Cheap electronics trigger suspicion for new stealth?

[golden_monkey]

Originally Posted by rsot

- the problem with RAM is that a LOT of people are complaining about ⊗⊗⊗⊗ storage listing...so it is a RISKY item...many computer parts and electronic items are risky in general especially for first sales.

wait.......are you talking about ram STICKS? you know... what snaps into your motherboard.

or those USB flash drive things?

[glacier922]

^^^

I am talking about Ram sticks, the kind that goes on your motherboard.

[Sandy D]

Originally Posted by GreenBean™

If your account had the capacity to sell 100 per month, you would not need to ask this question.

What you should think of is getting that account going.

Selling to your limits monthly.

Offer great customer service and be a seller who stays under the radar of ebay/paypal.

As your account grows, so does your level of tolerance with ebay.

Do that and you earn the right to sell higher priced items.

The early days of your account are your foundation days.

You avoid experiments. Trial and error ends in tears.

You sit down with yourself. You make a business plan of say the first 4 months of the account.

Sell items that will bring money, not grief.

As your feedback grows, you start to consider 'bigger & better'.

At the start, avoid rocking the boat.

Then I will not need to be worried about your making a thread of 'heck, I got suspended'.....

This method works.

People get greedy too fast and try to sell items that no longer are tolerated on ebay on a new account.

I have built 100s of baby stealths without losing one single account with my method of selling yard sale, household used junk and it works to perfection.

So I have done the testing as rsot calls it for you.

Do not test and lose any account you cannot afford to lose, esp when other members have already tested it and lost.

Do what others who have been successful have done, learn how to play the ebay game and you win.

[glacier922]

Originally Posted by Sandy D

People get greedy too fast and try to sell items that no longer are tolerated on ebay on a new account.

I have built 100s of baby stealths without losing one single account with my method of selling yard sale, household used junk and it works to perfection.

So I have done the testing as rsot calls it for you.

Do not test and lose any account you cannot afford to lose, esp when other members have already tested it and lost.

Do what others who have been successful have done, learn how to play the ebay game and you win.

Thanks for the info. Do you have any experience on when you can sell electronics after you marinate your baby stealths with yard sales and household goods? Thanks.

[GreenBean]

Originally Posted by glacier922

Thanks for the info. Do you have any experience on when you can sell electronics after you marinate your baby stealths with yard sales and household goods? Thanks.

Originally Posted by Sandy D

Do not know this answer as I do not sell electronics or risky items.

I wait 30 days before I list my high end, high dollar or name brand items.

Any electronics I do sell is vintage or collectible items that are not new.

Older school sellers ( Sandy D & myself) would wait before venturing into big bucks items.

For me, I wait at least two billing cycles, and/or certain number of feedback.

I like patience.

[golden_monkey]

Originally Posted by glacier922

^^^

I am talking about Ram sticks, the kind that goes on your motherboard.

I wouldn't really see that tossing up a red flag but get some feedback and solid sales before you start.

test test test, electronics / computer stuff seems to be scam zone / high customer b*ch rate....ask me how I know I left and never went back. If it isn't your customers your comp goes into high gear screw your day up mode.

[glacier922]

That is so funny because that is the one area where I would imagine it would be difficult to counterfeit and therefore it ought to be safe. I mean seriously, are there western countries that make ram chips? Where are ram chips made? China.

Chanel and coach bags I could see western countries mad of counterfeited, but it's not like you are counterfeiting a western made ram chip. As what most in here has said. It's not the people who make judgements, it's the algorithms.

Wonder why anyone would flag an account with the same degree of concern for counterfeiting as a coach or Chanel handbag.

[GreenBean]

@glacier


Anything made can be copied

Heaps of stuff made is copied

A market gets perceived

Deceit starts

That is part of ebay's reasoning for restrictions

[golden_monkey]

never seen a counterfiet computer part, but selling dead parts.........or getting a box with a hunk of not what you asked for seems to be the scam in that area.

selling end.......customers ripping you off, claiming untrue things or returning things you never sent them.

[JamesNorth101]

See Kingston Ram all the time available for sale on sites like DH. Pretty common place.

Also often see DDR2 sold with a DDR3 label.

Motherboards get done all the time as well

Pretty common place.

[rsot]

Originally Posted by Sandy D

Should not use trial and error with this knowing many members here who have done this and posted they lost many accounts by listing electronics on a brand new account.

Why even try it knowing this information?

It is the OP's decision to do trial and error - logically, after so many posts, this is not the recommendation but should someone wish to explore...first hand can be done. Just part of the game of learning.

[rsot]

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101

Motherboards get done all the time as well

Pretty common place.

Ugh - figures...haven't seen this phenomenon so clearly put out but I can follow the concept

[GreenBean]

Originally Posted by rsot

It is the OP's decision to do trial and error - logically, after so many posts, this is not the recommendation but should someone wish to explore...first hand can be done. Just part of the game of learning.

So all the MC999 you get are from your experiments?

Whatever rocks your boat I guess.

Doing it right and get into selling well from the start works much better for me

[glacier922]

Originally Posted by GreenBean™

@glacier


Anything made can be copied

Heaps of stuff made is copied

A market gets perceived

Deceit starts

That is part of ebay's reasoning for restrictions

I guess what I am trying to say is that even when it is a counterfeit, they are counterfeiting from another Chinese company or manufacture, and I often don't hear people complain about computer parts being foo foo.. Handbags and stuff is wherein really see the authorities jump up and down. Not trying to say that eBay won't issue a mc warning, but to have it listed as a high risk warning baffled me a bit.

[GreenBean]

@glacier

Time for heaps more research

Counterfeit consumer goods - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Read this article. Eye opening o say the least

[rsot]

Originally Posted by glacier922

I guess what I am trying to say is that even when it is a counterfeit, they are counterfeiting from another Chinese company or manufacture, and I often don't hear people complain about computer parts being foo foo.. Handbags and stuff is wherein really see the authorities jump up and down. Not trying to say that eBay won't issue a mc warning, but to have it listed as a high risk warning baffled me a bit.

Authorities getting wise to all kinds of good(ies) - as they should be with the both health at risk and economy.

sidenote: Counterfeit military goods - oh noz!

[zoneout]

Just to save you the trouble of experimenting.... I got an mc999 for listing a BIN $1.99 no-name 3-foot USB cable on a new account. This was one of those plain black ubiquitous USB cables that everyone gets with any camera, gadget, etc.

The take-away here is that anything that smells of electronics is going to trigger an mc999. There are probably other categories that automatically trigger mc999.

[glacier922]

Originally Posted by zoneout

Just to save you the trouble of experimenting.... I got an mc999 for listing a BIN $1.99 no-name 3-foot USB cable on a new account. This was one of those plain black ubiquitous USB cables that everyone gets with any camera, gadget, etc.

The take-away here is that anything that smells of electronics is going to trigger an mc999. There are probably other categories that automatically trigger mc999.

Even after you have successfully called in?

[mynameis]

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101

In the US at the moment MC999 are being handed out left right and centre.

Does this have any correlation as to why US ebay/Paypal are asking to confirm identity? Also why do you think this is?

[zoneout]

Probably has something to do with operation safeguard.

[glacier922]

Okay, got my first feedback as a stealther. I have called in on my first MC999 and passed it. Now I want to put some cheap electronics. Would this trigger any more problems? When you guys said that you experienced problems from selling cheap electronics were you referring to mc999? I told the Ebay rep that I was just going to sell things lying around the house. Since I already answered those questions, I should be okay right? I mean electronics is definitely something lying around the house.

[GreenBean]

I checked where I am living at the moment.....

Geeze, I do not have lots of 512 ram lying around as old used electronics.....



Re-read this thread.

Do it several times.

One feedback and you are doing electronics????