| | | copley1 | 10-01-2014 07:49 AM | inkfrog open and its multiple stealth + messaging features. As we all know inkfrog is useful for managing multiple ids.
However, they have recently released inkfrog open, which provides the ability to manage all of your messages from one place.
My only worry is that although it appears you create and generate tokens to add your ebay id like the old inkfrog, that because it appears to now be an ebay app that linking would occur.
Any thoughts and previous experience is greatly appreciated. If it doesn't link (i have not tried more than one account in case it does link) then this is a pretty big innovation for stealth users as inkfrog open is free to all users at the moment and the messaging feature included in inkfrog open is pretty darn good |
| MagicBox | 10-02-2014 01:04 AM | Re: inkfrog open and its multiple stealth + messaging features. Quote:
Originally Posted by copley1
(Post 593541)
As we all know inkfrog is useful for managing multiple ids.
However, they have recently released inkfrog open, which provides the ability to manage all of your messages from one place.
My only worry is that although it appears you create and generate tokens to add your ebay id like the old inkfrog, that because it appears to now be an ebay app that linking would occur.
Any thoughts and previous experience is greatly appreciated. If it doesn't link (i have not tried more than one account in case it does link) then this is a pretty big innovation for stealth users as inkfrog open is free to all users at the moment and the messaging feature included in inkfrog open is pretty darn good | To be safe I think the best way using ink frog open is trough the URL website and not trough the built in app in ebay .
Just be cheerfully guys when you adding accounts in to it and make sure each accounts requesting token from a different ip and his own user account...
After that you should be fine since all the communication and syncing will handled trough there server and they are not sharing ip , and if yes it will be 1 ip for all ink frog members so it will not be an issue . |
Re: inkfrog open and its multiple stealth + messaging features. I signed up to inkfrog yesterday, very nice tool. Now from this thread it seems they have inkfrog open, are they the only two or are there more? and what is the difference between the two, as the only difference I see is the added messaging tool.
As for using the app, I cant quite get the gist of whether your saying the inkfrog app is built into the ebay app (which should be avoided completely for stealth reasons) or if there is a separate app (in which case all requests will be handed through inkfrog servers and you should not worry about having problems with your stealth accounts), it would work similar to you replying to ebay messages via an email app on your phone, request will be handled by the email app and ebay wont see your ip - if they tried really hard they could, but their not for some odd reason.
Thanks. |
| GoteBay | 10-02-2014 08:25 AM | Re: inkfrog open and its multiple stealth + messaging features. Inkfrog sends out email reminders to buyers using username@inkfrog.com.
Based on what I have seen, when that email is sent to buyers, the only thing that links it to eBay are the other items sold by the same seller.
When a buyer hits reply, that email is only sent to inkfrog. |
Re: inkfrog open and its multiple stealth + messaging features. Quote:
Originally Posted by GoteBay
(Post 593917)
Inkfrog sends out email reminders to buyers using username@inkfrog.com.
Based on what I have seen, when that email is sent to buyers, the only thing that links it to eBay are the other items sold by the same seller.
When a buyer hits reply, that email is only sent to inkfrog. | So are you saying its safe, or not? |
| GoteBay | 10-02-2014 03:17 PM | Re: inkfrog open and its multiple stealth + messaging features. Quote:
Originally Posted by Play
(Post 593961)
So are you saying its safe, or not? | My accounts have not been suspended. |
Re: inkfrog open and its multiple stealth + messaging features. Thanks.
Also it seems they have inkfrog and inkfrog open, are they the only two or are there more? and what is the difference between the two, as the only difference I see is the added messaging tool. |
| toml3030 | 10-02-2014 04:26 PM | Re: inkfrog open and its multiple stealth + messaging features. Quote:
Originally Posted by GoteBay
(Post 593917)
Inkfrog sends out email reminders to buyers using username@inkfrog.com. | Why would you even need to link separate Inkfrog Open accounts? It's free and you can run multiple stealth accounts from different windows user accounts using multiple Inkfrog Open accounts, correct? |
| GoteBay | 10-02-2014 06:53 PM | Re: inkfrog open and its multiple stealth + messaging features. Quote:
Originally Posted by toml3030
(Post 594067)
Why would you even need to link separate Inkfrog Open accounts? It's free and you can run multiple stealth accounts from different windows user accounts using multiple Inkfrog Open accounts, correct? | My apologies, I don't understand your questions. |
| copley1 | 10-03-2014 03:12 AM | Re: inkfrog open and its multiple stealth + messaging features. To all curious about inkfrog and inkfrog open yes they are two different things.
Inkfrog open can be accessed through eBay directly OR through their url (which of course i would advocate to anyone).
Inkfrog standard unfortunately does not have a messaging feature (so i a pain for eBay messaging) HOWEVER Inkfrog open is a complete seperate and new program that has inbuilt eBay messaging facilities so is perfect for stealth users. It is also free.
My only worry was the linking when sending lots of different messages from different ids within inkfrog open? |
| copley1 | 10-03-2014 03:32 AM | Re: inkfrog open and its multiple stealth + messaging features. You can but what would the point of using inkfrog open in that way?
Would it not be better to put all ebay user id under one inkfrog open and go from there.
Time is money.
Only question in this thread is really regarding whether it links :) Quote:
Originally Posted by toml3030
(Post 594067)
Why would you even need to link separate Inkfrog Open accounts? It's free and you can run multiple stealth accounts from different windows user accounts using multiple Inkfrog Open accounts, correct? | |
Re: inkfrog open and its multiple stealth + messaging features. @copley1, GoteBay has already confirmed his account dont suspend after using multiple stealth id's under one inkfrog account.
@toml3030, I think I understand your query but you have misread the previous posts and gone off on a tangent. OP is not attempting to link inkfrog accounts, he is seeking to find out if using multiple ebay id's under one inkfrog account + using their embedded messaging system would compromise his stealth accounts.
@OP - If its too much of a concern, you can download an email application, put all email in one combined app, and reply... just make sure "images/attachments" are disabled as they carry becons which can obtain your IP. |
| voltron | 11-16-2014 05:40 PM | Re: inkfrog open and its multiple stealth + messaging features. @Play - What email application is it please? I have become a member of open inkfrog, however as you the 14th I'm not getting any new emails come through. That's 2 whole days.
Thanks in advance. |
| solefoodbk | 11-16-2014 08:31 PM | Re: inkfrog open and its multiple stealth + messaging features. Please everyone using open.inkfrog be careful.
I just signed up for inkfrog.com and had a "meeting" with one of their specialist. During the meeting I had asked her whats the deal with this open.inkfrog and whats the difference to you?
Well....she told me its a sister company run by two completely different companies. It has completely different developers. The only reason I mention this is because the name itself is deceiving. It looks like its simply a updated version of inkfrog.com but its not.
I would be careful as its not been tested in the long term that the messaging service doesn't supply a link.
Were talking about linking ALL accounts if something were to happen. Too me thats simply not a risk worth taking. |
| trosky | 11-17-2014 05:23 PM | Re: inkfrog open and its multiple stealth + messaging features. Their messaging service works through ebay messages so there shouldn't be any linking done on accounts, I personally haven't had any issues with multiple accounts.
One more thing, their customer service is top notch, I emailed them asking for a feature...adding more information in their order page, item name, buyer id etc and less than 5 hours later the feature is there...so you're welcome guys lol |
| solefoodbk | 11-17-2014 06:52 PM | Re: inkfrog open and its multiple stealth + messaging features. There service is top notch! Thats good to know about the message system. Its just so new I feel very hesitant to use it.
BTW how long have you been using this feature? |
| trosky | 11-17-2014 07:18 PM | Re: inkfrog open and its multiple stealth + messaging features. Yeah I get you, I haven't been using it for long, 3 weeks or so. And until one of the accounts go down and the others not it's not 100% confirmation that there is no link, but I haven't seen any application that uses ebay tokens link account because they all seem to come from the same application account. They all interact with ebay through those tokens of permission so nothing else is passed back and forth. As for other types of links, pictures hosting, templates etc it's a matter of looking at how the process works and if there is any way of linking, and I haven't seen any. |
| solefoodbk | 11-17-2014 07:24 PM | Re: inkfrog open and its multiple stealth + messaging features. Quote:
Originally Posted by trosky
(Post 609522)
Yeah I get you, I haven't been using it for long, 3 weeks or so. And until one of the accounts go down and the others not it's not 100% confirmation that there is no link, but I haven't seen any application that uses ebay tokens link account because they all seem to come from the same application account. They all interact with ebay through those tokens of permission so nothing else is passed back and forth. As for other types of links, pictures hosting, templates etc it's a matter of looking at how the process works and if there is any way of linking, and I haven't seen any. | Ok. 3 weeks kinda puts it into perspective. Thats still VERY early to make any finite statements on if it works or doesn't.
Thank you for the information! Any future updates are appreciated :) |
| evicktd | 11-28-2014 05:27 AM | Re: inkfrog open and its multiple stealth + messaging features. I'm going to jump in head first and use inkfrog open with 2 accounts. Will keep this thread updated when applicable |
| imboxsy | 12-18-2014 06:16 AM | Re: inkfrog open and its multiple stealth + messaging features. So if i'm reading this correctly, inkfrog allows me to respond to all the customer messages through that?
For example, if i had 10 accounts and 5 accounts had customers who sent questions about an order, product etc, they would all be in one portal and i could respond to them all right there in that portal? |
Re: inkfrog open and its multiple stealth + messaging features. Quote:
Originally Posted by GoteBay
(Post 593917)
Inkfrog sends out email reminders to buyers using username@inkfrog.com.
Based on what I have seen, when that email is sent to buyers, the only thing that links it to eBay are the other items sold by the same seller.
When a buyer hits reply, that email is only sent to inkfrog. | That's an excellent message to clarify |
| trosky | 12-18-2014 09:27 AM | Re: inkfrog open and its multiple stealth + messaging features. Quote:
Originally Posted by imboxsy
(Post 621354)
So if i'm reading this correctly, inkfrog allows me to respond to all the customer messages through that?
For example, if i had 10 accounts and 5 accounts had customers who sent questions about an order, product etc, they would all be in one portal and i could respond to them all right there in that portal? |
That's Correct! |
| Radfele | 02-11-2015 09:44 AM | Re: inkfrog open and its multiple stealth + messaging features. any updates on this? |
| Sausage | 02-21-2015 08:59 PM | Re: inkfrog open and its multiple stealth + messaging features. I have been reading what I can about inkfrog open this would be very useful for messages when I am away.
Does anyone know if the message you answer goes direct to the buyers ebay account, or email account? |
| trosky | 02-21-2015 09:00 PM | Re: inkfrog open and its multiple stealth + messaging features. Quote:
Originally Posted by Sausage
(Post 644535)
I have been reading what I can about inkfrog open this would be very useful for messages when I am away.
Does anyone know if the message you answer goes direct to the buyers ebay account, or email account? |
Directly to eBay messages like if you were to reply from eBay |
| Brainbuster | 02-22-2015 01:56 AM | Re: inkfrog open and its multiple stealth + messaging features. Quote:
Originally Posted by trosky
(Post 621440)
That's Correct! | I can't imagine how this is possible...I must not be understanding this right.
What I'm doing now:
Telling my email acct #1 associated with ebay acct #1 to forward all messages to Master Email Acct.
" " email acct #2 assoc w/ " " #2 to forward all mssgs to Master Email Acct.
I can read all my messages from all Ebay Accts. But I can't reply, because I'd need to change the ip address and be logged into Ebay and logged into that User Acct and send the message from there.
How can inkfrog.open send a message and make it look as if it's come from my Ebay acct and from that ip address? |
| trosky | 02-22-2015 02:07 AM | Re: inkfrog open and its multiple stealth + messaging features. You can reply to the ebay message right from your email and it will be through ebay messages, inkfrog uses the same thing.
What you're doing is unnecessary |
| Brainbuster | 02-22-2015 09:57 PM | Re: inkfrog open and its multiple stealth + messaging features. You mean I can hit Reply from my Master Email (to which all email account forward ebay's messages).
And it replies from the respective source email, and also doesn't show my ip address when I hit Reply? |
| trosky | 02-22-2015 10:02 PM | Re: inkfrog open and its multiple stealth + messaging features. Quote:
Originally Posted by Brainbuster
(Post 644747)
You mean I can hit Reply from my Master Email (to which all email account forward ebay's messages).
And it replies from the respective source email, and also doesn't show my ip address when I hit Reply? |
No, from each individual email account. No need to forward all the accounts, use thunderbird client or a cell phone to receive all individual accounts in the same place and reply to each one from its one email. EBay doesn't have access to your email so they don't see the IP from the emails
Just disable pictures on each account to prevent tracking through them. |
| Sausage | 02-22-2015 10:10 PM | Re: inkfrog open and its multiple stealth + messaging features. So, I have all my gmail accounts come to an iPad. I can hit the 'reply' on the email client, not the reply button from ebay actually in the email? |
| trosky | 02-22-2015 10:11 PM | Re: inkfrog open and its multiple stealth + messaging features. Quote:
Originally Posted by Sausage
(Post 644751)
So, I have all my gmail accounts come to an iPad. I can hit the 'reply' on the email client, not the reply button from ebay actually in the email? |
That's right |
| Brainbuster | 02-22-2015 10:16 PM | Re: inkfrog open and its multiple stealth + messaging features. I had no idea I could do this!
I've been changing my ip address, exiting all programs, changing user accounts, logging into the ebay account.....just to reply, "Thanks very much!" to a buyer. |
| trosky | 02-22-2015 10:17 PM | Re: inkfrog open and its multiple stealth + messaging features. Wow that's a lot of work for just that. You'll be saving a lot of time now |
| nawaho | 02-24-2015 03:50 PM | Re: inkfrog open and its multiple stealth + messaging features. Hi all, I read the topic.
Now the service is safe to administer multiple accounts. In summary? |
| nawaho | 02-24-2015 03:59 PM | Re: inkfrog open and its multiple stealth + messaging features. |
| Brainbuster | 02-25-2015 06:39 PM | Re: inkfrog open and its multiple stealth + messaging features. Does NOT work.
I replied from my master email, and here's the message I got:
"Hi ______,
Oops. We weren't able to send your message to __buyer___, because the email address you used to send this message, (master)@gmail.com, isn't linked to your eBay account.
To keep eBay safe, we need you to send messages from a registered eBay email address. This will prevent your messages from being blocked in the future..." |
| trosky | 02-25-2015 08:42 PM | Re: inkfrog open and its multiple stealth + messaging features. Quote:
Originally Posted by Brainbuster
(Post 645571)
Does NOT work.
I replied from my master email, and here's the message I got:
"Hi ______,
Oops. We weren't able to send your message to __buyer___, because the email address you used to send this message, (master)@gmail.com, isn't linked to your eBay account.
To keep eBay safe, we need you to send messages from a registered eBay email address. This will prevent your messages from being blocked in the future..." |
I told you NOT to use your master account. You need to reply from each account which is associated with that ebay account. Kind of common sense. |
| SilentHill | 02-25-2015 08:53 PM | Re: inkfrog open and its multiple stealth + messaging features. beware of inkfrog open. It is a new site completely competitor to the classic inkfrog. Not completely tested or confirmed to not link.
I just stick to the classic inkfrog. |
| trosky | 02-25-2015 08:56 PM | Re: inkfrog open and its multiple stealth + messaging features. I've been using it and reporting no issues for 3 months now and people keep saying the same thing. I guess to each it's own, I'll continue using it and saving lots of time |
| SilentHill | 02-25-2015 08:57 PM | Re: inkfrog open and its multiple stealth + messaging features. but when it comes to reply to customers I use my iphone with loading images OFF. Incase of little web beacons tracking on these photos.
just simply reply from the email. (NOT EBAY REPLY BUTTON) theres a difference. the ebay reply is a link that send you to the website. | | All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:32 PM. | |
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