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ocmajid 06-30-2013 04:25 PM

Maintaining Stealth with High Risk Items
 
I got banned a while ago and I was able to sign up again but have been only using my new ebay/paypal account for buying for over a year now. I have never sold anything on this account because I don't want to take the risk.


I want to start selling on eBay but I'm not sure if the items I'm dealing with are high risk. Do you guys think I can successfully start up a bunch of stealth accounts selling computer parts and computers? Or do you think these types of items will get me banned really fast. I will start very slow with bidding and browsing history and listing very small items the first month or so but do you think I can successfully sell computers ranging from $600+ on multiple different ebay accounts...

JamesNorth101 06-30-2013 04:37 PM

Start slow, keeps buyers happy, get high DSR and pay fees on time. Would take a year or so because it would be safe to list $600 items regularly (or at least that is how long I would wait).

Another option that would hurry the process is buying an aged selling account, depends on your time scale.

ocmajid 06-30-2013 04:54 PM

thanks! Is it common to have a stealth account and sell $3000 worth of items each month without having to verify the SSN?

also I plan on using my main ebay account with my regular ISP I have now and getting a wireless HOTSPOT from ATT to use mainly with my stealth account.. If my stealth account gets banned for some reason will my main account get banned? I will be using two different computers, two different IPs, two different names, two different bank accounts and credit cards, phone numbers..

I'm just worried about getting my main account banned....

JamesNorth101 06-30-2013 04:58 PM

If you are using a wireless ATT hotspot then I think that accounts days are fair numbered. Hundreds of other people could be using the same IP address as you on that hotspot, and half of them could be banned from EB already. Always better to use a service that you control the IP address of.

By the sounds of it the two accounts are link free, so you would be fine.

ocmajid 06-30-2013 05:00 PM

Thanks for being the first person to help me. If I'm successful with selling on eBay I can give you a massive discount on a mac.

JamesNorth101 06-30-2013 05:02 PM

Ha, appreciated, but I dislike Apple immensely :P Although their phone is non to shabby.

Best of luck

jeffweico 06-30-2013 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ocmajid (Post 463520)
thanks! Is it common to have a stealth account and sell $3000 worth of items each month without having to verify the SSN?

PayPal must report any gross sales over $20,000 and 200 items to the IRS. They will require an SSN or an EIN long before you reach either of those points.

JamesNorth101 06-30-2013 05:25 PM

Jeffweico is absolutely right.

They can, and do ask for SSN well before this amount.

PP can pretty much as for it as and when they want, there is no stead fast rule for exactly when they will ask, so always bare that in mind

yotano211 06-30-2013 08:53 PM

I sell computer parts, no computers, its my bread and butter item. I dont find it very high risk. On new accounts I can put 10 hard drives for auction and not have any problems. I dont list very much motherboards or graphics cards but to me those are higher risk since motherboards can be phaked. GPUs can also be phaked by installing a BIOS from a different graphics card or from a professional grade graphics cards and sell it for much higher.

**for example, AMD consumer GPU made into a AMD FirePro or nvidia gefore GPU into a nvidia quadro. Its simple to do and can be done without ever the buyer knowing unless they really look for it. When the computer starts up the BIOS even reads Firepro or Quaddro series graphics card, even with software programs like GPUZ reads it wrong. The buyer usually pays 5-10 times more than the consumer GPU.

ocmajid 06-30-2013 09:19 PM

Thanks for the replies guys. It's encouraging!

mynameis 06-30-2013 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeffweico (Post 463532)
PayPal must report any gross sales over $20,000 and 200 items to the IRS. They will require an SSN or an EIN long before you reach either of those points.

I'm not a U.S seller, but how or where did you hear that?

jeffweico 07-01-2013 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mynameis (Post 463608)
I'm not a U.S seller, but how or where did you hear that?

The IRS... All 2012 sales over that amount needed to be reported by ANY payment processor. That includes PayPal, merchant accounts and any website that takes payments for 3rd party sellers. So, Amazon and Half.com are also included.

Of course, this applies in the USA only.

GreenBean 07-01-2013 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mynameis (Post 463608)
I'm not a U.S seller, but how or where did you hear that?

We pay attention to what paypal says and what they release in news reports.
Payment processors are now obliged by law in the USA of meeting federal tax requirements.
I stress this is specific to the USA.

To give you some background, read the below thread. (Only been on the forum since September 2010).

http://www.aspkin.com/forums/paypal-...-usa-only.html

mynameis 07-01-2013 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeffweico (Post 463613)
The IRS... All 2012 sales over that amount needed to be reported by ANY payment processor. That includes PayPal, merchant accounts and any website that takes payments for 3rd party sellers. So, Amazon and Half.com are also included.

Of course, this applies in the USA only.

Right, but what would they get out of asking for an SSN/EIN? Or why would they not want sellers re-using their SSN on other accounts as long as they get taxed correctly. (So in effect I'm asking why are they allowing stealth accounts to be made without asking for SSN in the first place).

john456 07-01-2013 02:42 AM

To respect the law in US, paypal has to send you an official tax form (1099) when you go beyond the 200/20.000 limits. They have to send the tax form to a SSN/EIN.

It is also a good opportunity for them to ask you for social security number and figure out who you are.


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