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talos 02-09-2016 09:33 PM

What is the cheapest and fastest way to switch IP's?
 
I've recently been running about 18 accounts and meticulously tracking each IP that I've been getting each and every time I log in to a new account. Using JamesNorth101's way of highlighting cells in excel and even having a copy saved to a cloud each time I make a change just in case something crazy happens.

The issue arrises when I switch IP's. I used to use 24vc a lot, but that was for like 5 accounts at max. Now that I have 18 and soon will make more, a VPN is just too costly.

Finding a decent MAC that will generate a brand new ip takes time, and then switching the modem and wifi router off then on and waiting a few minutes for each account turns out to take a couple of hours to just go through like 10 accounts.

Is there a speedier way of obtaining a new IP without using a VPN when using 10+ accounts? Is router swapping ideal or would I have to shut off the modem that way as well?

Any suggestions appreciated!

Thanks and happy stealthing ;)

Mitsu 02-09-2016 09:40 PM

Re: What is the cheapest and fastest way to switch IP's?
 
If you want to get more technical with the process, I think you can create your own VPN through a VPS, and through that you can buy more IPs for your VPS through your provider(s)... I've heard extra IPs only cost around ~$1 extra monthly.

I don't run enough accounts to justify going & learning this route, so I've just somewhat read about it, but seems like a pretty cost effective way to get a lot of IPs.

MakingMoney22 02-09-2016 09:45 PM

Re: What is the cheapest and fastest way to switch IP's?
 
I tether through my phone, takes 20 seconds to get a new IP.

rsot 02-09-2016 09:52 PM

Re: What is the cheapest and fastest way to switch IP's?
 
Cell phone tethering works - also look at dongle use - are you in the US OP?

talos 02-09-2016 09:54 PM

Re: What is the cheapest and fastest way to switch IP's?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mitsu (Post 746122)
If you want to get more technical with the process, I think you can create your own VPN through a VPS, and through that you can buy more IPs for your VPS through your provider(s)... I've heard extra IPs only cost around ~$1 extra monthly.

I don't run enough accounts to justify going & learning this route, so I've just somewhat read about it, but seems like a pretty cost effective way to get a lot of IPs.


Ohhh, why didn't I think of that? Interesting idea. Thanks!

I guess I have to look into how to create my own VPS...? Would I need a specific machine to do so, which I won't mind looking into if I need it, or could just my computer generate these?

Thanks :) :typing:

Mitsu 02-09-2016 10:17 PM

Re: What is the cheapest and fastest way to switch IP's?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by talos (Post 746129)
Ohhh, why didn't I think of that? Interesting idea. Thanks!

I guess I have to look into how to create my own VPS...? Would I need a specific machine to do so, which I won't mind looking into if I need it, or could just my computer generate these?

Thanks :) :typing:

I think you can do it with any standard VPS you order online, and probably with any OS as well, but most of the guides I've seen are linux based.

Here's the guide I was looking at when I was thinking about this:
https://vpntips.com/how-to-setup-a-vpn-server/

yotano211 02-09-2016 10:34 PM

Re: What is the cheapest and fastest way to switch IP's?
 
Right now I am using phone tethering with boost mobile and easy tether pro that i bought in the android store for 8 or 9 bucks. you dont need to root the phone to make this work. i get a new ID address within 5 seconds and i dont keep track of any ip address.

talos 02-09-2016 10:52 PM

Re: What is the cheapest and fastest way to switch IP's?
 
Hmm...

so I called my ISP, and they had no clue about a VPS and told me to check google for a company that deals with VPS. Somehow I ended up calling godaddy and they just do web hosting and thought my idea sounds expensive or nuts and told me to call back to my ISP and instead of asking about a VPS, ask them about how to get multiple IPs from a device of some sort.

I did that and it turns out that just makes my residential account into a business account. I would get a new modem with up to 29 IPs if I wanted. 13 ips was like 75 bucks a month and they are static.

I'm not sure how well phone tethering would work. Are you guys saying that I just get some kind of cell phone for each account with internet service on it and tether the phone to the computer? It sounds like the internet will be slow compared to an ISP.

Also the guy at godaddy mentioned it might be a DNS I'm looking for. I'm getting confused haha.

MM78 02-09-2016 11:00 PM

Re: What is the cheapest and fastest way to switch IP's?
 
Here, lets break it down a bit:
1. Phone Tethering: Uses your Phone's Internet to get online via your Computer
- You can tether via USB cable
- You can tether via WIFI Mode
- 2 Ways to change IP, Fastest way to change IP is to put phone in Airplane Mode for a few seconds (10 secs) and Turn off Airplane Mode.

2. Mifi Tethering: Same Principle as Phone Tethering, The device provides Internet to your Computer.
- Can connect to your PC via USB or Wifi Mode
- Getting a New IP, in 99.99% of the time you gotta turn it off/turn it on

talos 02-09-2016 11:49 PM

Re: What is the cheapest and fastest way to switch IP's?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MM78 (Post 746139)
Here, lets break it down a bit:
1. Phone Tethering: Uses your Phone's Internet to get online via your Computer
- You can tether via USB cable
- You can tether via WIFI Mode
- 2 Ways to change IP, Fastest way to change IP is to put phone in Airplane Mode for a few seconds (10 secs) and Turn off Airplane Mode.

2. Mifi Tethering: Same Principle as Phone Tethering, The device provides Internet to your Computer.
- Can connect to your PC via USB or Wifi Mode
- Getting a New IP, in 99.99% of the time you gotta turn it off/turn it on

How will I know if these IP's are safe to use? Also I'll end up juicing out the data off my phone or whatever service I will end up getting. I'm not sure if it's very economical.

Is a business service from my ISP ideal? Are static IP's an issue? I don't think so because I believe a VPN service basically provides a static IP to use, right?

Mitsu 02-09-2016 11:57 PM

Re: What is the cheapest and fastest way to switch IP's?
 
Yes some VPNs (like 24vc) are static, dedicated IPs that never change... I'd like to believe static IPs are better, eb/pp/ama will see the same IP when you log in and I'd like to say that builds better trust-- but I couldn't say for sure. Either way they are definitely not a problem.

MM78 02-10-2016 12:06 AM

Re: What is the cheapest and fastest way to switch IP's?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by talos (Post 746144)
How will I know if these IP's are safe to use?

If you haven't used your Phone or a Mifi....chances are they are safe. No one can guarantee anything of that sort.

Quote:

Also I'll end up juicing out the data off my phone or whatever service I will end up getting. I'm not sure if it's very economical.
Well....I don't know how many accounts you have, how many you plan to use, how much data you have on your phone plan, etc.....so I can't exactly say yes or no....unless you have a 1gb/month data plan then you gonna have issues.

Quote:

Is a business service from my ISP ideal?
Business service? gonna depend on the ISP.

Quote:

Are static IP's an issue?
Static IP's are only an issue if you log into multiple accounts from the same IP.

Quote:

I don't think so because I believe a VPN service basically provides a static IP to use, right?
Not all VPN's provide static IP, If you get a static IP for each account then your fine.

meoshisha 02-10-2016 12:27 AM

Re: What is the cheapest and fastest way to switch IP's?
 
The cheapest solution I found is 5 USD / month / static IP. So your ISP is providing you a good deal for 75 USD / month / 13 static IPs. Plus, it's easier to setup than my solution.

talos 02-10-2016 12:30 AM

Re: What is the cheapest and fastest way to switch IP's?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mitsu (Post 746146)
Yes some VPNs (like 24vc) are static, dedicated IPs that never change... I'd like to believe static IPs are better, eb/pp/ama will see the same IP when you log in and I'd like to say that builds better trust-- but I couldn't say for sure. Either way they are definitely not a problem.

Yeah, I spoke to my ISP and I think I'm going to get the business internet service from them. $80 for a block of 13 ip's and a bit extra if I want more. Up to 29 ip's. Instant access and will replace my current internet which is just one IP being tortured with every disconnect. I'm already paying like $65 for just one IP so it's definitely worth it. Not sure why I was torturing myself these past few months while building all these accounts.

I appreciate all the information especially from you Mitsu as I wouldn't have thought about this on my own. Silly me haha

Thanks!

talos 02-10-2016 12:37 AM

Re: What is the cheapest and fastest way to switch IP's?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MM78 (Post 746149)
Static IP's are only an issue if you log into multiple accounts from the same IP.

Yeah, I clearly wouldn't log into another account with the same IP haha. It's just been a pain in the butt rebooting in hopes of obtaining a new IP or one that was used by the same account before. Otherwise, I have to reboot the whole process over and it happens a lot.

Each morning I have to go through like 10 different accounts, answer messages, print labels, log out. Then log into another account by doing it all over again. If I end up getting a message on the account that I was just in, I have to redo the whole process just to answer a message or print a new label. 24vc was sublime when I first got into stealth as it was just one click and I'm covered, but I realized if I have 15+ accounts, it's just not economical.

I know there's things like Ship Station that covers these things, but I want more manual control and assurance that I won't be linked in any form. You guys should see my excel sheet. It's gotten to a point where it takes a minute to load from just scrolling around haha

Anyways, thanks for your help really!!

MM78 02-10-2016 12:55 AM

Re: What is the cheapest and fastest way to switch IP's?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by talos (Post 746154)
I know there's things like Ship Station that covers these things, but I want more manual control and assurance that I won't be linked in any form. You guys should see my excel sheet. It's gotten to a point where it takes a minute to load from just scrolling around haha

You don't like to use the shipping labels from ebay?

talos 02-10-2016 01:24 AM

Re: What is the cheapest and fastest way to switch IP's?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MM78 (Post 746156)
You don't like to use the shipping labels from ebay?

Oh no, I do. It's quicker for me to print right from ebay. I'm just saying that Ship Station looks great, but I'm worried about a few quirks it might have in regards to bringing all of my accounts under one login. I'd rather have quick access to everything individually. I need to be able to list items on and off of each account as well and Ship Station doesn't do that. So when I meant manual control, I just meant being able to just log into each thing one by one. 1 new or previously used ip on the same user account, 1 eb/pp, 1 email, etc for each.

GreenBean 02-10-2016 01:33 AM

Re: What is the cheapest and fastest way to switch IP's?
 
Be like us and have your VPS with different blocks of numbers.

Yes, have up to 29 as you said. But have them split over different numbers.

Helps in looking like different sellers.
:juggle:

talos 02-10-2016 02:10 AM

Re: What is the cheapest and fastest way to switch IP's?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenBean (Post 746158)
Be like us and have your VPS with different blocks of numbers.

Yes, have up to 29 as you said. But have them split over different numbers.

Helps in looking like different sellers.
:juggle:

When you say different numbers, do you mean have the IP addresses look as different as possible?

If so, I've been running all these accounts by rebooting my single modem over and over and a lot of the times the ip changes by at least 1 digit. Most of the time, it only changes by just 1 digit.

That worries me and I asked about that in a thread about a month ago but no one answered. The stealth guide said it should be fine if it changes by at least 1 digit, but it looks shady to me. What do you think?

Am I able to request that from my ISP to have the IP's be different?

Mitsu 02-10-2016 02:33 AM

Re: What is the cheapest and fastest way to switch IP's?
 
Chances are your IPs from your ISP will be very similar to each other, and all will be located in the same region... it's not preferable to have that setup but you can't really have it all for cheap.

talos 02-10-2016 03:59 AM

Re: What is the cheapest and fastest way to switch IP's?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mitsu (Post 746168)
Chances are your IPs from your ISP will be very similar to each other, and all will be located in the same region... it's not preferable to have that setup but you can't really have it all for cheap.

Many of the veterans say the IP location doesn't matter. As long as it's not being shared it should be ok. I remember clarifying this point to the max when I started stealth over a year ago. Then again who really knows haha. As long as I don't have any account get suspended I should be fine. I don't plan on having anything linked or suspended anyways. Just simple easy selling.

Mitsu 02-10-2016 04:14 AM

Re: What is the cheapest and fastest way to switch IP's?
 
Yeah I don't think it's big deal... in a perfect setup you would have multiply 'service providers' in different locations, but that's not practical for THIS many accounts.

My current setup is 3 accs as my 'main' accounts, upgrading to business accounts with EINs.. with these I go for dedicated and fresh VPNs, located in the general area of my stealth information.

The rest of the accounts I'm creating/running are 'back ups', if anything should happen to one of my mains I can just swap one of these guys in and start grooming it back to main status. With these I'm currently just using phone tethering.

talos 02-10-2016 12:05 PM

Re: What is the cheapest and fastest way to switch IP's?
 
Bah, I called the sales dept at my ISP and they said 13 ip's would cost me 135 a month and a $60 set up fee. doesn't sound good anymore lol

cmbhuy 02-12-2016 12:40 PM

Re: What is the cheapest and fastest way to switch IP's?
 
set up free amazon aws as vpn or just use the vps
use on a few accounts without problems, i know some people say datacenter ips aren't great but i haven't ran into any problems.

dan_ebay 02-12-2016 01:07 PM

Re: What is the cheapest and fastest way to switch IP's?
 
Can't you get dongles/mifi at a decent price in the US? I only use around 8gb per month.

Check how different the IPs are going to be if you use the business thing, may be all like
10.255.255.255
10.255.255.256
10.255.255.257

Which could be bad news

cmbhuy 02-12-2016 01:34 PM

Re: What is the cheapest and fastest way to switch IP's?
 
If you don't turn off prefetching data could be more than that unlimited plans that you tether works great

talos 02-12-2016 06:54 PM

Re: What is the cheapest and fastest way to switch IP's?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dan_ebay (Post 746870)
Can't you get dongles/mifi at a decent price in the US? I only use around 8gb per month.

Check how different the IPs are going to be if you use the business thing, may be all like
10.255.255.255
10.255.255.256
10.255.255.257

Which could be bad news

Yeah, 123 mentioned the same thing to me actually. That someone had used their ISP for ip's and ended up getting sequential ones like you just listed and the accounts ended up getting linked and suspensions happened. I called myself and both Verizon and another ISP that I use both said they would provide sequential. I want to avoid that.

How does the dongle thing work? I don't think Mifi will be cheaper than just using a VPN.

I'm already having issues now because each time I reboot, an IP pops up that I've used already on different accounts, and I have to reboot like 3 or 4 times until I get a fresh IP. Ends up taking me like 20 minutes to log in to just one account and it's really frustrating. I would like to avoid dishing out a full annual fee for a VPN because if I get a few negative feedbacks on an account within the first month, the rest of the year I'll have to wait until the negatives are cleared to work on it again.

Tough call haha ...but now I'm going to look at those dongles you mentioned

ithelps 02-12-2016 08:36 PM

Re: What is the cheapest and fastest way to switch IP's?
 
The only reason why I don't use people methods on here or any of aspkin methods when creating accounts is because its expensive.

Yes it works, but my way works too. But you guys are going to come bashing on me if I tell you my method. Ignorance is bliss

My suggestion to you is, don't just listen to what people say on here if you are looking for a cheaper way. Otherwise its just going to be expensive.

Not saying that you guys are not helpful. Well some of you guys are useless - fact.

leemajors 02-23-2016 04:38 PM

Re: What is the cheapest and fastest way to switch IP's?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by talos (Post 746152)
Yeah, I spoke to my ISP and I think I'm going to get the business internet service from them. $80 for a block of 13 ip's and a bit extra if I want more. Up to 29 ip's. Instant access and will replace my current internet which is just one IP being tortured with every disconnect. I'm already paying like $65 for just one IP so it's definitely worth it. Not sure why I was torturing myself these past few months while building all these accounts.

I appreciate all the information especially from you Mitsu as I wouldn't have thought about this on my own. Silly me haha

Thanks!

whats ur isp
im comcast
does comcast offer that service

empirestate 02-23-2016 06:25 PM

Re: What is the cheapest and fastest way to switch IP's?
 
would be nice to change an IP in 1-2 seconds...

ithelps 02-23-2016 06:29 PM

Re: What is the cheapest and fastest way to switch IP's?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by empirestate (Post 749972)
would be nice to change an IP in 1-2 seconds...

that's easy.

but Why would you want to change ip every 1-2 seconds? For account creation?

empirestate 02-23-2016 06:37 PM

Re: What is the cheapest and fastest way to switch IP's?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ithelps (Post 749974)
that's easy.

but Why would you want to change ip every 1-2 seconds? For account creation?

Yes ebay god for account creation

ithelps 02-23-2016 06:59 PM

Re: What is the cheapest and fastest way to switch IP's?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by empirestate (Post 749975)
Yes ebay god for account creation

Wouldn't that be bad though...

jumping from different locations constantly. Even if the same location...

The fact that you don't know how to switch ip every 1-2 seconds means you haven't even tried it yourself.


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