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aicccia 06-12-2014 09:51 PM

Selling below market value can contribute to a MC999
 
I listed some items on new ebay accounts today and I stupidly forgot to link my verified papal account to the ebay accounts and I immediately got a MC999 on all of them.

While talking to ebay to get the restrictions lifted, I was told that listing an item for far below market value(as determined by what everything else similar to it is selling for on ebay) is one of the things that can contribute to a MC999 restriction.

So for anyone looking to sell things cheap and quick to build seller feedback, don't sell it too cheap.

pokerpro 06-12-2014 10:03 PM

Re: Selling below market value can contribute to a MC999
 
Do you mean with a BIN?...certainly not a starting bid?

aicccia 06-12-2014 10:06 PM

Re: Selling below market value can contribute to a MC999
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pokerpro (Post 559703)
Do you mean with a BIN?...certainly not a starting bid?

It was a fixed price listing. My item doesn't have a BIN so I assume he just did a keyword search.

pokerpro 06-13-2014 12:11 AM

Re: Selling below market value can contribute to a MC999
 
Almost same thing,....yea, I 'm sure if a price is way lower than every other one, on a newish account, that could raise a flag.

danshan 06-14-2014 12:45 PM

Re: Selling below market value can contribute to a MC999
 
I really dont believe it, that would take a zillion ma hours to market price and condition of each item

pokerpro 06-14-2014 12:58 PM

Re: Selling below market value can contribute to a MC999
 
Search Apple iphone 5s....sort by price, that took less than 15 seconds....look at the cheapest..if it's $200 less than the next one up......that took another 15 seconds. Red Flag found.

danshan 06-14-2014 01:01 PM

Re: Selling below market value can contribute to a MC999
 
Dude you just like to argue, it took you 15 seconds for one thing now multiply that by how many millions of items? Now how many that wont charge? How many in the wrong category? Have you tried to use the ebay pricing tools or apps out there? They are hard to use and most are just not accurate because of variables. Put a period and a comma on that!

Dmshark25 06-14-2014 01:02 PM

Re: Selling below market value can contribute to a MC999
 
I think after you trip up another security measure or a buyer or competitor reports you or whatever , once the account is looked at than I feel they take a look at the prices right away

I had an account before that the rep had mentioned my prices were low and this was an opening bid,for a 7 day auction , and the recommended opening bid that pops up was .99cents and I started mine at $22.95

So directly I don't think low prices can bring you down but , it can have your competitors calling in on you every minute until they restrict your selling

EBay has be known for a means to cash out on scams, whether it's people buying high end items with a stolen credit card and than dumping them off on eBay for half the price, or recently that family was caught they shoplifted couple million dollars in merchandise over 10 years and sold lot of it on eBay

I have noticed that this is something they are very aware of when asking for invoices, before I thought more along the lines of item authenticity but a couple times they stressed that they needed to see clearly that the items were paid for and needed that part to be clear

danshan 06-14-2014 01:04 PM

Re: Selling below market value can contribute to a MC999
 
I can wait ten years to get limited. Competitors can get you no matter what unless you really know what your doing.

pokerpro 06-14-2014 02:54 PM

Re: Selling below market value can contribute to a MC999
 
Dan...you need to lighten up...my point was, if you're looking, it's easy to do... you can have any angry opinion you want. lol.

danshan 06-14-2014 02:56 PM

Re: Selling below market value can contribute to a MC999
 
Im good i dont need to lighten up at all, you waste peoples time with crap comments and telling new people things that are just not true. If your looking for a forum to argue and have fun use a different section or forum but not the defined sections for solving pp and ebay issues

stanislav 06-14-2014 03:11 PM

Re: Selling below market value can contribute to a MC999
 
Never believe what rep is telling you. They are clueless, trust me.

danshan 06-14-2014 03:12 PM

Re: Selling below market value can contribute to a MC999
 
100% agree

pokerpro 06-14-2014 04:01 PM

Re: Selling below market value can contribute to a MC999
 
Dan...I will compare my selling experience on ebay with you any day..

danshan 06-14-2014 04:02 PM

Re: Selling below market value can contribute to a MC999
 
See the little kid games continue. I hope you have tons of experience and are here to share it just like the rest of us

pokerpro 06-14-2014 04:08 PM

Re: Selling below market value can contribute to a MC999
 
I do...but you just want to make this personal.....so, ok, you're a genius and I bow to you.

danshan 06-14-2014 04:08 PM

Re: Selling below market value can contribute to a MC999
 
Your reply is off topic

danshan 06-14-2014 04:11 PM

Re: Selling below market value can contribute to a MC999
 
I think if you had tons of bin listings and the price was out of whack low and a competitor or just the ebay bullies found them, it could cause you restrictions or review. I do think this review would need to be initiated by something other than JUST price.

SaiJin 06-14-2014 11:04 PM

Re: Selling below market value can contribute to a MC999
 
In regards to selling below market place it really hurts the industry.

Let's face it, there are people who are bottom feeders, but the people who aren't and just want the quality will always look for something that's reasonable, thus it's not always about the price.

And that's the kind of customer you want.

stanislav 06-14-2014 11:53 PM

Re: Selling below market value can contribute to a MC999
 
Chinese online sellers hurt the entire eCommerce industry. Makes me so upset how eBay or Amazon or any other marketplaces which aren't trying to regulate prices. In my opinion there should be a threshold set for each category on eBay. For example, no product could be sold for less than $9.99 (must offer free shipping). So starting price for BIN or Auction must be at least $9.99

Dmshark25 06-15-2014 12:05 AM

Re: Selling below market value can contribute to a MC999
 
I just don't get how it is cheaper to ship something from china to the States than for someone to ship one state over in the US

I realize they are mass shipping , but some prices just seem way to low to every turn any profit

stanislav 06-15-2014 02:42 AM

Re: Selling below market value can contribute to a MC999
 
Their shipping is subsidized by government I guess. Maybe they only pay monthly fee but are required to meet certain monthly volume. So even if they make 20 - 30 cents profit from each $1 but ship 500 parcels a day, that's still over 4k monthly profit and for anyone in China to make this much money per month is considered a lot.

997turbo 06-15-2014 08:55 AM

Re: Selling below market value can contribute to a MC999
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stanislav (Post 560167)
Chinese online sellers hurt the entire eCommerce industry. Makes me so upset how eBay or Amazon or any other marketplaces which aren't trying to regulate prices. In my opinion there should be a threshold set for each category on eBay. For example, no product could be sold for less than $9.99 (must offer free shipping). So starting price for BIN or Auction must be at least $9.99

I dont think so

with localtion in CHINA ,for a same item,I listed same price as my US account with location in US .I get 1 sale per week in chinese account and 6 sales in US.
I then further drop price in that chinese account for 30% less I still get 1 sale per week.

this means buyers who will buying china shipped product,they will keep buying,those who won't buy from overseas for whatever cheaper reason they won't buy. In most cases.

So dont blame chinese sellers,we have limited market,proberly only 30% buyers on ebay will buy item straight from china and those people most like importing stuffs to re-sale.

997turbo 06-15-2014 09:00 AM

Re: Selling below market value can contribute to a MC999
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stanislav (Post 560181)
Their shipping is subsidized by government I guess. Maybe they only pay monthly fee but are required to meet certain monthly volume. So even if they make 20 - 30 cents profit from each $1 but ship 500 parcels a day, that's still over 4k monthly profit and for anyone in China to make this much money per month is considered a lot.

you are kidding.
this much money in china not considered a lot.
You certainly havent been here.
the food price and living cost are exceeding USA price,NO joke.
Compare 3 years ago,there are only 50% chinese ebay sellers still doing ebay business,50% already quit because they can't make enough money and rather do other business.

and this rate still dropping,I believe in another 3 years,you will hardly see any small chinese sellers,only those wholesalers will alive.

stanislav 06-15-2014 11:49 AM

Re: Selling below market value can contribute to a MC999
 
997turbo,

Regardless of what you said earlier I am not naive enough to believe that standards of living in China are the same across all country. China is still a very poor country with much of it's population living on basic needs. I spoke with enough sales people to find out how much a factory worker makes in China while working for 12 hours a day and sometimes even longer. So for a villager to make over 4k profit a month is quite a lot of money. Hopefully after August there will be less Chinese sellers visible on eBay. They have enough outlets to sell their products to local market, they should leave eBay, Amazon etc alone.

danshan 06-15-2014 11:55 AM

Re: Selling below market value can contribute to a MC999
 
What is the avg rent and income in China or at least where you are?

stanislav 06-15-2014 03:19 PM

Re: Selling below market value can contribute to a MC999
 

danshan 06-15-2014 03:23 PM

Re: Selling below market value can contribute to a MC999
 
$700 bucks a month is not going to get it done in any city in the us and that's avg in china

stanislav 06-15-2014 03:32 PM

Re: Selling below market value can contribute to a MC999
 
So now imagine making over 4k a month profit ...

Average salary for factory worker is about $500

danshan 06-15-2014 03:33 PM

Re: Selling below market value can contribute to a MC999
 
Yeah no joke 4k a month is huge there

stanislav 06-15-2014 03:36 PM

Re: Selling below market value can contribute to a MC999
 
It's okay though. After august I hope a lot of these Chinese sellers will disappear from eBay search results due to their excessive defect rate.

jerastraub 06-16-2014 11:03 AM

Re: Selling below market value can contribute to a MC999
 
Trying to get quick feedback is always a bad idea. Stealth is slow and watch it grow!

r00tk3y 06-18-2014 06:45 PM

Re: Selling below market value can contribute to a MC999
 
They will be gone I believe also, there defect rate is high as hell, finally ebay is fixing it, good bye china, and good bye to your declining economy!

Lost in the Supermarket 06-19-2014 08:58 AM

Re: Selling below market value can contribute to a MC999
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by danshan (Post 560088)
Im good i dont need to lighten up at all, you waste peoples time with crap comments and telling new people things that are just not true. If your looking for a forum to argue and have fun use a different section or forum but not the defined sections for solving pp and ebay issues

Yep, you are right. Do it your way dan.

Lost in the Supermarket 06-19-2014 09:00 AM

Re: Selling below market value can contribute to a MC999
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by r00tk3y (Post 560979)
They will be gone I believe also, there defect rate is high as hell, finally ebay is fixing it, good bye china, and good bye to your declining economy!

.....and the trillions in T-bills we owe them for...........


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