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tintin 08-21-2014 11:53 PM

Lots of Top Rated Sellers Status Gone
 
Well, I've been a top rated seller for more than a year. As of yesterday, despite my 100% POSITIVE feedback, I am only "Above Standard" (3.21%).

My position is still the same as before, because all of my competitors who were also TRS are no longer lol.

It's going to be near impossible to be a TRS, and even if you are, it won't last long in my opinion.

I'm just glad I can still sell without issues:clap:

just_smile 08-22-2014 01:15 AM

Re: Lots of Top Rated Sellers Status Gone
 
I'd be interested to see what percentage of accounts have lost trs.

Im barely scraping in at the moment.

Dmshark25 08-22-2014 01:33 AM

Re: Lots of Top Rated Sellers Status Gone
 
I also realized my TRS accounts and aged accounts were getting lost in the search and on the 3 rd page or further

This happened all of a sudden back in March and I just figured the item I was selling was no longer popular and was putting them up for auction because bin listings wouldn't sell

So auctions sold 100% but at $20 less than normal

Than I listed the same item on a new account and it sold within a few hours, I listed another on a new account 0 feedback raised the price, and again it sold, I ended up getting more than normal and being able to get the first listings with a new account and my TRS accounts the listings were lost

So I'm done going nuts to keep that little symbol next to my user ID, eBay obviously is doing everything they can to eliminate sellers and definitely making it impossible to maintain a TRS account

Now I just keep making new accounts and spread sales as thin as possible and I'm getting the top spots, selling at a higher price

When u look like you are an occasional seller u are not noticed by eBay and buyers are not as harsh when they think this is your business

Now I just focus on new accounts and I'm making more and avoiding these ridiculous new standards, selling a few items a month on one account flies nice and low out of everyone's radar , but I pick the right items that will make me good profit and things are a lot better

No sense going against the grain, it's hopeless , eBay doesn't want TRS accounts anymore or small sellers making a living on there platforms , so adjust , and operate under darkness

Geegee83 08-22-2014 03:31 AM

Re: Lots of Top Rated Sellers Status Gone
 
I agree with Dmshark25 - Stuff that would have been lost on my TRS account, sells quickly on a fairly new account, it's crazy.

My only guess is that eBay try and suck in new sellers and make them think it's really easy to sell, so they then sign up for a shop and buy stock and get stuck in the eBay cycle of doom!

rsot 08-22-2014 03:40 AM

Re: Lots of Top Rated Sellers Status Gone
 
TRS accounts have become quite stringent with the standards - get backups going Tintin

Bunneh 08-22-2014 05:37 AM

Re: Lots of Top Rated Sellers Status Gone
 
ebay has opened up a can of worms with these new defect ratings..
If a buyer gives you 3 stars or less on your DSR that effects your defect rating which in turn effects your damn TRS standing..

GreenBean 08-22-2014 06:05 AM

Re: Lots of Top Rated Sellers Status Gone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bunneh (Post 580504)
ebay has opened up a can of worms with these new defect ratings..
If a buyer gives you 3 stars or less on your DSR that effects your defect rating which in turn effects your damn TRS standing..

complicated if you have overseas shipping too.

:doh:

GhostWhoWalks 08-22-2014 08:21 AM

Re: Lots of Top Rated Sellers Status Gone
 
I wonder how you can survive from this change? I know one of my competitions has two accounts and 100% feetback and they remove all the negative feedback somehow but no idea how. But they have a bunch of neutrals so maybe they won't last also cause neutral feedback will hurt them also with defects of getting 1's, 2's, 3's.

MM78 08-22-2014 08:56 AM

Re: Lots of Top Rated Sellers Status Gone
 
Looking at this from a Non-TRS account holder.....I've never had a problem selling my items, not in Auction style nor BIN style....I know there are other perks with TRS but it seems like its more work to keep that TRS than it's worth.

GhostWhoWalks 08-22-2014 09:02 AM

Re: Lots of Top Rated Sellers Status Gone
 
Even TRS at times get 0 sales in a month and non-TRS accounts get 20 sales. And I only run 2 BIN per account.

The system is really weird if you ask me. No idea why but ebay keeps changing things making it harder and harder on sellers over the years.

I really want to get into Amazon. I think I will in the next few months for sure.

SaiJin 08-22-2014 09:31 AM

Re: Lots of Top Rated Sellers Status Gone
 
I completely agree with the first line of statement above. I have mentioned this a couple of times.

WHat I noticed is that TRS has been practically a similar thing to powerseller.
It didn't make sense to have one and I've been paying attention to it for a year at least.

With the "buyer asking a questions which opens a dispute automatically", "and now it counts as a defect", "ridiculous DSR scores" , I foresaw this happening with the TRS logos.

In fact, I'm rather glad I don't have it since it didn't make a difference to me

pokerpro 08-22-2014 09:34 AM

Re: Lots of Top Rated Sellers Status Gone
 
I sell old items auction style and I haven't ever had a problem not being a TRS...I've had a few accounts that were for a while, and it didn't change anything one way or another. I agree with MM......seems like a lot of grief for nothing?

Atw777 08-22-2014 09:37 AM

Re: Lots of Top Rated Sellers Status Gone
 
I know this can change at anytime but all of my accounts became TRS after august 20th

An0nym0u$ 08-22-2014 10:03 AM

Re: Lots of Top Rated Sellers Status Gone
 
I always thought that TRS "badge" was a giant bulls eye. Buyers assume you will move Heaven and Earth to accommodate them. And it seems they pick on my TRS accounts more often... knowing that I will try to maintain the status by working with them.

That 20% discount on FVF is great, but it comes with a lot of headaches. :s

SaiJin 08-22-2014 10:09 AM

Re: Lots of Top Rated Sellers Status Gone
 
My fees are so small, 20% is nothing.

I think eBay now is trying to make the TRS applicable to much bigger sellers who can actually maintain that badge.

GoteBay 08-22-2014 10:09 AM

Re: Lots of Top Rated Sellers Status Gone
 
Another seller here giving up the run for TRS.

On some of my accounts, I am struggling to keep my nose above the water.

As long as I make some profit, let the game continue.

bjammin 08-22-2014 10:39 AM

Re: Lots of Top Rated Sellers Status Gone
 
I cannot see EB keeping the defects going like this. There are lots of things that seem like they are hurting themselves as well. Everything has its own ripple effect. EB is a business, and they are here to make money 1st.

GhostWhoWalks 08-22-2014 10:59 AM

Re: Lots of Top Rated Sellers Status Gone
 
Can anyone remember when ebay did something and it failed and they removed it???? IF so then they might do this as well.

fox20c 08-22-2014 11:20 AM

Re: Lots of Top Rated Sellers Status Gone
 
I do auctions exclusively, always word everything like a noob. But always ship and reply like a pro. Never had a problem with sales and people actually seem to be a little bit more forgiving since Im "new" at the whole thing. As for eBay, I really wish I knew (for sure) what they are trying to accomplish with all this?

jjohnson777 08-22-2014 03:05 PM

Re: Lots of Top Rated Sellers Status Gone
 
Miss old ebay. When first joined all seller had real merchant accounts. Now got to pay with PayPal. I used to buy daily at ebay now once a month if lucky.

howie707 08-23-2014 05:25 PM

Re: Lots of Top Rated Sellers Status Gone
 
I have been top rated 100% positive feedback for over a year and now above standard. If EBay thinks that this is going to help keep buyers coming back, they are wrong. It is going to drive sellers away.

The same reason is because buyers open cases needlessly. Item not as described. When the item leaves the warehouse in a VERY well designed, high quality and packed expertly condition and the carrier (FEDEX) destroys the package, the buyer opens a case- "ITEM NOT AS DESCRIBED" I guess not, FEDEX has beat it all to xxxx (and I mean numerous per month) we as a whole ship an average of 12,000 items a day! Shipping is open 24 hrs a day 5 days a week. Buyers do not have an option "ITEM DESTROYED BY CARRIER"

To continue: EBay changes things to protect buyers and the sellers get the shaft!!! When your company gives EBay SEVERAL HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS A YEAR they will miss that when you realize that Amazon is a GREAT OPTION AND OPENING SEVERAL online stores cuts that MIDDLE MAN right out, feedback, seller ratings and all the other OVER-PRICED GARBAGE go's right out the window. Of course, you need to handle your online stores with the same HIGH standards as you do on EBay, however, your not having unjustified, continuous changes that are BUYER FRIENDLY and SELLER NIGHTMARES.

It is going to be UNJUSTIFIED CASES opened by buyers that is going to cause sellers to move on down the road. It will not be long before a group of investors are going to "swoop in" and take a big chunk of EBay away and it is going to be EBays own fault. Do they even realize that there is hundreds of thousands if not millions of buyers that REFUSE TO USE EBAY because of their practices.

They do not realize that it is a double edged sword that they are messing with when they make these BUYER FRIENDLY - SELLER NIGHTMARE decisions that bite them in the rump, when they are trying to draw in and keep buyers. They have never crawled out of that box and taken a wide angle view of what they are doing to themselves. That's all I have to say. The rest will come out when they see their bottom line dropping and dropping!=}-

fox20c 08-23-2014 05:57 PM

Re: Lots of Top Rated Sellers Status Gone
 
I think we are all in the same boat and of the same mind on this subject. Gonna be interesting to see what comes of all this and eBay's response.

SaiJin 08-23-2014 09:48 PM

Re: Lots of Top Rated Sellers Status Gone
 
Actually it seems that eBay is extending the courtesy upto March 2015.

Right now all my accounts are above standard weird enough.

Gamefreak 08-23-2014 11:23 PM

Re: Lots of Top Rated Sellers Status Gone
 
screw ebay, im glad i left and went to amazon 3 years ago. but nothing but happy ever since mak 50x as much as i do on ebay and little to no issues

HurricaneHuntr 08-25-2014 10:10 PM

Re: Lots of Top Rated Sellers Status Gone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dmshark25 (Post 580442)
I also realized my TRS accounts and aged accounts were getting lost in the search and on the 3 rd page or further

This happened all of a sudden back in March and I just figured the item I was selling was no longer popular and was putting them up for auction because bin listings wouldn't sell

So auctions sold 100% but at $20 less than normal

Than I listed the same item on a new account and it sold within a few hours, I listed another on a new account 0 feedback raised the price, and again it sold, I ended up getting more than normal and being able to get the first listings with a new account and my TRS accounts the listings were lost

So I'm done going nuts to keep that little symbol next to my user ID, eBay obviously is doing everything they can to eliminate sellers and definitely making it impossible to maintain a TRS account

Now I just keep making new accounts and spread sales as thin as possible and I'm getting the top spots, selling at a higher price

When u look like you are an occasional seller u are not noticed by eBay and buyers are not as harsh when they think this is your business

Now I just focus on new accounts and I'm making more and avoiding these ridiculous new standards, selling a few items a month on one account flies nice and low out of everyone's radar , but I pick the right items that will make me good profit and things are a lot better

No sense going against the grain, it's hopeless , eBay doesn't want TRS accounts anymore or small sellers making a living on there platforms , so adjust , and operate under darkness

You must be using a ****load of legitimate bank accounts. I won't even add a bank to the 10 limit accounts, until they get bumped to 30+ items or more. I have some going on 5 months that look like they may never get bumped with near 50 selling feedback and 100% and others that got bumped with 15 feedback.Seems random, but again i am not opening hundreds of bank accounts and alerting someone to file a SAR on me. Hopefully it all works out for you.

Dmshark25 08-25-2014 11:56 PM

Re: Lots of Top Rated Sellers Status Gone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Moscutter (Post 581894)
You must be using a ****load of legitimate bank accounts. I won't even add a bank to the 10 limit accounts, until they get bumped to 30+ items or more. I have some going on 5 months that look like they may never get bumped with near 50 selling feedback and 100% and others that got bumped with 15 feedback.Seems random, but again i am not opening hundreds of bank accounts and alerting someone to file a SAR on me. Hopefully it all works out for you.

I don't have many bank accounts, I use mainly VBAs and a couple prepaid cards, and I keep the real banks for a select few accounts, so mainly VBAs to verify

More and more there have been many options besides just bank accounts to get my funds

renzini 08-26-2014 12:16 AM

Re: Lots of Top Rated Sellers Status Gone
 
Ebay did a big mistake with this new top rated status. Is basically impossible for a business / ebay account selling in different category items to be a top rated seller.

This will make many sellers to stop selling items that can put in risk their accounts.

Good for other marketplace sites but a step back for eBay.

Dmshark25 08-26-2014 12:22 AM

Re: Lots of Top Rated Sellers Status Gone
 
I would have to think that this is the result they wanted, I mean it's a billion dollar company, they have something planned

pzlv 08-26-2014 02:11 AM

Re: Lots of Top Rated Sellers Status Gone
 
TRS means nothing to me. I sell a ton more, and easier on a new account than I do with an aged account, I think it's the ebay search algorithm, they like putting new sellers up on showcase so that the new sellers get excited and stick with it, and then shove them down a little more each week enough that they don't notice it right away. They've seriously lost sight, but that's nothing new. Any company that will suspend a paypal account, and then cry that they're not getting their seller fees paid just has no idea what they're doing, and mainly run by suits who can't see the entire picture from their summer homes in Boca.

Dmshark25 08-26-2014 02:15 AM

Re: Lots of Top Rated Sellers Status Gone
 
I agree with that, I thought it was my products at first , than there was some issue with

google that everyone was saying, and when I started listing on my new accounts I was

back in business, selling bin listings at top dollar again, where my aged and TRS account's listings were so buried sales were terrible

I think it has to do with eBay doing a complete house cleaning, if they didn't get the aged accounts with the defect system , they would kill there business by screwing up the search

GreenBean 08-26-2014 02:49 AM

Re: Lots of Top Rated Sellers Status Gone
 
Stanislav is going to agree with both of the posts by DMDshark25 & pzlv.

The more reports, the better the observations to attempt to work out WHY.

ah ebay!

:smash:

Callidus 08-26-2014 02:54 AM

Re: Lots of Top Rated Sellers Status Gone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenBean (Post 581966)
Stanislav is going to agree with both of the posts by DMDshark25 & pzlv.

The more reports, the better the observations to attempt to work out WHY.

ah ebay!

:smash:

Stanislav may agree, but to be posting such general statements on other threads that ALL eBay sellers are DOWN on YTD sales is somewhat ridiculous.

:smash:

GreenBean 08-26-2014 02:57 AM

Re: Lots of Top Rated Sellers Status Gone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Callidus (Post 581968)
Stanislav may agree, but to be posting such general statements on other threads that ALL eBay sellers are DOWN on YTD sales is somewhat ridiculous.

:smash:

You had your say on that in the relevant thread.

You got your reaction.

Now move on and discuss correctly.

No need for the jibes. Going to perpetuate bad feelings.

:peace:

oompaloompa 08-26-2014 03:02 AM

Re: Lots of Top Rated Sellers Status Gone
 
now when I source items, I make sure they can be sold on az first, ebay gets the left overs that have not sold....if it is not appropriate for az, it does not get purchased by me......but az fees are over the top too.....and they turn around and sell for not much more than you can source stuff on the majority of goods, they do not pay fee but we have to....

rsot 08-26-2014 03:26 AM

Re: Lots of Top Rated Sellers Status Gone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GhostWhoWalks (Post 580581)
Can anyone remember when ebay did something and it failed and they removed it???? IF so then they might do this as well.

You are asking for return to past...doubt it will happen :(

GhostWhoWalks 08-26-2014 04:24 AM

Re: Lots of Top Rated Sellers Status Gone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 581983)
You are asking for return to past...doubt it will happen :(

Man if I knew what I knew today Rsot.

I'd go back in time, make like 100 stealths with all of them with no limits!

OMG! :thumb:

HurricaneHuntr 08-26-2014 05:42 AM

Re: Lots of Top Rated Sellers Status Gone
 
Ebay's not changing this, i was all over the last update.Trolled the seller update forum, watched the webinars with the ebay morons , the town halls etc... They are doing it because their metrics show there was too many TRS compared to what they had envisioned. They have all the metrics of it, can you imagine how much 20% will save them over a year ? Me alone they will save close to 300$ probably a month,ok maybe a bit less.I still have some TRS accounts. TRS is meaningless in the grand scheme of buying. Powerseller accounts stop the less than 7 negatives, which is nice. But best match is still by default the best thing you can be. I have a product i sell for double the price of price + shipping lowest, a competitor sells the same item with over 1k feedback for let's say $5 but i sell it for $10 because i am #1 in best match, or #2 etc.. And i sell them FAST. He must be one royally pissed off guy.

GhostWhoWalks 08-26-2014 09:39 AM

Re: Lots of Top Rated Sellers Status Gone
 
I got like so many TRS and none of them are getting this 20% discount. Every time I call about one of the accounts about it. I get someone who can't speak English, or doesn't know jack! And gives me a different lame answer every time!

Ebay go shove it up your ......

Yours truly, Friendly Ghost.

rsot 08-26-2014 10:17 AM

Re: Lots of Top Rated Sellers Status Gone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GhostWhoWalks (Post 582081)
I got like so many TRS and none of them are getting this 20% discount. Every time I call about one of the accounts about it. I get someone who can't speak English, or doesn't know jack! And gives me a different lame answer every time!

Ebay go shove it up your ......

Yours truly, Friendly Ghost.

No one is forcing you to sell on eB...no gun to your head... :FF:

GhostWhoWalks 08-26-2014 10:30 AM

Re: Lots of Top Rated Sellers Status Gone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 582089)
No one is forcing you to sell on eB...no gun to your head... :FF:

You are right, the gun is in my wallet pointing at prices in public! :)

Anyways I just got TRS email over night for another account. This means I won't get no more sales anymore knowing ebay. :laugh::pound:

20% discount see false ads Rsot like I said in my other thread! Everything is a LIE!


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