything over the total amount you have will cause the computer to use the hard drive for temporary memory. That really slows down your computer. If that is the cause then you have something taking all your memory or a program with really bad memory leaks. Sometimes it happens when you have a program on for some time, days and days, and memory leaks happen, so the usage goes up until there is no more memory available.

The OS looks up to date, windows 7 is fine by now. Mr. Softy got the bugs fixed by now, very stable and good OS. If you still want XP, update the OS to windows 7 Pro or Ult. and you can install XP pro into a virtual machine built into the OS already. Its perfectly legal with Microsoft, they built it into the OS.

From the list you gave me, the process is dual core, but I think its either a Pentium 4 HT with a single core and Hyper threading enabled, so it fools you into having a dual core desktop. Or you could have a AMD Athlon 64 X2 processor, a true dual core.


But if you still want a new computer, that deal from Costco looks very very good. Very good processor. Hard drive is nice, the graphics card is so so, for my needs anyways, but very good for you. But I dont know, for the price they must of cheaped out somewhere else. I beat they cheaped out on the Power Supply Unit, PSU. Dell always cheaps out on the PSUs. But with this desktop at the price they really cheaped out.

I would actually pick it up, but check the warranty first. I think it must be 90 days warranty and not the full 1 year normal warranty. But if you pay with some credit card, forgot the brand, they will extend the warranty over 1 year with Costco purchases.

If you do end up buying it, purchase a SSD hard drive, put the Operating System (OS) on the SSD drive and leave the normal 2tb hard drive to store all your regular stuff. The OS will load up from the SSD. SSD are so much faster than normal hard drives, x3 min faster. Changing User Accounts will also be much faster. I wish they can drop that i7 processor, install a i3 and add a SSD drive for the same price.

My CPU usage only says 5%. I'll check it later when it stalls on me.

Thanks for the write up, much appreciated.

My local costco didn't have that deal, it was still 900, but I may check around black friday to see if I can find a knockout deal.

yotano211 10-28-2012 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by corleone (Post 387985)
My CPU usage only says 5%. I'll check it later when it stalls on me.

Thanks for the write up, much appreciated.

My local costco didn't have that deal, it was still 900, but I may check around black friday to see if I can find a knockout deal.

Make sure that when you computer slows down you have the task manager running in the back ground. Then when it slows down, and back to normal again, click on the task manager tab really fast. It will have a history of your processor usage going back at least 10 seconds. That is more than enough time to see if the cpu spikes up.

hazy 10-29-2012 12:38 AM

I have been using a mac with windows on a bootcamp partition and I hate it so I am selling my imac and getting an HP H8-1360t with these specs

HP Pavilion HPE h8-1360t Desktop PC
• 3rd Generation Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770 quad-core processor [3.4GHz, 8MB Shared Cache]
• 12GB DDR3-1333MHz SDRAM [3 DIMMs]
• 1TB 7200 rpm SATA hard drive
• No secondary hard drive
• 1GB DDR3 AMD Radeon HD 7570 [HDMI, DVI, VGA via adapter]
• 300W Power supply

I actually ordered it last night and it came out to about $900 after tax and shipping which is several hundred dollars less then this stupid imac and way more powerful (in terms of our specific needs).

yotano211 10-29-2012 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hazy (Post 388066)
I have been using a mac with windows on a bootcamp partition and I hate it so I am selling my imac and getting an HP H8-1360t with these specs

HP Pavilion HPE h8-1360t Desktop PC
• 3rd Generation Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770 quad-core processor [3.4GHz, 8MB Shared Cache]
• 12GB DDR3-1333MHz SDRAM [3 DIMMs]
• 1TB 7200 rpm SATA hard drive
• No secondary hard drive
• 1GB DDR3 AMD Radeon HD 7570 [HDMI, DVI, VGA via adapter]
• 300W Power supply

I actually ordered it last night and it came out to about $900 after tax and shipping which is several hundred dollars less then this stupid imac and way more powerful (in terms of our specific needs).

Holy Sh*it that is over priced. I could built a system with more than double the performance for that, or save half the price. That graphics card us pure junk, a renamed last generation Radeon HD 6570. The PSU does not allow for any future upgrades, 300w(?), hahaha.....

Hope your happy with it.

hazy 11-07-2012 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yotano211 (Post 388077)
Holy Sh*it that is over priced. I could built a system with more than double the performance for that, or save half the price. That graphics card us pure junk, a renamed last generation Radeon HD 6570. The PSU does not allow for any future upgrades, 300w(?), hahaha.....

Hope your happy with it.

I'm all open for suggestions. What would you have built for that price?

yotano211 11-08-2012 04:37 AM

I dont know, I am not a desktop person. But I can tell you that I can get at least a AMD 7750 gpu in there that would beat the crap out of a 7570.

Most parts that I would get would be used, esp. the processor, processors rarely fail. The PSU I can get for that price would at least be a 600w PSU. I would build it myself but even a pre built desktop for that price is kinda high.

hazy 11-10-2012 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yotano211 (Post 391364)
I dont know, I am not a desktop person. But I can tell you that I can get at least a AMD 7750 gpu in there that would beat the crap out of a 7570.

Most parts that I would get would be used, esp. the processor, processors rarely fail. The PSU I can get for that price would at least be a 600w PSU. I would build it myself but even a pre built desktop for that price is kinda high.

What difference in performance would I see with a 600w PSU?

slapped 11-10-2012 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hazy (Post 392192)
What difference in performance would I see with a 600w PSU?

The Power Supply of your system must be adequatly matched to your system.

For example a System that is running 2 Top Of the Line Video cards with an XFire or SLI configuration requires a SUBSTANTIALLY Larger Power supply than a System that only uses intergrated Motherboard graphics chips.

When you do not provide adequate power to the System a whole host of problems can arise, from components not functioning at all, to Overheating and Burning out your power supply (Can be Dangerous),,Think of it as pluging in to many things into the same outlet,,,your gonna blow a fuse,,,

hazy 11-10-2012 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slapped (Post 392295)
The Power Supply of your system must be adequatly matched to your system.

For example a System that is running 2 Top Of the Line Video cards with an XFire or SLI configuration requires a SUBSTANTIALLY Larger Power supply than a System that only uses intergrated Motherboard graphics chips.

When you do not provide adequate power to the System a whole host of problems can arise, from components not functioning at all, to Overheating and Burning out your power supply (Can be Dangerous),,Think of it as pluging in to many things into the same outlet,,,your gonna blow a fuse,,,

Thanks, makes sense.


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