| | | imjustme | 06-09-2013 09:47 AM | Do people still buy/sell collectables? This may seem like an odd question. Maybe 15 years ago when I first started buying on eBay, I remember there was a vibrant community of antiques and collectables buyers and sellers. I don't see that anymore today. Is it just that they moved elsewhere away from eBay? If so, where to?
Or is it just that people don't collect things anymore. Or am I completely wrong? |
| GreenBean | 06-09-2013 10:42 AM | The times are a'changing.
It is nothing like it was years back.
These days there is a difference between antiques and collectibles.
Etsy has its followers. Artfire to a degree.
Saturation of the Chinese with phake antiques has not done much either for ebay. |
| imjustme | 06-09-2013 10:51 AM | I did notice there's a bit on Etsy, especially vintage clothing. But otherwise their main following seems to be handmade things. Some of which can obviously be collectables as well.
I've been following ArtFire for the past few years but their design just makes me want to puke instead of buying or selling.
:bored: |
| GreenBean | 06-09-2013 10:52 AM | Sounds right. |
| Sandy D | 06-09-2013 11:44 AM | Collectibles still sell well. Probably 80-90% of my business.
Certain categories have huge followings and even large collector clubs.
For instance, Carnival Glass. They have a huge group of clubs that meet 2 times a year.
Cookie jar collectors meet in Nashville Tn once a year and it is huge.
Pez collectors, another huge one.
Vintage toys, several clubs and many toy only shows across the country.
Vintage clothing is hot on etsy but I sell lots of 1950s, 60s and a ton of 1970s ugly green and yellow items.
LOL Anyone remember those cat clocks? Kit Kat....
They are being reproduced now but you can easily spot the old from the new, I sold several on etsy.
Things are changing for me because most of the older people who used to bid me up at auctions are now gone, retired or stopped showing up leaving a new younger crowd who dont seem to have the money to bid people up.
Also, here in the USA average age is growing older and with that many items in houses are coming up for sale.
I have bought more large estates this year then in all past years combined.
Antique malls started dropping like flies 5 years ago and now I see them coming back to life with new ones opening and those that survived the slow down are growing again. |
| mobilecontractsuk | 06-09-2013 12:23 PM | When you now visit ebay, you are bombarded with featured items and adverts of big brands. It seems to like the listings of private sellers are being pushed down. I used to sell collectables but profitability was not good for me. |
| jeffweico | 06-09-2013 01:32 PM | When eBay first came into existence, there were very limited ways to sell antiques and collectibles. There really was no way to put your item in front of thousands of buyers on a national, or international level. Most options were local.
There was a HUGE pent-up demand that eBay unleashed. Word quickly spread that you could list items online at eBay and have several interested potential buyers and get a good price for your stuff. And the auction aspect of it was a lot of fun at first. That has faded quite a bit.
Etsy has taken some of that business. And some of the market simply no longer exists. eBay was the right idea at the right time and it took off like wildfire. But there is no going back.
Having said all that, there will ALWAYS be a market for antiques and collectibles. It is just that these days you need to work harder to get the attention of buyers and you probably won't see huge prices for most of these items, unless they are truly desirable and rare.
Remember Beanie Babies? Comic Books? Sports Cards?
Back in the 1980's, comic books were, HOT, HOT, HOT! Every comic went up in price every year. Marvel and DC regularly put out new first issues, collector's editions, and similar items all of them rapidly increasing in value. The problem is, none of these were actually RARE since they were mass produced and a lot of people were buying them only so they could later re-sell them at a profit. A classic bubble. Today, most of those comics are worthless, or close to worthless. Truly RARE comics, like Superman #1, still sell for a fortune but they are relatively few in number.
Same thing with sports cards and beanie babies and ANYTHING else, really. |
| imjustme | 06-09-2013 02:42 PM | Thank you for all your replies :) I'm glad to see that the antiques and collectables niche is still going strong. Maybe I've been focusing on eBay too much, which seems to have lost it's once strongest category. I do wish ArtFire was a bit more attractive. Even the fonts on that website are awfully hard to read.
And I agree that I used to see lots of flea markets a decade ago and they have now almost all vanished. Sad, kind of. Maybe we will see a revival soon. |
| TGMT² | 06-09-2013 02:54 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by imjustme
(Post 456736)
I remember there was a vibrant community of antiques and collectables buyers and sellers. I don't see that anymore today. | My view on the situation: Is that a big majority of the collectables have been already listed and sold and are now being kept in personal collections. |
| GreenBean | 06-09-2013 06:16 PM | Some of the purchases I made from ebay back in the 'day' are sitting in their cabinets.
They get dusted from time to time and are cherished.
I managed to buy ( over about 6 months) 15 pieces of Matt Jonansson crystal sculptures.
Breath taking to say the least. |
I sell specialized collectibles from time to time and yes, there is the 'keeping phenomena' in effect - the people who can afford collectibles simply buy to keep, not really flip. Shift of population age is definitely contributing as is the state of economy. |
| Sandy D | 06-09-2013 07:53 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by rsot
(Post 456872)
I sell specialized collectibles from time to time and yes, there is the 'keeping phenomena' in effect - the people who can afford collectibles simply buy to keep, not really flip. Shift of population age is definitely contributing as is the state of economy. | What type of collectibles do you buy?
Antique stuff, artsy stuff, art deco, toys?
What time period of items do you buy?
Do you ever attend auctions or how do you find your collectibles?
Are there antique malls in Ca? |
| imjustme | 06-09-2013 08:51 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by rsot
(Post 456872)
I sell specialized collectibles from time to time and yes, there is the 'keeping phenomena' in effect - the people who can afford collectibles simply buy to keep, not really flip. Shift of population age is definitely contributing as is the state of economy. | At the risk of sounding like an @$$, sooner or later those collections will be back on the market when people die.
:s |
| jeffweico | 06-09-2013 08:54 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenBean™
(Post 456850)
Some of the purchases I made from ebay back in the 'day' are sitting in their cabinets.
They get dusted from time to time and are cherished.
I managed to buy ( over about 6 months) 15 pieces of Matt Jonansson crystal sculptures.
Breath taking to say the least. | You have good taste! |
| imjustme | 06-09-2013 08:58 PM | What shocks me a bit is that the best places to buy/sell besides eBay are ArtFire, Rubyland and TIAS.com - all of which look absolutely horrible in terms of design. |
| eBayMafia | 06-09-2013 09:06 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffweico
(Post 456805)
When eBay first came into existence, there were very limited ways to sell antiques and collectibles. There really was no way to put your item in front of thousands of buyers on a national, or international level. Most options were local.
There was a HUGE pent-up demand that eBay unleashed. Word quickly spread that you could list items online at eBay and have several interested potential buyers and get a good price for your stuff. And the auction aspect of it was a lot of fun at first. That has faded quite a bit.
Etsy has taken some of that business. And some of the market simply no longer exists. eBay was the right idea at the right time and it took off like wildfire. But there is no going back.
Having said all that, there will ALWAYS be a market for antiques and collectibles. It is just that these days you need to work harder to get the attention of buyers and you probably won't see huge prices for most of these items, unless they are truly desirable and rare.
Remember Beanie Babies? Comic Books? Sports Cards?
Back in the 1980's, comic books were, HOT, HOT, HOT! Every comic went up in price every year. Marvel and DC regularly put out new first issues, collector's editions, and similar items all of them rapidly increasing in value. The problem is, none of these were actually RARE since they were mass produced and a lot of people were buying them only so they could later re-sell them at a profit. A classic bubble. Today, most of those comics are worthless, or close to worthless. Truly RARE comics, like Superman #1, still sell for a fortune but they are relatively few in number.
Same thing with sports cards and beanie babies and ANYTHING else, really. | I just bought 16,000 comics for $1400, and to be honest, I overpaid but I do like comics and I collect them to own them rather than for their value.
It just seems like things people used to collect 10+ years ago on eBay have just disappeared.
I hit up garage sales like a crack addict looking for crack, and I love storage auctions, estate auctions, police auctions, pretty much anything auctioned. I used to buy a early 90's plastic for 50 cents, spend maybe $4.00 on shipping, a couple bucks on fees, and I would sell it for $18.00 with ease. Now these things won't sell for peanuts. warning ebay link http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from..._dmd=1&_ipg=50
Also, on the topic of eBay changing... does anyone see how bad eBay's traffic has got recently that auction based listings don't sell? It used to be that eBay listings would sell for maybe 10% less than the BIN's, or roughly the same price on weekends. Now, you are lucking if your auction sells for 70% of the lowest BIN price of the same item. I've actually been buying key issues of comic books at auction, and throwing them up as the lowest priced BIN and making an easy $30 or so (after fees and all overhead) within a couple days after I get the comic in the mail. warning ebay link
For example: http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-MUTANTS-...torefresh=true
Just sold for $74, you can resell that as a BIN at $124.99 which makes you the cheapest BIN seller for this item, and in my experience, it will be resold for within 48 hours after posting it, and according to salecalc your profit is about $30.00
I'm currently doing this just for the hell of it and making a decent profit actually to prove a little bit of my theory that someone Could do this for a small part time income if they wanted. |
| jeffweico | 06-09-2013 09:21 PM | I do that with books. You can do it with anything - just look for items that are undervalued and purchase for resale. You just have to know the market and that your item will sell. |
| newjerseymax | 06-09-2013 10:24 PM | Most of my auctions for the summer are at buy it now prices that I feel comfortable. Sometimes falling even below 10th on lowest price. However I am still getting about 12 sales a day at my price. I still throw in some heavier items at auction just to keep cashflow.
You must always be active at this game as things are constantly changing. |
| Sandy D | 06-09-2013 10:41 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by imjustme
(Post 456895)
What shocks me a bit is that the best places to buy/sell besides eBay are ArtFire, Rubyland and TIAS.com - all of which look absolutely horrible in terms of design. | I used to sell on Ruby Lane and Tias both. Slow traffic over the past several years but 5-6 years ago they were amazing.
Both have boring websites and hard on the eyes to search anything. |
| Sandy D | 06-09-2013 10:45 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by imjustme
(Post 456893)
At the risk of sounding like an @$$, sooner or later those collections will be back on the market when people die.
:s |
It is the truth and you dont sound like that at all.
This is what I posted above.
As someone who does buy and sell antiques and collectibles almost every day of the week and have since I was 14 years old I can tell you things are changing quickly.
Actually for the good I believe. The slow down period I believe is over. Other then many younger kids here in the USA going after more usable and not so much collecting for the value to climb later. Older folks bought because they liked it and knew the value would climb if they purchase good items that were as mint as you can find. Things are changing for me because most of the older people who used to bid me up at auctions are now gone, retired or stopped showing up leaving a new younger crowd who dont seem to have the money to bid people up. Also, here in the USA average age is growing older and with that many items in houses are coming up for sale. |
| bigboddie | 06-09-2013 11:31 PM | Collectibles are gang busters for me, you have to know how to buy and ssell them online to rake it in. A couple recent sales for me from last month to back that up.
marvel comics Wolverine 102.5 mail=away special wich was a reprint of the comic puzzle from the Wolverine trading cards. $250.00 cost to me $5.00
G.C.E. Vetrex 3-D goggles mint in box. $850.00 cost to me from local junk shop $10.00
G1 transformers weird wolf mint in open box complete $457.00 cost me at yard sale $3.00
None of this is isolated/once in a blue moon it's a common daily thing for me buying and selling.
Last year I sold a box of General mills fruit brute cereal unopened for $4000.00(cereal boxes from 70s'-80's bring good coin!) check out a forum called cereal bits to see how rabid cereal box collectors can be. |
| GreenBean | 06-10-2013 01:46 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffweico
(Post 456894)
You have good taste! | I got started young.
Through family circumstances I spent a long time living with an Aunty who was into antiques.
Her passion was 'pretty glass' as I first called it. When she realised I had a rapport with this 'pretty glass' she took time to show me what it really was.
It ended up that I was allowed to dust and clean her 'pretty glass' because I could look after it as carefully as her.
Gradually her pieces became mine. |
Quote:
What type of collectibles do you buy?
Antique stuff, artsy stuff, art deco, toys?
| Toys, vintage art deco, handcrafted items of old value Quote:
What time period of items do you buy?
| anytime pre-90s primarily Quote:
Do you ever attend auctions or how do you find your collectibles?
| Find collectibles off of some sale lots and, currently, my own collection being sold - look for deals time to time and see who is moving what largely in my local provinces Quote:
Are there antique malls in Ca?
| There are but way way less than in the USA (populationwise makes sense). |
| Sandy D | 06-10-2013 12:54 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by rsot
(Post 457075)
What type of collectibles do you buy?
Antique stuff, artsy stuff, art deco, toys? Toys, vintage art deco, handcrafted items of old value
What time period of items do you buy? anytime pre-90s primarily
Do you ever attend auctions or how do you find your collectibles? Find collectibles off of some sale lots and, currently, my own collection being sold - look for deals time to time and see who is moving what largely in my local provinces
Are there antique malls in Ca? There are but way way less than in the USA (populationwise makes sense). |
I was told certain areas of Canada you can buy many vintage hand made quilts. Is this true? |
| imjustme | 06-10-2013 06:57 PM | Does anyone know what happened to Crave.com ? They used to have a collectables marketplace, especially for Transformers but also other collectables. Last time I checked a month ago they were quite popular, but now I can't pull up the website for at least a week. |
| GreenBean | 06-10-2013 07:06 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandy D
(Post 457082)
I was told certain areas of Canada you can buy many vintage hand made quilts. Is this true? | I have found some beautiful quilts in Quebec
I have several bassinet size quilts. The crafting is out of this world.
They were purchased years ago ( a different life ago in fact.) Shipped them to my Mom for safety. Parcel took 7 months to arrive. (another story)
:canada: |
Collectibles I sold collectibles and limited edition items for some part time income, before I started doing ecommerce full time.
My experience has been that the demand is pretty high if you can find the right items.
I stopped selling collectibles once going full time because I got hit with a few people who said the item had scratches or nicks when they were definitely in mint condition.
Now I sell things that have a super low scam, return, complain rate. |
Quote:
Originally Posted by bigboddie
(Post 456911)
G1 transformers weird wolf mint in open box complete $457.00 cost me at yard sale $3.00
None of this is isolated/once in a blue moon it's a common daily thing for me buying and selling.
Last year I sold a box of General mills fruit brute cereal unopened for $4000.00(cereal boxes from 70s'-80's bring good coin!) check out a forum called cereal bits to see how rabid cereal box collectors can be. | Oh man Transformers deal - nice find....457! I always have a soft spot for Transformers - one of my special line of sales :) |
| GreenBean | 06-11-2013 07:19 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by bigboddie
(Post 456911)
G1 transformers weird wolf mint in open box complete $457.00 cost me at yard sale $3.00
None of this is isolated/once in a blue moon it's a common daily thing for me buying and selling.
| I had a field day with the Perth Mint ( The Perth Mint - Buy Australian Gold, Silver & Platinum Collector Coins) some years back, when they issued Transformer coins in one ounce silver.
Oh yeah, Transformers rock. |
| Sandy D | 06-11-2013 10:13 PM | Hit up a large thrift store early this morning.
Found 5 1960's barbies in their original boxes.
Idiots wrote the prices in a sharpie marker across the box.
Shows the intel of these people who work at thrift stores.
Barbies are mint, box WAS mint until the idiot wrote 6.99 on them. |
| GreenBean | 06-11-2013 10:16 PM | And for marking an original Barbie at 6.99
Oh dear. No Ken? |
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandy D
(Post 457648)
Barbies are mint, box WAS mint until the idiot wrote 6.99 on them. | Disgusting...absolutely disgusting and tearful to hear |
| Sandy D | 06-11-2013 10:23 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenBean™
(Post 457649)
And for marking an original Barbie at 6.99
Oh dear. No Ken? |
Wish there was as a set would bring more $$.
Some people are just stupid like that to ruin a 50 year old box by using a sharpie marker on the box.
Also picked up a bronze statute and they did the same thing, sharpie marker. But I was able to get it off with the WORKS.
Min Remington. |
Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenBean™
(Post 457611)
| Nice - you sparked my interest at seeing what the coins are |
| GreenBean | 06-12-2013 05:47 PM | @rsot
There was a link to them. May be some on the open market. Not looked lately.
:juggle: |
| Sandy D | 06-12-2013 06:26 PM | My nephews who were kids in the late 80s and early 90s bought up Ninja turtle items.
They never opened them, meaning the figurines etc.
One of them is having their first baby and decided to call me and ask to help them list some of those toys.
I was amazed at the prices items in the original boxes and blister packs brings. |
| jeffweico | 06-12-2013 08:26 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandy D
(Post 457984)
My nephews who were kids in the late 80s and early 90s bought up Ninja turtle items.
They never opened them, meaning the figurines etc.
One of them is having their first baby and decided to call me and ask to help them list some of those toys.
I was amazed at the prices items in the original boxes and blister packs brings. | That is often when these things become valuable. People hit their 40's and remember stuff from their childhood and now they have money. |
Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenBean™
(Post 457965)
@rsot
There was a link to them. May be some on the open market. Not looked lately.
:juggle: | Yes GB - mint is clear sold out (of course) - trying to look at open market now.
@jeffweico, you`re right - reminisce of childhood memories
@Sandy D - ha ninja turtles mint in boxes would fetch quite the pretty penny... |
| imjustme | 06-20-2013 05:36 PM | What do young(er) people collect these days? Seems like lots of women collect "Hello Kitty", but there must be other things too.
I myself collect stamps. Nobody seems to do that anymore. |
| jeffweico | 06-20-2013 08:09 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by imjustme
(Post 460577)
What do young(er) people collect these days? Seems like lots of women collect "Hello Kitty", but there must be other things too.
I myself collect stamps. Nobody seems to do that anymore. | I don't know if this is worldwide or just pertains to the USA, but Hello Kitty has a different meaning among young people here... | | All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:36 PM. | |
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