| | | bluestraps | 06-10-2015 01:28 PM | A senator from Maryland bought from me on my stealth acount should I be worried A senator from shes a state senator from Maryland , she bought a item from me that Ive been selling and is not ON VERO and I have not had a issue in over 100 transactions. It may just be coincidence, I already have sent a message to her , I suspicious as hell |
Re: A senator from Maryland bought from me on my stealth acount should I be worried Why would you be suspicious of the Governor? Are they not allowed to buy on Ebay? I have had famous people buy from me before....Nothing to worry about. |
| dealagreeproceed | 06-10-2015 01:32 PM | Re: A senator from Maryland bought from me on my stealth acount should I be worried :doh: yup never trust a politician!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| Emanresu | 06-10-2015 01:34 PM | Re: A senator from Maryland bought from me on my stealth acount should I be worried What is really scary is when you have a shipping address to a police or sheriff's department.
Just ship it and don't worry. |
| bluestraps | 06-10-2015 01:57 PM | Re: A senator from Maryland bought from me on my stealth acount should I be worried I am selling something among other items that can be considered by some as copy or duplicate or home made. But Not on VERO List and have had 2 buyers tell ebay/papal item not as described . So far no problams
I guess I thought about it .
Logic
State senator, FBI is Federal
Of all the millions of ebay sellers whay would I get picked out.
Someone would have to be in the know that my item is somehow illegal
Address is to a apartment residence,
not a government adresss.
She is using a yahoo email not .gov
Wouldn't ebay first be after me for some violation |
Re: A senator from Maryland bought from me on my stealth acount should I be worried Seriously......relax. take a chill pill. |
| revenge | 06-10-2015 02:18 PM | Re: A senator from Maryland bought from me on my stealth acount should I be worried I encounter more celebrities customers on Amazon then ebay. I got use to it. Just use signature confirmation as a trophy, lol. Then frame it. |
| jeffweico | 06-10-2015 02:30 PM | Re: A senator from Maryland bought from me on my stealth acount should I be worried Well, my feelings on this are mixed. I have also sold to celebrities, politicians, movie studios and law enforcement agencies without any problems. But my items were in no way questionable.
The OP stated that his items were not VERO, but then says that they may be considered "duplicates" by some people. This COULD be a problem.
If the item you are selling is counterfeit, I would be VERY HESITANT to ship it. I doubt that you are being targeted by a state Senator, but if they receive something that they believe is a counterfeit, you could have a problem. This person will know exactly WHERE to complain about it and since they are a politician, it probably WILL be investigated.
If it were ME, I would send an unquestionable original and lose money on the sale. |
| ytowngirl126 | 06-10-2015 02:35 PM | Re: A senator from Maryland bought from me on my stealth acount should I be worried Sounds like your selling knock offs and your worried that you'll get caught since they can turn you into higher authorities. |
| jeffweico | 06-10-2015 02:45 PM | Re: A senator from Maryland bought from me on my stealth acount should I be worried Quote:
Originally Posted by bluestraps
(Post 676652)
Wouldn't ebay first be after me for some violation | No. In fact, if you WERE being investigated by law enforcement, your eBay and PayPal accounts would be bulletproof. At least in terms of being shut down by eBay, or having your items questioned by eBay.
eBay most likely would have been told of the investigation and advised to allow you to continue to sell. That way, they could gather evidence to be used against you.
However, I doubt they would use names and addresses of people who would stick out in any way. More likely, they would use names and addresses that did not correlate to anyone in government, law enforcement, etc. |
| dealagreeproceed | 06-10-2015 03:21 PM | Re: A senator from Maryland bought from me on my stealth acount should I be worried how do you know its even really who you think it is tho??? |
| nickh04 | 06-10-2015 03:48 PM | Re: A senator from Maryland bought from me on my stealth acount should I be worried Cool thread. I've sold an item to Carlos Santana before. Looked up the address and it was some beautiful home in Santa Barbara |
| mat_tz | 06-10-2015 03:50 PM | Re: A senator from Maryland bought from me on my stealth acount should I be worried This brings memories of my early start with eBaying as a youngster. Naive and ignorant I was quick to list items not yet released to the general public in stores that a friend was selling me in bulk for dirt cheap as he was in charge of the conveyor belt for this manufacturer.
This manufacturer hired a PI to investigate and he wound up showing up to my door one day. I was a teenager still so panicked, handed over all my remaining product to him and let him know I would never do that again. He wound up being a very cool guy, bought me lunch and explained how he bought from one of my listings to track me down :O
Moral of story... know what you're selling |
| jeffweico | 06-10-2015 04:24 PM | Re: A senator from Maryland bought from me on my stealth acount should I be worried Exactly. And if you are going to sell questionable items, be aware of the risks and be willing to accept the consequences if you are caught. |
| bluestraps | 06-10-2015 04:30 PM | Re: A senator from Maryland bought from me on my stealth acount should I be worried Let me be clear about this . Im not selling copied cd's or dvds of anything from stores and passing them on as real selling them on ebay. Nor Am I selling copies of software like office or adobe software But in adition to some house items and collectables
Im selling something that cant be found and is not being produced currently by any copyright or trademarked entity. No one has contactd me on ebay or thru any other entity. But I do make some money on it. I don't do more than 10,000 in sales , and according to ebay not required to report to irs .
This is a state senator by her ebay id , she is a first time buyer 0 feedback. jus registered her name starts with senator. with out a proper first name.
I emailed this person and they said the same thing that ive heard others comment on my item |
| jeffweico | 06-10-2015 04:37 PM | Re: A senator from Maryland bought from me on my stealth acount should I be worried If it is not counterfeit, then why even worry about it? I have had celebrities buy my books and even a movie studio that wanted a specific book that was 30 years old but looked brand new to film a scene in some movie or TV show. Politicians are people too. Maybe this person just likes your item... |
| bluestraps | 06-10-2015 04:51 PM | Re: A senator from Maryland bought from me on my stealth acount should I be worried First I must think why would a state senator be trying to involve them self in a action aainst me when they might really want the item im selling.. Not only wold it take up much time and effort,
The only other action is maybe to tell them that I cant go though with the transaction. and send their money back , one I just quit selling for a while , she wont look for the item again.
I can cancel , say the item was listed wrong or broken and send their money back. woud be automatic on paypal http://pages.ebay.com/help/sell/canc...n-process.html |
| bluestraps | 06-10-2015 04:56 PM | Re: A senator from Maryland bought from me on my stealth acount should I be worried Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffweico
(Post 676694)
If it is not counterfeit, then why even worry about it? I have had celebrities buy my books and even a movie studio that wanted a specific book that was 30 years old but looked brand new to film a scene in some movie or TV show. Politicians are people too. Maybe this person just likes your item... | That's just the thing , "Jeffweico"". I read a story about a guy that " was from Baltimore( MD , here we ae in Mayryland again. in the United States has just been sentenced to 87 months in prison for infringing copyrights on more than 1,000 software programs including Microsoft Office, Adobe Photoshop, Mac OSX and Windows XP"
Maybe I can say the person im getting them from is no longer In business |
| bluestraps | 06-10-2015 04:59 PM | Re: A senator from Maryland bought from me on my stealth acount should I be worried Quote:
Originally Posted by ytowngirl126
(Post 676666)
Sounds like your selling knock offs and your worried that you'll get caught since they can turn you into higher authorities. | If that's really the game. I think they just want the item. Ive never even heard of the senator FROM THE STate senate not US senate. Its not like its Harry Reid or Ted Cruz !! |
| bjammin | 06-10-2015 05:01 PM | Re: A senator from Maryland bought from me on my stealth acount should I be worried Quote:
Originally Posted by dealagreeproceed
(Post 676647)
:doh: yup never trust a politician!!!!!!!!!!!! | LMAO :pound: |
| bluestraps | 06-10-2015 05:04 PM | Re: A senator from Maryland bought from me on my stealth acount should I be worried Is that a subtle nudge=}- |
| bjammin | 06-10-2015 05:08 PM | Re: A senator from Maryland bought from me on my stealth acount should I be worried If you are not selling anything illegitimate, then don't worry. You have said multiple times that you are not selling duplicates or phakes to anyone, so why are you concerned? |
| revenge | 06-10-2015 05:30 PM | Re: A senator from Maryland bought from me on my stealth acount should I be worried Why are you so paranoid?
Proverbs 28:1 and Proverbs 10:9 |
Re: A senator from Maryland bought from me on my stealth acount should I be worried Bluestraps, are you off any kind of medication that you should be on? I mean that seriously.....never knew anyone as paranoid as you my friend. |
| GhostOfAmazon | 06-10-2015 05:56 PM | Re: A senator from Maryland bought from me on my stealth acount should I be worried Quote:
Originally Posted by MM78
(Post 676710)
Bluestraps, are you off any kind of medication that you should be on? I mean that seriously.....never knew anyone as paranoid as you my friend. | LMFAO.....this is exactly what I was thinking!
Seriously man...I can create 10 eBay accounts in 2 hours and all of them have "senator" "fbi" "police" "cops" "gonnasendyoutojailwhereyouwillgetraped" "Governor" etc etc etc in them somewhere.
Its more likely that someone from the forums here is playing a dirty joke on you than that a senator is targeting you for an investigation.
SENATORS AREN'T LAW ENFORCEMENT!
Read up on the US government. There are 3 separate branches. I can tell English is not your first language, so let me put it this way:
Senators make laws and vote on bills. POLICE go after criminals. Senators are NOT police! They aren't involved in law enforcement in any way.
Besides that, you have NO CLUE that this is a senator. Someone could just be jerking your chain, and in all likelehood, thats what's happening. Take a pill and calm down man. Drugs to Treat Schizophrenia |
| jeffweico | 06-10-2015 06:02 PM | Re: A senator from Maryland bought from me on my stealth acount should I be worried Quote:
Originally Posted by bluestraps
(Post 676698)
That's just the thing , "Jeffweico"". I read a story about a guy that " was from Baltimore( MD , here we ae in Mayryland again. in the United States has just been sentenced to 87 months in prison for infringing copyrights on more than 1,000 software programs including Microsoft Office, Adobe Photoshop, Mac OSX and Windows XP" | I don't understand. You have said you are not selling copied software or DVD's. And the example above is one of many, there was a lady in Illinois that got a couple of years for selling software downloads, like $350,000 worth.
It makes no difference to ME what you sell, but it is hard to give advice when you are all over the place like this.
Obviously, you are concerned that you item is either not legitimate, or may be perceived as not being legitimate.
If you TRULY do not know if it is legitimate or not, then maybe you should run it by a copyright or trademark attorney??? ICE and the FBI are not going after small sellers, they go after people - generally speaking - where there is reason to believe they have sold over $5,000 worth of counterfeit merchandise. I wish I had saved the link about this, but I didn't - I saw it years ago. I decided long ago not to deal with this stuff. It can be quick money, but it is not a way to build a long term business.
The bottom line is, if you are THAT WORRIED about it then cancel the transaction and either stop selling whatever this is altogether, or sell it on a different account. |
| revenge | 06-10-2015 06:18 PM | Re: A senator from Maryland bought from me on my stealth acount should I be worried :spy: Good luck dropping off the package at the post office. |
Re: A senator from Maryland bought from me on my stealth acount should I be worried Quote:
Originally Posted by revenge
(Post 676722)
:spy: Good luck dropping off the package at the post office. | Your Right....but should he be worried stepping outside his house? after all those FBI Agents might have the place surrounded, or worst....the house might already be bugged! |
| Dmshark25 | 06-10-2015 06:41 PM | Re: A senator from Maryland bought from me on my stealth acount should I be worried Quote:
Originally Posted by bluestraps
(Post 676697)
First I must think why would a state senator be trying to involve them self in a action aainst me when they might really want the item im selling.. Not only wold it take up much time and effort,
The only other action is maybe to tell them that I cant go though with the transaction. and send their money back , one I just quit selling for a while , she wont look for the item again.
I can cancel , say the item was listed wrong or broken and send their money back. woud be automatic on paypal http://pages.ebay.com/help/sell/canc...n-process.html |
It's just a buyer like anyone , whether it really is a senator or not, not sure what u are selling but I'm sure if they are not satisfied they will do what every buyer does and return the item and not use their influence to open up a huge sting operation because they were not satisfied with their item purchased on eBay.
Chances are it's just a stealth account |
| bluestraps | 06-10-2015 07:33 PM | Re: A senator from Maryland bought from me on my stealth acount should I be worried Alright very funny some of you !! Im not crazy or schizo . senate-us2015. user id. Last name of senator in buyer info matches name of a senator. Ok its probably unlikely that she is after me or she would use influence. But Still treading carefully . |
| GhostOfAmazon | 06-10-2015 08:31 PM | Re: A senator from Maryland bought from me on my stealth acount should I be worried Quote:
Originally Posted by bluestraps
(Post 676736)
Alright very funny some of you !! Im not crazy or schizo . senate-us2015. user id. Last name of senator in buyer info matches name of a senator. Ok its probably unlikely that she is after me or she would use influence. But Still treading carefully . | You're being paranoid.....who cares about the eBay ID. I could make an ID that said Mike Tyson and put his name and home address as the delivery place. Doesn't make me a boxer. |
| bluestraps | 06-10-2015 08:41 PM | Re: A senator from Maryland bought from me on my stealth acount should I be worried Do you wanna be helpful or just insult me. Im here for the reason all others are here for help and maybe a little advice. Just making it worse. |
Re: A senator from Maryland bought from me on my stealth acount should I be worried My question is, Why are you worried/scared? I highly doubt she will sick any law enforcement on you if she doesn't like the product. Send her the product, wait to see what happens...which will most likely be nothing at all. |
| revenge | 06-10-2015 09:02 PM | Re: A senator from Maryland bought from me on my stealth acount should I be worried Hopefully Dr. Phil makes a purchase on eBay very soon. Your blue straps may be on too tight. Is that a helmet? Lol.
You need to relax, it's not that serious. |
| bluestraps | 06-10-2015 09:52 PM | Re: A senator from Maryland bought from me on my stealth acount should I be worried Probably because Im cynical anyway. With my luck she sends off to ebay on me and not only I get kicked of ebay again. |
| bluestraps | 06-10-2015 10:12 PM | Re: A senator from Maryland bought from me on my stealth acount should I be worried Found this on the copyright office site
"Serving primarily as an office of record, the Copyright Office is not charged with enforcing the law it administers. Copyright infringement is generally a civil matter, which the copyright owner must pursue in federal court. Under certain circumstances, the infringement may also constitute a criminal misdemeanor or felony, which would be prosecuted by the U.S. Department of Justice. "
so the person claiming copyright would need to persue a claim before an investigation. |
| jrandleww | 06-10-2015 10:25 PM | Re: A senator from Maryland bought from me on my stealth acount should I be worried senate-us2015 does not return results under an ebay user id search. |
| bluegrass1 | 06-10-2015 11:48 PM | Re: A senator from Maryland bought from me on my stealth acount should I be worried Quote:
Originally Posted by revenge
(Post 676660)
I encounter more celebrities customers on Amazon then ebay. I got use to it. Just use signature confirmation as a trophy, lol. Then frame it. | Funny thing I sold "grandma's old hip" A hip replacement I found in a storage unit. to jay leno then it was on the tonite show sold or unsold if anyone remembers that lol you can google it lol guess my 15 mins of fame lol :pound: |
| GhostOfAmazon | 06-10-2015 11:49 PM | Re: A senator from Maryland bought from me on my stealth acount should I be worried OP: You have been given advice.
Several members have told you not to worry about it. What do you want us to say? Retain legal council? You're free to do so if you wish, but I wouldn't even think twice about it if I were in your shoes.
If it really bothers you that much, stop selling the items that are causing you this stress. Problem solved. |
| jeffweico | 06-10-2015 11:57 PM | Re: A senator from Maryland bought from me on my stealth acount should I be worried Quote:
Originally Posted by bluestraps
(Post 676764)
Found this on the copyright office site
"Serving primarily as an office of record, the Copyright Office is not charged with enforcing the law it administers. Copyright infringement is generally a civil matter, which the copyright owner must pursue in federal court. Under certain circumstances, the infringement may also constitute a criminal misdemeanor or felony, which would be prosecuted by the U.S. Department of Justice. "
so the person claiming copyright would need to pursue a claim before an investigation. | Copyright and trademark infringement are very simple.
If, for example, Warner Brothers wants to go after you for copyright infringement, they can only sue you in civil court. Only the government can pursue you criminally. Now, Warner Brothers, if they have evidence, CAN ask a federal prosecutor to go after you, but whether or not to pursue it would be at the prosecutor's discretion.
Now, let's say you try to import 10,000 counterfeit Warner Brothers DVD's. That is probably big enough that the GOVERNMENT is going to come after you.
You seem to be looking for some sort of logical progression, like: 1) eBay warning, 2)copyright lawsuit, 3) criminal case, but the fact is any one of these things can happen at any time. There is no requirement that one thing happen before the other thing. It all depends on HOW you got caught and HOW MUCH you got caught with.
Again, I am not an attorney or a legal expert, but I have seen plenty of cases where eBay sellers thought they could sell counterfeits and never pay any price for it, only to find out they were wrong. Yes, many people MAY get away with it, at least for a short time. But there is NO guarantee that if you sell this stuff you will be safe. | | All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:03 PM. | |
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