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Great question.
I have the same comcerns..

PayPal Question
 

In order to have an ebay account it must be verified with PayPal. They put a deposit in your account to make sure your bank is real. Then FROM THAT POINT ON you pay with Gift Cards? Arent you already LINKED from the start?

IM confused.

Secondly....PAYMENTS. I have a PAYPAL Debit and I instantly get my money...When you collect payments from ebay with PAYPAL arent you linked there too? How do you get paid without being LINKED to your PayPal account?

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Please read the very first post in this thread.
I gave 2 different versions of what could happen and has happened.

I'm guessing this is bad?...my ebay fee's are debited out of my checking account.

If I change that and start paying with a prepaid card could they still access my checking acct in the future since it was once linked? Or, do I need to start from scratch with new ebay & paypal accts?

ok you have seen potential problems eg, no control over how much gets debited, plus with a stealth account, a real name can be revealed on the credit. You can continue with your method, as long as you are aware of these risks, however changing method to a prepaid vcc is advised by forum, if you cancel the bank dd mandate and switch your payment method under paypal options, there should be no problems for you....

Ok, so I understand that you should pay your fees with a CC rather than Paypal, and this should be done before the direct debit date; BUT, when asked how you are going to pay these fees (upon setting up your seller account) is it ok to choose Paypal as the method? I did this recently and am now a little worried.

Can anyone with experience please ease my mind? Thanks in advance.

Here We Go Again

I take it by your post that delux gift cards can't be topped up, or you would have just continued paying with that, but do they have an end date, as with normal cards?

Also your other point on the second page where you are unable to get your funds out fast enough through your bank.

Anyone know what is the most you can pay out on a purchase through paypal? Sorry I have never checked.

Just wondered how fast you could get your money out purchasing your own items off your own alternative auction site accounts?
Just may give you another option to get your fees out faster?

Sorry if that has been mentioned, I'm still on page 2

I have the same concerns, I have read the 3 pages of posting and I understand the Idea behind it, but I am not sure how Ebay will not lin your paypal account when you are force to provide that information when you are setting up Ebay sellers account.
You use you paypal account to collect payments from your sales right?

I think you are struggling with it, because rationally it should not make sense but this is ebay and paypal you are talking about, they tend not to make that much sense at the best of times.

well this blows...i looked into everything when i started al my 8 stealth accounts..i just didn't look into this. lol . damn i just paid a 80 fee with paypal...my question is WHY do they take so much money from us for just listing and selling our stuff..not fair! ofcourse i know why though...they get money duh..but still i wish there was a site with traffic that didn't have any type of stupid fees.

There are loads but you just have to be prepared to take a cut in income and work your socks off for what you do get.

But I still think everyone should be listing on at least one of the alternatives or their own site, as every sale off ebay is money picked from ebays pocket and more power to the seller.

Why AOL dialup
 

I just purchased the stealth book and have been studying diligently. I figured I had better do some homework on the forum as well before taking the final leap of opening an ebay/paypal account.
I understand the reasoning for paying ebay fees with a gift card.
My question is....
Do you always connect with AOL dial up, or do you only use the dial up when you make your payment? I don't have dial up...

This is a really good discussion hope it comes back to life again
Since last written , there have been new rules i think? As I open new ebay account it 'forced' me to either link paypal or bank account before I can sell. So ebay and paypal is linked from then. Is there any point to pay by prepaid card anymore ???

Yes you HAVE to link a VALID & CLEAN Paypal account to your eBay account in order to sell.
But do your payments from your sales HAVE to go to the same Paypal account that you linked to the eBay account????????
NO they do not.

NEVER pay your eBay fees from your working Paypal account that accepts funds from your sales.

Ok, so I take it the gift CC's still work. Does anyone have any suggestions for gift CC's I can get in Toronto, Canada that work with paying eBay fee's.

Thanks

Exactly GB, for every noose eGay/PP give us, there is a loophole.

You can pay w/ VCC in any country.

Here We Go Again - I see that you guys recommend paying fees with some sort of a gift card. I found a gift card that goes up to $500 now why cant i keep refilling this gift card and paying my fees with it? Why do i have to keep getting a new card to pay the fees? Whats wrong with using the same card to pay fees? of course i will be only using this card for 1 account.

Yes you HAVE to link a VALID & CLEAN Paypal account to your eBay account in order to
 

OK HWGA I think I get it now.

Add a re-loadable gift card to your ebay account.

Pay fees with that card

Modify your account to Let payments from your sales go onto that card also!

Ebay never touches or sees your paypal account?

I'm about to pay my first months sales fees with a walmart re-loadable card for the first time and read through this entire post to make sure I get it right.

Im still a little confused...am I making this hard?

What about if you always keep enough funds in your paypal account to pay your ebay fees, would this be ok to then pay the fees with paypal as they are not having to access your bank account to get the fees they are just taking payment from your paypal balance?

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Let me know how that works out for you in the end....

HWGA = Im having issues or missing the point. I bought a walmart card. But when I signed up over the phone it asked me for all my information, in which I am suspended on ebay with
i.e. name, address, social. Since this is a bank I thought I should tell the truth?

BUT when I go to pay my fee on ebay it makes me put in the address and info the credit card (walmart card) that I am using?????

Which will link me....I dont want to PUT ANY information on my stealth from my old account.

WHAT AM I NOT GETTING, im trying to follow your advice. I have to pay my fees by tomorrow!

Was I supposed to put my stealth info on the walmart card? i.e.. lie to the bank? (even though it is over the phone.........but then how would I get the card in the mail???

CONFUSED and running out of time....this is my first time making a payment to ebay period for this account....

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You have to use the basic non-reloadable anonymous visa/mastercard gift card.
One where you can add the info to the card online.
I get mine at Wal-greens.

The gift card website:
Awards2Go - Visa Gift Card, Corporate Incentive and Award Cards and Gift2Go Personal Gift Cards

it will probably work out fine....

tons of exec members here pay their fees with balance, I talk to alot of them, or with combination of different methods.

Uploading from bank or real card can show the real name on credit, so is best avoided but paying from balance is ok and so is vcc thats ok also, no need to get frightened by this thread newbies, as I can see some of you are spiralling in to confusion,

stealth methods try and give you that extra layer of precaution, but if card doesnt suit you for whatever organisational reason, there is no need to do it that way, I have so many accounts, that i have tried all the methods and in fact like to differentiate them by not having a set mode, one way Ive done it is, if you have a vcc on file with paypal that has a long expiry, pay with that but as a one time payment. Another way is to keep your vcc on file always topped up, so fees come from there automatically, or pay from or add a short term (2 month visa voucher eg 3v), on the other hand I have accounts that I pay from balance and they are fine for years no issues, why would there be, much worse dangers on paypal than that.

If you use a real bank and don't keep much money in paypal then you would be better off paying with a gift card but if you use a prepaid card with no nsf fees and always keep plenty of funds in paypal to cover fees then you should be fine paying with paypal.

good point ^^^ if you keep a big balance, you should be good for the occasional chargeback and fees and some left over....

what stealthers may worry about is if you are say hit for NARU, all your fees are due but your auctions require refunds, and you wouldnt want there to be not enough in prepaid card or balance attached so as to get a bank dip if you are not quick enough off the mark.

Interesting fact, once on one of my europe accounts where paypal is verified by a type of vba (issued by my europe bank) when there is not enough in paypal balance or vcc, fees were due and I did not look at account in weeks and forgot to load, they try to dip from bank (even though they have had no explicit permission to) - it fails, but they dont know why, automated harmless message states cant list until settle fees and automated method lapses until I set it up again. I did one time payment and set up automated method again, and its been ok since. So proof they do resort to this for fees...

This has been mentioned many times on the forum where people have had their eBay fees set up to automatically pay with PayPal and thought that by keeping enough balance in PayPal funds in the account they'd be safe. PayPal is unpredictable and despite there being enough PayPal balance they have still drawn on an echeck. As soon as that happens on a stealth account it's just a few days for the axe to fall.

This is what HWGA was referring to when he said "Let me know how that works for you IN THE END..." It might not happen every time you use PayPal to pay fees if you have enough available balance, but you have that stealth account at constant risk for as long as they can draw an echeck. Perhaps they just do it from time to time to make sure the bank is still valid, perhaps there's no logic behind it, but we know that simply having enough available balance is not a guarantee that they will always charge this as their first line.

This is why HWGA always recommends in the first post of this thread not to use PayPal to pay your eBay fees. It works for a reason.

in my experience a bank NOT being valid is not an axe situation, you just get a message asking for fees to be paid, and you pay them by card at that point (they do not know what banking error has caused it) In fact a bank being valid is far more dangerous in some instances, as actual money can get taken

Hi

Where can i buy the gift2go CC??? How much are they?

Karen

You can get them online at Awards2Go - Visa Gift Card, Corporate Incentive and Award Cards and Gift2Go Personal Gift Cards
OR
You can get them at your local Wal-Greens, that is where I get mine.

Hi, I have just resolved a limitation on my paypal account and ebay account (both stealth) which I was very pleased about.. they are both in my friends name which he is fine with.. I linked my own bank account to his stealth account..

I have just gone to refund a buyer for an item he returned but instead of paypal taking the money from the balance in paypal they have taken it from the bank account (which is in my name not my friends).. this seems strange to me as it has never happened before, I had over £1000 in my paypal account and the refund was only £15..

Will paypal be able to see the name on the bank account when they take the money for this refund and will this cause me problems (my own paypal account was limited a few months back)??

Should I delete the bank account that they have requested the money from?

there is no way that paypal would take from bank when there is balance available. £1000
cannot be available, otherwise they would take the £15 from it, end of story..

cancel direct debit mandate.

They did try and take from the bank and I DID have over £1000 in the balance, the problem was that the balance was in sterling and the refund was in Euros and I had no Euro balance..

So if selling to overseas buyers you need to keep a balance in their foreign currency in case of refunds.

yes correct, the money for fees and refunds, only comes out of the specific currency needed,

Sorry but i don't really get this, you mean if you have attach your real bank account with paypal( of course i use stealth info when registered with paypal)
then when you don't have enough funds to cover the fees, ebay will withdraw from the bank you attach with paypal and they can get your real name?
is that true? i always thought there no way they can get my real info for just withdrawing money from my bank, please advise

I also have other question, i think lots of people confused
I have a same gift card which i use to verify both ebay and paypal ( usually if i have fund in my paypal,i bought other stuff and sell it outside)
In this case, can i just pay ebay by one time payment by paypal( not link it)
i don't think ebay will get your info as you didn't link it right, or even they do, the credit info and other detail are just the same as i use same stealth info to registered on both ebay and paypal

Can any one advised me is it safe if i pay ebay fees via paypal in the situation above?

correct, look at any credit from someone to your bank statement, you usually see their name or company right? Well Ive never seen paypals statement but in theory it could be the same. You could change it, which it is possible to do with some banks.

Yes you can pay the one time payment with that same card or another one (as long as not linked to any other account) Gift cards wont show name, either because they dont have one, or because they are the type where you put any name you like.


oh yes james185, the currency thing, you pmd me, hope it worked out for you....

Yes i know paying by card will not a problem but what i confused is that can i use paypal balance to pay ebay fees if the card info in paypal account same as card info in my ebay

meanhh - i dont see why that would be a problem

i totally agree with the op in this thread although sometimes i do use paypal but i never use paypal for automated payments ever

about echeques coming out of your bank, drawn by paypal - I actually checked on this recently. I dont know if the bank guy was correct or not but he said that paypal just get your paypal reference and NOT your name but then he said they may get the name you put on your dd mandate, so unsure which it is......