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Hey, I'm just wondering if anyone here uses sites like Tradekey.com and Alibaba.com to source their wholesale suppliers? I'm not asking for any specifics just wondering how many of you use these kind of sites. I know they have alot of companies selling ⊗⊗⊗⊗ and Vero items. BUT ...hell, supposedly damn near 70 percent of designer merchandise on Ebay is counterfeit anyways so why not be the one making money off of it right? Plus with all of these secrets on how to open multiple accounts you'd pretty much stupid not to, with the profit margins you can achieve. For my personal account(my real name) I'd like to steer clear of Vero items for the most part and start off slow with thrift items and miscellaneous stuff from around the house and bargains at flea markets. I don't really have a line of credit i can use, or the funds necessary to purchase truckloads or pallets of liquidated product right now. And I have purchased a shipment of Jordan's from a Goldkey supplier before so I know it works. I'm just wondering how many of you use tradekey or alibaba from time to time? Plus any other similar sites you use would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks

Not worth it to sell ⊗⊗⊗⊗ products. It's first of all illegal and gets you into to much trouble. I suggest you to sell real products.

many people have complained of Alibaba in the past about not receiving their items so i defenitely would recommend that. Im not so sure about trade Key but that site looks wayyy too shaky to me

I've used Tradekey.com to find Jordan Shoes for a very low pricefrom a goldkey member and they were good quality, I'm just wondering if alot of other people on here use Tradekey.com to find items to sell? Any ideas on categories that are good for starting on?

?typo? Should that read 'not recommend that'

tbh, that's like asking How long is a piece of string? You have to know your
own business plan and work out your own category to sell.

yes sorry BIG TYPO lol

Basically if you want to make a quick buck then by all means sell the ⊗⊗⊗⊗ and get into trouble but if you want to make your business last and make your name be known then go the legit way by selling authentic goods.

Get into what kind of trouble? I mean we are all here learning how to do something that in itself is against Ebay's policies anyways. I mean if they shut you down for VERO isn't the whole point of this forum being able to come back at will with accounts you've got on reserve. Do you think they would eventually take legal action in trying to find you? I thought the whole point is your hidden behind your your bank or merchant account and your Limited Liability Corporation and DBA and all that.
By the way are Gaming Consoles considered VERO?
I don't think they are because I've never heard of a counterfeit PS3 or XBOX, but not sure.

Thank for the responses

If we were suspended from ebay and get back on there and sell LEGITIMATE items then I dont think that is wrong in any way. Ebay gets their money and we get ours.

If you get on ebay continuously to sell ⊗⊗⊗⊗ items then you can have legal action taken against you. I'm sure there are ways to find a person and I'm sure that big companies can use those ways to get to you.

No I wouldnt consider game consoles VERO. But if you do sell high end electronics then I suggest you take good pictures along with your ebay username in the picture being taken.

I plan to sell a mixture of things some accounts will be strictly authentic powersellers some will be for me to get a quick bang and shut it down. Could even use a different merchant account with an assumed address for your VERO items just in case they come after you(which I doubt). I mean if your not using Paypal and your customers are happy they're probably not gonna ever freeze your funds anyways right? I'm just gonna study Modee. Modee said screw feebay and I'm gonna do it in the most profitable way possible. Modee has developed a way to not pay ebay anything at all and has accounts for over a year no suspensions. I don't see them messing with him yet. LOL

If you want to get specific details on how he does it then I recommend contacting the man and getting help from him.

He's an excellent source of help in these matters and more.

You make a good point in saying that a large company could pursue you. But I do not plan on ticking anyone off that bad (per account- just stuff here and there). Just keep your accounts from being linked I'd think you'd be alright. Plus I wouldn't sell anything that is blatantly ⊗⊗⊗⊗ looking(or operating) or that will get me bad feedback. There is plenty of OEM merchandise from factories that operate and look exactly the same as the originals but are just not considered "original" company merchandise(which makes it 10 times cheaper for some reason ).
I would agree that you should keep your authentic accounts in good standing and I would keep them seperate from my high risk accounts.
Thanks for the responses.

i heard they are scammers, you pay, they take your money and run

I'm sure there are SOME scammers on tradekey just like there are even scammers on Ebay but I'm telling you I have purchased from Gold Members 3 times before all over 500 dollar orders and they went through fine. So there ARE good sell leads on there. Just don't be foolish with your money. 9 times out of 10 if they are a Goldkey member with over 4000 trustpoints and they offer a sample order they are not going to scam you. I don't mess with silverkey members or free members ever(because there are alot of scammers out there). I was just wondering if there are people on here who sell merchandise on Ebay that they got from suppliers on Tradekey.com or other B2B marketplaces like it.
Thank You

If you're looking for branded merchanside on Alibaba/Tradekey/Globla sources, as most people on here seem to do - you're going to get scammed. Either you'll received counterfiets, and nothing. There is no inbetween.

If your going to sell some ⊗⊗⊗⊗ then why do you even bother keeping them on hand?
Why don't you just dropship the ⊗⊗⊗⊗ stuff?

If you want to sell authentic products in your own online store without having any inventory then checkout my signature and go read that first post.

There are a number of reasons people have the products sent to them first if theyre Vero.

1) It comes from USA, not China
2) It may need slight alterations to look better
3) Not many have a 1 MOQ
4) If they do the price is high compared to 20-50 Qty

One would only assume

1 widget = $25
10 widgets = $22
50 widgets = $18
100 widgets = $12
1000 widgets = $8

You folks can do the math and see why it is good to have the items on hand.
From what I hear.

Not very true. I've purchase from those places before and had a 100% success rate. It's the hard-headed individuals that try to buy Jordans for $15 a pair that end up on that road. There are plenty of good companies on both, you just need to do your research first or you can end up with the short end of the stick.

-HeG

There are also more secure sites for that type of business

You're always going to make more profit if you have the item in hand, (especially if you buy in bulk) then if you were to dropship as john suggests. I'm pretty sure there are good connects on all three sites mentioned, you just have to find the right ones. Orion, What other sites would you recommend?

Its a gamble really. I know I talked to a few suppliers on Tradekey. After they tried to convince me that the merchendise was legit, I asked them so many questions that they eventually just broke down and said the items were ⊗⊗⊗⊗. I thought it was pretty funny. They even sent me photos that were not theirs. Some of the photos I pulled up myself on google images. SMH. All the photos had different backgrounds and some of them werent even the same product, pretty sad!

Asian people trade pictures with eachother constantly. None of them seem to use their own images. They just copy from other people. You can often see some other companies name embedded in the images.

I would only sell the sites I use as theyre a *honey-pot* so to speak.

What she said^^^

I've had success buying on both sites with no issues. But you MUST research the company before you buy.

I still say selling original products is the way to go. If you don't have a supplier for original products then I suggest get wholesale closeouts to sell. Just google your city and whoesale closeout lots and you'll find plenty of stuff for you to sell.

a bunch of smart asses
 

he just asked for help. if you don't know anything about tradekey or alibaba
just shut up and don't tell him what to sell and what not to sell.

Yes, I had bad experiences with drop shippers. It seemed as if all the items I drop shipped from this person were defective. He knew that I couldnt see what he was sending so I think he was sending the items that were returned to him or just defective items to get over. All of the items that were sent to me first from him were fine, buyers had no problems. So be careful with drop shipping. So now I always have the items send to me first, I inspect. Also the buyer appreciate the fast shipping rather than waiting 5-7 days for dropshipping.

drop shipping and counterfeits
 

The problem with drop shipping is that you cannot know that you are selling authentic merchandise because you don't get to see it. Selling counterfeits is ILLEGAL. Back when I first started selling designer jeans on eBay I must have sold a pair of counterfeit. Anyway, about a year ago I was served by the designer and to make a long story short - it ended up costing me about $10,000.00 for a $100.00 pair of jeans. I also have an eBay(past tense) friend who had to declare bankruptcy because of a lawsuit from Antik. The judgment was $40,000.00 for a few pairs of jeans. What I am saying is that selling counterfeits has bigger risks than just getting kicked off eBay and the designers are starting to come after the little guy in these big "class action" type lawsuits. I am very, very careful not to sell anything that isn't genuine. Even then, eBay has pulled some of my listings for authenticity issues when I KNOW,KNOW, KNOW that what I was selling is real. Once they pull your listing, it is over. They have no interest in any proof that you can provide that you are not selling ⊗⊗⊗⊗. It was a suspension for allegedly selling ⊗⊗⊗⊗ that got me kicked off eBay the first time and led me here. I wasn't selling ⊗⊗⊗⊗ and after several long useless conversations with eBay I realized that I was wasting my time. They knew that they were wrong but they didn't care. Now, I have about 20 eBay accounts and 6 are active right now. Sure, I have gotten some suspended since I went Stealth, but each time I learn something. I want my own website - if I can ever pin down what I want to sell and find some good suppliers. I know how to sell online.