| | | hustler_nyc | 09-30-2014 01:46 AM | Ebay limits & how they decide who to limit Question: Has anybody figured out the method to Ebay's madness limitation wise? For instance I got 2 accounts with 100/5000 limit and one has category limits, one doesn't!? Same exact amount of information given in both accounts? Why do certain accounts go 15 months 10/1000 and some go to 100/500 in 2 months? Theres obviously some algorithm or method that is used..anyone??? |
| masimo | 09-30-2014 01:55 AM | Re: Ebay limits & how they decide who to limit Ebay would never reveal this |
| JamesNorth101 | 09-30-2014 02:15 AM | Re: Ebay limits & how they decide who to limit We are pretty sure darts and a large chart are involved in deciding limits.... |
| Callidus | 09-30-2014 02:35 AM | Re: Ebay limits & how they decide who to limit Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesNorth101
(Post 593018)
We are pretty sure darts and a large chart are involved in deciding limits.... | ...and usually whether they are motivated for work on that day or not is a huge deciding factor. |
| bjammin | 09-30-2014 06:17 AM | Re: Ebay limits & how they decide who to limit Lots have tried testing this experiment, and the result has always been randomness. The way EB seems to operate, an algorithm just doesn't seem to be their cup of tea. |
| pokerpro | 09-30-2014 08:25 AM | Re: Ebay limits & how they decide who to limit It' probably just as simple as monkeys picking User ID's out of a hat. |
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Re: Ebay limits & how they decide who to limit I think we should have Aspkin make a new sub-category on the forum under the topic of ebay selling limits. It wont be much to do with discussions like this, but rather when a seller gets an increase in limits, they simply post a thread stating things like:
1. what increase they received.
2. what were their sales pattern like.
3. how often they were selling.
...basically as much information as possible.
and hopefully in a few months we might be able to find a pattern that emerges...you never know. |
Re: Ebay limits & how they decide who to limit Quote:
Originally Posted by Play
(Post 593104)
1. what increase they received.
2. what were their sales pattern like.
3. how often they were selling.
...basically as much information as possible.
and hopefully in a few months we might be able to find a pattern that emerges...you never know. | People are not always going to be open about their selling patterns, how much they sell, etc.....Some things are still going to be anonymous. |
Re: Ebay limits & how they decide who to limit Quote:
Originally Posted by MM78
(Post 593107)
People are not always going to be open about their selling patterns, how much they sell, etc.....Some things are still going to be anonymous. | Your right, any chance maybe to make that area anonymous maybe? We will never get a result otherwise. Period. |
| JamesNorth101 | 09-30-2014 09:14 AM | Re: Ebay limits & how they decide who to limit Its really not a good idea.
There really is no pattern. A lot of us have created enough accounts to know that |
| Callidus | 09-30-2014 09:17 AM | Re: Ebay limits & how they decide who to limit There is no pattern, there is no method in their madness. Just keep selling to your limits :) |
Re: Ebay limits & how they decide who to limit Quote:
Originally Posted by Play
(Post 593109)
Your right, any chance maybe to make that area anonymous maybe? We will never get a result otherwise. Period. | Here's the thing, if there was a pattern....we would of found it, increase selling limits are random. People are always wanting to know what the pattern is, what will do it, sadly NO ONE knows, no one has the secret formula! |
| Klemantina | 09-30-2014 09:26 AM | Re: Ebay limits & how they decide who to limit There might be more global pattern in the algorithm, not just what you sell, how much you sell, how much demand but also the global amount of sales. I guess when the global amount of sales and total eBay revenue goes down, they will tell their employees to increase more limits which will be based on different algorithm. Different algorithms for different periods and different situations makes it look like its random.
I doubt employees can freely increase limits without following certain rules, unless they have nothing to be afraid off. |
| bjammin | 09-30-2014 09:28 AM | Re: Ebay limits & how they decide who to limit |
| Callidus | 09-30-2014 09:30 AM | Re: Ebay limits & how they decide who to limit Quote:
Originally Posted by Klemantina
(Post 593114)
There might be more global pattern in the algorithm, not just what you sell, how much you sell, how much demand but also the global amount of sales. I guess when the global amount of sales and total eBay revenue goes down, they will tell their employees to increase more limits which will be based on different algorithm. Different algorithms for different periods and different situations makes it look like its random.
I doubt employees can freely increase limits without following certain rules, unless they have nothing to be afraid off. | Times of the month as well does have an effect. |
| GoteBay | 09-30-2014 09:48 AM | Re: Ebay limits & how they decide who to limit I tend to disagree, there are algorithms they follow to increase and decrease limits. Lets see the following:
1. Most natural limits are increased without a human touch, why.
2. Limits that go from 10/$1000 to 100/$XXXX can stay for a very long time in most cases until account gets in trouble
3. Limits can go from 10-20-60-180- or 10-30-90-270-
4. Limits that are saved from MC999 to 25/$XXXX, do not receive natural increases because of initial human intervention, they MUST be a code added to the account.
5. When a case is opened in an account even if it was UPI, sales are slow - definite drop in search ranking
6. Account without any open case, sales increase.
7. Account is TRS, sales increase
8. Defect rates a definite killer
These are just a few examples. If you see the limit increase pattern, there is a set algorithm. I can clearly see a geometric progression in (3) above. The algorithm is set to certain conditions that trigger the progression or regression in case of below standard.
I have seen a regression if the account is not doing well or "Below Standard". eBay tend to send warning, reduce selling limits monthly and impose the 21 cash hold in Paypal, until the seller loses the account.
I am sure, there are people who can to my little 2 cents. |
| Klemantina | 09-30-2014 09:55 AM | Re: Ebay limits & how they decide who to limit Everything have an effect. Your fart can affect someone's judgement which can lead to millions of consequences which will end in third world war. |
| Callidus | 09-30-2014 09:58 AM | Re: Ebay limits & how they decide who to limit They say to get automatic increases they want to see a conversion of 10-15%, this is the same if you ever were to call and try and get an increase. I think the conversion coupled with the amount of feedback and sales made plays the biggest part.
However, I have had increases from 25 -> 80 after listing 1 item, that's without even selling an item.....so who knows. |
| GoteBay | 09-30-2014 10:08 AM | Re: Ebay limits & how they decide who to limit Quote:
Originally Posted by Callidus
(Post 593129)
However, I have had increases from 25 -> 80 after listing 1 item, that's without even selling an item.....so who knows. | The 25 items limits I am talking about is common when you pass MC999 call-in for USA accounts. |
| Callidus | 09-30-2014 10:09 AM | Re: Ebay limits & how they decide who to limit Quote:
Originally Posted by GoteBay
(Post 593134)
The 25 items limits I am talking about is common when you pass MC999 call-in for USA accounts. | Yes very different from UK - sorry I was only referring to UK accs. |
| mhmhmh1111 | 09-30-2014 01:16 PM | Re: Ebay limits & how they decide who to limit there is no method whatsoever...i have two accounts from 2012 that are both top rated with 100+ feedback and the selling limit has been at 1250 for both since then..all you can do is try and call in(which i have done) with success and other times they restrict you from selling until you verify info..it really is hit or miss..just keep stacking accounts |
| bjammin | 09-30-2014 01:25 PM | Re: Ebay limits & how they decide who to limit Quote:
Originally Posted by mhmhmh1111
(Post 593179)
there is no method whatsoever...i have two accounts from 2012 that are both top rated with 100+ feedback and the selling limit has been at 1250 for both since then..all you can do is try and call in(which i have done) with success and other times they restrict you from selling until you verify info..it really is hit or miss..just keep stacking accounts | 25/$1250 ? |
| hustler_nyc | 09-30-2014 02:23 PM | Re: Ebay limits & how they decide who to limit There are some things on this forum so people FORBID to ever do, others have no problem "trying" to call ebay. I have done so with luck and restriction in the past but I NEED as much listings as possible. Im coming up to my 1 month mark on 4 of my new accounts.
By the way if a account gets MC999 they CANT get a auto increase due to a manual person removing the original MC999??? Never really useful to know. |
| hustler_nyc | 09-30-2014 02:24 PM | Re: Ebay limits & how they decide who to limit What the highest limits stealth can get? Like say I have 10 new accounts..its random I know but say 2 accounts get the highest anyone here gets, thats not unlimited is it? |
| hustler_nyc | 09-30-2014 02:36 PM | Re: Ebay limits & how they decide who to limit By the way if we did make a separate category to list selling patterns. Put it this way, just because its not understood doesn't mean there isn't a method! This is like the holy grail for this site. If could figure that out..keep it secret, ALL who knew it benefit 10 fold. Its worth at least talking about... |
| JamesNorth101 | 09-30-2014 02:44 PM | Re: Ebay limits & how they decide who to limit It would not stay secret for long.
This is an open forum |
| hustler_nyc | 09-30-2014 03:00 PM | Re: Ebay limits & how they decide who to limit Some of you are wizards at this. Especially the people with ebay 4 years plus..theres gotta be a way. |
| JamesNorth101 | 09-30-2014 03:13 PM | Re: Ebay limits & how they decide who to limit eBays methods change on a weekly/daily basis.
Concentrate on selling to your limits and getting good DSR, good feedback and having low defects and the limits will increase on their own. |
Re: Ebay limits & how they decide who to limit @hustler_nyc
You mentioned you had no luck when you called ebay to increase your limits. Not 100% how it works in the US, but in the UK I have never been refused an increase of limits so long as everything was tick-tock.
Also if your reaching your limits on all four accounts, just go ahead and open another four more. No harm at all. Just follow the stealth protocol. ;) |
| hustler_nyc | 09-30-2014 05:14 PM | Re: Ebay limits & how they decide who to limit Well I'm sure everyone here would agree if you live in US and call Ebay..if its overseas they're BAD for stealth help, if its someone in the US that you talk to its usually a different story. Whenever I call its someone from overseas (90% of the time).
Does anyone know the highest limit(s) you can get for a ebay account? The highest I have got was 150 for listings (I know thats not a lot). I know of 1250 but can stealths get 5000 listings/unlimited per account? If so how long did it take you? ..Very interested.
Note: I sell things that AREN'T VERO so I foresee myself being able to sustain accounts without suspensions. I feel like after that 6 month mark..as long as its not VERO and you don't slip up on your customer service, you shouldn't be limited. |
| JamesNorth101 | 09-30-2014 05:21 PM | Re: Ebay limits & how they decide who to limit Quote:
Originally Posted by hustler_nyc
(Post 593270)
Note: I sell things that AREN'T VERO so I foresee myself being able to sustain accounts without suspensions. | Account do not just get limited from Vero issues. Often the account issues stem from poor customer service resulting in low DSR and high defects. Quote:
Originally Posted by hustler_nyc
(Post 593270)
I feel like after that 6 month mark..as long as its not VERO and you don't slip up on your customer service, you shouldn't be limited. | eBay feel differently.
No limit accounts simply do not exist other than for big box sellers.
There is no solid upper limit, but it will never be totally unlimited. |
| hustler_nyc | 09-30-2014 05:23 PM | Re: Ebay limits & how they decide who to limit What is the highest though? 1250 monthly listings for stealth or can it get higher? I know to always spread amongst accounts but theres nothing wrong with have go to accounts. |
Re: Ebay limits & how they decide who to limit Quote:
Originally Posted by hustler_nyc
(Post 593275)
What is the highest though? 1250 monthly listings for stealth or can it get higher? I know to always spread amongst accounts but theres nothing wrong with have go to accounts. | I dont think there is a limit. So long as your hitting the limit and excelling in terms of service you will get a raise (or maybe not if you waiting around for an auto-increase). But I doubt there is a numerical value that says you cannot sell more than this on ebay, never heard of such. |
| Dmshark25 | 10-01-2014 09:26 AM | Re: Ebay limits & how they decide who to limit The biggest increases I have received have been on accounts that I may have or have not sold one low risk low cost item, no more than $5.00, and than just let the account sit for 6-8 weeks
Many times I'd list my first item and get an increase sometimes straight to 100/10000, with no feedback and no sales, and I still get the email saying we have noticed you been selling well blah blah blah....
On one account a year ago I made the account sold nothing, 6 weeks after limits raised to 100/10000 with the first listing
And than two weeks later with a feedback of 6 I jumped to 300/30,000 a month and in just 2 months PayPal holds were lifted, the fastest ever for PayPal holds to lift for me, I always need to wait at least 90 days |
| pokerpro | 10-01-2014 10:50 AM | Re: Ebay limits & how they decide who to limit I've been on ebay for 16 years, and I sure have not seen or figured a pattern...However, I agree with shark, my biggest increases have some on accounts that I sold a couple of items and then let them sit for 4 or 5 weeks... |
| hustler_nyc | 10-01-2014 04:49 PM | Re: Ebay limits & how they decide who to limit At the moment I'm not at the liberty to wait. I'm playing stealth smart but hey if I get a account limited I only learn from it (what to/not to list). The whole list a item wait 4-5 weeks is a future plan of mine after the holidays. I have about 7 accounts so stacking more seems like the way to go. It would be nice in the future to have like 5 top seller accounts and the rest just backups but I guess only ebay/time will tell.
100/1000 isn't exactly the limit increase I'm shoot for.. I'd like the 500+. Although 100/1000 clearly adds up with lots of stealths in rotation.
Starting stealth is like climbing a mountain very slowly all the while knowing whats EXACTLY on the other side. |
| hustler_nyc | 10-01-2014 04:52 PM | Re: Ebay limits & how they decide who to limit I have not sold VERO so I can't attest to the troubles people have on here but I strongly feel after 6 months as long as customer service is on point and your not selling crazy amounts of items on any given account there should be NO reason for a limitation. Unless you have a misstep stealth wise. |
| JamesNorth101 | 10-01-2014 04:58 PM | Re: Ebay limits & how they decide who to limit Quote:
At the moment I'm not at the liberty to wait
| Stealth does take time.
If you rush into it you will just loose a lot of accounts, time and then have to start again. |
| ooooo.halo | 10-06-2014 02:44 PM | Re: Ebay limits & how they decide who to limit Quote:
Originally Posted by MM78
(Post 593097)
I found the Selling Increase Team Members....Now please, do not look directly at them, if possible please send them more banana's....this will appease them! http://i58.tinypic.com/2rqhkbk.jpg | I cant stop laughing at that image | | All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:06 PM. | |
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