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Is this eBay's trap to make you pay owed fees?
 

Okay Guys, This month i decided to just put on my stealth helmet and create accounts because i knew the account i was using was going downhill fast. I went from powerseller in one month to it dont get deeper than the shade of red they they gave me on my seller performance tab with open cases and negative feedback being handed left right and centre. Now just to add absolutley none was my fault, just those typical scammers and dubious buyers. Due to the way it was going, i swore i was never gonna pay my seller fees that was accumulating at £3.5k.

Now this had been coming over a 3 month period and i went from having a 600 item/£600,000 selling facility to 10 items/£15,000...That was to show you how bad they viewed me, so as everyone knows, recovering from that is just totally impossible. Above all, every single negative feedback i appealed against with the defects was not granted.

So 5 days ago they suspended me for not paying my ebay seller fees which i expected but all of a sudden this evening i got this message

"Great job! You've recently improved your seller performance on eBay in the US programme. You’re no longer Below Standard"..and an offer of becoming a POWERSELLER again!

So i dont know if anybody has experienced this but surely it must be for me to pay them that cake?? and lead me into a false sense of security, once i pay, they suspend me from selling.I smell a trap! (at least account is on stealth anyway!)

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re: Is this eBay's trap to make you pay owed fees?
 

Do you owe them fees?

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My opinion is that i smell a trap. This scenario was mentioned not long ago on the forum by another member.
Obviously it might not be a trap but i had an account years ago that suspended me till i resolved issues on another account. Issues were resolved and did NOT get reinstated.

Good move to start making more accounts.

And unfortunately you will have to make arrangements to pay your fees whatever the outcomeso probably makes sense to pay your fees and call their bluff so to speak. Then if it goes pearshaped, your fees are clear, then u can keep moving forward with your other accounts :-)

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3.5 K i believe unless im reading wrong :-)

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Where did you get my high school photo?

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If you go to a car wash and they wash your car, you got to pay them or go to jail it does not matter whether they are willing to wash you car again in the future!

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Off your machine that I hacked...LMAO
:typing:

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New password!!!

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Yeah you read right

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The fact is, you listed on the ebay platform.. and whether or not you believe your DSR ratings and negatives are not justified, you STILL have to pay your ebay fee's.

DSR ratings are easy to fix, even if it does take time and if you have an account with limits like yours, it is worth fixing.

They may make you a powerseller again but it does not mean your selling limits have changed.

If your ebay fee's are infact £3500 you must sell a LOT of items per month which means there must be a lot of defects on your account which made you go below standard, so i would assume that IS your fault and you need to find out or figure out what you are doing that is making your account get this way or you will just end up getting there again.

Look closely at your business model!

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Your story on here is a prime example of how crazy Ebay suddenly became, doing so much business, and they think nothing of suspending you!! They are getting into such dire straits that they are more than likely going to get taken over before too much longer anyway, as has previously been said, either by Google, Amazon, or Alibaba! Which of those three would be allowed to take eBay on time will tell, anything UK based would run up against the monopolies commission of course as having too much power and influence in one area, maybe that would be a similar scenario for US bases companies as well!

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Who do you think could buy ebay? Even apple could not afford ebay it would be over 50% of apples biz. Nobody can buy ebay

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Sorry more like 20% of apple

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@Bunneh...I totally disagree with you. I always been religously good with my real accounts and stealth one. My business model has been Tight and i have always gotten increases substantially monthly. I became a powerseller on a stealth one in like 2.5 months

DSR's are not too easy to fix cause its like a quagmire,. As the previous poster says, its the unpredictablility of ebay

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Classic left hand of ebay not having a clue what the right hand of ebay is doing.

Yes, this has been reported before & on ebay UK. Not had reported recently. Used to happen a few years ago.

What a mess for you.
:shhh:

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Off the FBI wanted list

Did not think you graduated from high skool.
:attention:

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Letting an account hit BELOW STANDARD is your fault.

Negative ratings and low DSR are not given without reason.

You ship fast, Free shipping ( or low shipping) Describe absolutely EVERYTHING about your items.. and post ASAP and you can avoid most of your problems.

DON'T DROP SHIP... it is the cause of most problems.

But as i said the ratio of your DSR with the amount of fee's you have to pay says you have A LOT of low dsr and negatives so yes you let your account get this bad and now blame ebay.
When it could have been fixed sooner.

You will see, if you choose not to take blame for your mistakes then your new account will have the same problems and you will be back here with the same situation.

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@Bunneh

YOU CAN LIST AN ITEM AS FOR PARTS AND NOT WORKING WITH A MILLION PICTURES AND STILL GET A MORON OPEN UP A CASE THAT IS NOT DESCRIBED AND NEGATIVE FEEDBACK!!

So how would that be my fault???????????????????!!!!!!

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That might happen once might happen twice but not enough to be below standard unless someone is spending money and stealth bombing you

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It is your fault in other words unless the above is happening.

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Shouting at a user trying to give insight does not help either.

:boink:

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http://www.google.com/search?q=gotch...ow%3B500%3B512

Sounds like an evil trick

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Once or twice yes that can happen.

Time and time again? Seems like something is off with your business plan.

If you owe eBay fees. Pay them.

On a side note. It is possible to be below standard for the UK and above standard for the US. It will depend on your ratings for sales to that country.

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I agree, even if it is a trap pay your fees. If everyone screws ebay for the fees they owe after a while all they will do is up the percent for each charge to make up for it...then we all have to pay

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Just to add though, in my trade we have a lot of items that might be for parts and not working alongside fully tested units

A lot of people want to take the gamble first and see how it pans out and when it dont work for them, say it wasnt as described

any excuse to get money back

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That never works dude never. People sell the boxes for an ps4 on ebay for the price of a ps4 because the people dont read the ad.

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Yeah, I think selling for parts is gonna spell doom eventually. The sad thing is that idiot buyers come in waves. They dont really spread out. So when they see iPhone but thats as far as they read, not the part that says for parts, non-working (iPhone was just an example). Then you have the scammers on top of the idiots. Plus 1 Negative spreads like a virus. People see your negative and sometimes look for issues with their item as well.

As far as fees go, you should always pay your fees. Having said that if you think paying those fees will get the account back, I think they are just baiting you. BUT on another hand, I have a lot of stealths that get emails every couple months saying they have increase X-amount of dsr's to 5. Bragging how they protected my account that their stupid rules soiled in the first place.

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You have two problems when it comes to your account as i can tell ..

Communication : Most of the time buyers contact you BEFORE opening a case to explain there problem and if you are unreasonable , don't reply or WRITE IN CAPS they will retaliate with opening cases.
You can always try your best to make sure you avoid a case by explaining decently and sympathetic even if you know you are not in the wrong, because most buyers do not read the listings.
You could always compromise with partial refunds etc.. to avoid bad feedback and cases.

Description : You need to make sure your listing says absolutely everything LOUD AND CLEAR. Write in huge big red writing if you have to, but you cannot just choose ' for parts not working' from the listing menu and expect that to be enough.
As i am sure if you did both of these things and said absolutely everything wrong with it, ebay would side in your favour.


You need to remember not everyone is out to get you, so there is no need to attack me when i am trying to help you, as you are obviously leaving information out somewhere.

No account gets this bad without good reason. :attention:

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LOL...Its funny how despite we have all been screwed by ebay and paypal in more ways than one...we still have the heart to fully respect and pay our seller fees.

Yet ebay dosent give a s£*t!!!

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Brunneh come on!

Buyers open up cases without consulting or sending an email like wildfire

Forum am i wrong on this? Just like how buyers click buy it now without asking anything

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You know who your getting into bed with before you start selling on ebay

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Yes your wrong on that. Once in awhile it happens but never enough to screw up standards

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80% of the time I will get a message before a case is opened.

I make sure that I sent all my buyers a message asking them to contact me if they have any issues with their items. This helps cut down the number of cases massively.

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I guess some expert here dont understand eBay.
Fee dont determine how much you are making. EBay is very
Unpredictable. Those fees come from listing fees
Final value fees, return fees. Shipping fees. Also if
You don't pay your monthly fee on the first or 17. Two
Weeks later your account get suspended. For no paying your
Fees. Which mean you will have to pay everything up to that point

Part or used items is very difficult on eBay almost impossible
Yo make any money.

I believe this a trap. Unless you have huge profit margins
I would not bother. I would just go stealth

Go luck

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it a trap...run away (then make more accounts when you get back obviously lol)

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Sounds a trap, they probably make a bit of effort to get 3.5k back

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well if you registered your stealth account to someone else's address and racked up a 3.5k bill i say you pay it. for all you know when they send the debt collector letter to that address it could give the person a heart attack lol.

i see it as this, I hate EBay therefore as long as the bill is under £200 i lose no sleep dumping the account.

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This post is from almost a year ago.
Besides updates by the buyer, no reason to keep this discussion alive

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pay your fees or not , doesn't make a difference to me