Any idea why sellers do this? - Page 2 - eBay Suspended & PayPal Limited Forums
eBay Suspension & PayPal Limited Forums  
Join Today
Register Subscribe
     

Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!


Go Back   Home > Platform Discussions > eBay Discussion!

eBay Discussion! EBay Forum. News, Updates, or Anything eBay is Welcome. A kind of lounge if you will.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #23  
Old 06-02-2016
phaz0rz's Avatar
Executive [VIP]
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 11,089
Thanks: 2,148
Thanked 4,081 Times in 3,060 Posts
Activity: 65%
Longevity: 54%
iTrader: (2)
Send a message via ICQ to phaz0rz Send a message via AIM to phaz0rz Send a message via Yahoo to phaz0rz
Default Re: Any idea why sellers do this?

Retailer, you're incorrect about a lot of things in this thread. You'd be surprised what you can get away with, if you're just nice/generous with your mail carrier. Once a parcel is accepted, it's smooth sailing from there 99% of the time.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to phaz0rz For This Useful Post:
Retailer77 (06-02-2016)
The complete step-by-step guide to get back to selling today!

  #24  
Old 06-02-2016
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 904
Thanks: 141
Thanked 306 Times in 204 Posts
Activity: 0%
Longevity: 61%
iTrader: (0)
Default Re: Any idea why sellers do this?

they paying it are they? Biggest seller in the uk (and the world i think) got shut down and being sued for millions by our postal service
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 06-02-2016
phaz0rz's Avatar
Executive [VIP]
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 11,089
Thanks: 2,148
Thanked 4,081 Times in 3,060 Posts
Activity: 65%
Longevity: 54%
iTrader: (2)
Send a message via ICQ to phaz0rz Send a message via AIM to phaz0rz Send a message via Yahoo to phaz0rz
Default Re: Any idea why sellers do this?

Quote:
Originally Posted by dan_ebay View Post
they paying it are they? Biggest seller in the uk (and the world i think) got shut down and being sued for millions by our postal service
Who?

You got a link?
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 06-02-2016
Banned
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 20,211
Thanks: 2,639
Thanked 5,326 Times in 4,105 Posts
Activity: 0%
Longevity: 67%
iTrader: (459)
Default Re: Any idea why sellers do this?

Babz is (was) the name of the seller
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to JamesNorth101 For This Useful Post:
Retailer77 (06-02-2016)
  #27  
Old 06-02-2016
Senior Member
Threadstarter  
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 625
Thanks: 85
Thanked 29 Times in 24 Posts
Activity: 0%
Longevity: 55%
iTrader: (0)
Default Re: Any idea why sellers do this?

Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesNorth101 View Post
Babz is (was) the name of the seller
I was wondering why babz store had nothing in it
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 06-02-2016
GreenBean's Avatar
Executive [VIP]
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 42,343
Thanks: 5,612
Thanked 9,143 Times in 7,106 Posts
Activity: 0%
Longevity: 96%
iTrader: (6)
Default Re: Any idea why sellers do this?

Quote:
Originally Posted by phaz0rz View Post
Who?

You got a link?
Babz Media was their name.

Link here....

Babz Media - ebay seller - General Discussion - Digital Spy Forums

Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 06-02-2016
phaz0rz's Avatar
Executive [VIP]
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 11,089
Thanks: 2,148
Thanked 4,081 Times in 3,060 Posts
Activity: 65%
Longevity: 54%
iTrader: (2)
Send a message via ICQ to phaz0rz Send a message via AIM to phaz0rz Send a message via Yahoo to phaz0rz
Default Re: Any idea why sellers do this?

Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesNorth101 View Post
Babz is (was) the name of the seller
That's incredible. I've been researching this guy since you made this post. First time I've heard of them.

Do you know exactly what got them shut down, James? I've read they got sued first by a UK environmental agency, then Royal Mail killed them off for good. Apparently for "undeclaring" mail?

I guess since this isn't something we do in USA, the concept is totally lost on me. Was he using the wrong mail class or something?

It's scary how relevant this case is to the post I made earlier..
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 06-02-2016
GreenBean's Avatar
Executive [VIP]
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 42,343
Thanks: 5,612
Thanked 9,143 Times in 7,106 Posts
Activity: 0%
Longevity: 96%
iTrader: (6)
Default Re: Any idea why sellers do this?

Part of the method was under declaring amount of postage items.

Getting 3000 submitted for postage but paying for 1500!

Also fell very very foul of the Tax Office, aka HRMC. They ran a back office enquiry on them over many years. Turned out to be very fruitful.
Reply With Quote
  #31  
Old 06-02-2016
rsot's Avatar
Executive [VIP]
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 80,812
Thanks: 6,374
Thanked 9,424 Times in 8,698 Posts
Activity: 95%
Longevity: 85%
iTrader: (7)
Default Re: Any idea why sellers do this?

Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesNorth101 View Post
Why don't you message them and ask if you really want to know?
Good one James
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to rsot For This Useful Post:
Retailer77 (06-02-2016)
  #32  
Old 06-02-2016
phaz0rz's Avatar
Executive [VIP]
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 11,089
Thanks: 2,148
Thanked 4,081 Times in 3,060 Posts
Activity: 65%
Longevity: 54%
iTrader: (2)
Send a message via ICQ to phaz0rz Send a message via AIM to phaz0rz Send a message via Yahoo to phaz0rz
Default Re: Any idea why sellers do this?

So in the UK, you guys/gals pay for postage when the mail goes out?
Reply With Quote
  #33  
Old 06-02-2016
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 904
Thanks: 141
Thanked 306 Times in 204 Posts
Activity: 0%
Longevity: 61%
iTrader: (0)
Default Re: Any idea why sellers do this?

yeah if you get a business account you book it in online yourself. They supposedly check but clearly not very often.
We have a sales tax that is self declared aswell and rarely checked on, 16.6% of turnover that they no doubt won't of been paying either.

He had another top 10 account aswell can't remember the name will look later. Ebay had the owner talking at conferences and stuff aswell lol
Reply With Quote
  #34  
Old 06-03-2016
phaz0rz's Avatar
Executive [VIP]
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 11,089
Thanks: 2,148
Thanked 4,081 Times in 3,060 Posts
Activity: 65%
Longevity: 54%
iTrader: (2)
Send a message via ICQ to phaz0rz Send a message via AIM to phaz0rz Send a message via Yahoo to phaz0rz
Default Re: Any idea why sellers do this?

He's on this list as #2 and #5, and I've heard he had another account with over 1 million feedback.

The World's Top eBay Sellers - Web Retailer Blog

Damn shame he had to stop trading. This case makes me thankful for stamps.com and the way postage is handled in USA.
Reply With Quote
  #35  
Old 06-03-2016
GreenBean's Avatar
Executive [VIP]
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 42,343
Thanks: 5,612
Thanked 9,143 Times in 7,106 Posts
Activity: 0%
Longevity: 96%
iTrader: (6)
Default Re: Any idea why sellers do this?

Quote:
Originally Posted by phaz0rz View Post
He's on this list as #2 and #5, and I've heard he had another account with over 1 million feedback.

The World's Top eBay Sellers - Web Retailer Blog

Damn shame he had to stop trading. This case makes me thankful for stamps.com and the way postage is handled in USA.
He got careless.

There was a group of high traders, some located on the North West of the UK who all lost massive accounts because they thought they had immunity.

Reply With Quote
  #36  
Old 06-03-2016
phaz0rz's Avatar
Executive [VIP]
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 11,089
Thanks: 2,148
Thanked 4,081 Times in 3,060 Posts
Activity: 65%
Longevity: 54%
iTrader: (2)
Send a message via ICQ to phaz0rz Send a message via AIM to phaz0rz Send a message via Yahoo to phaz0rz
Default Re: Any idea why sellers do this?

Worth noting that "estocks", formerly the worlds #1 Ebay seller, has inexplicably closed shop as well.

I guess once I reach one million feedback, I'll start slowing down some :P
Reply With Quote
  #37  
Old 06-03-2016
yankee's Avatar
Executive [VIP]
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 8,981
Thanks: 2,744
Thanked 3,109 Times in 2,282 Posts
Activity: 0%
Longevity: 64%
iTrader: (2)
Default Re: Any idea why sellers do this?

If you had a big account in 2013 you were a target in ebay's eyes. They cut out 14,000 top 1% sellers in August alone according to the Wall Street Journal. Similar cuts again in October.

When you start selling several thousand items a month and have hundreds of thousands of dollars in sales, you have a series of other criteria to follow not related to DRSs. You are an ebay partner and things like how you communicate and how many customers are dissatisfied not related to % come into play.

I would never want a single huge account again. It is a full time job communicating with ebay and paypal daily.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to yankee For This Useful Post:
phaz0rz (06-03-2016)
  #38  
Old 06-03-2016
GreenBean's Avatar
Executive [VIP]
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 42,343
Thanks: 5,612
Thanked 9,143 Times in 7,106 Posts
Activity: 0%
Longevity: 96%
iTrader: (6)
Default Re: Any idea why sellers do this?

And in typical ebay/paypal fashion they zapped accpunts without too much warning....

So much for having account managers on speed dial. That number was discommected with not as much as a blink of the eye.

Reply With Quote
  #39  
Old 06-03-2016
yankee's Avatar
Executive [VIP]
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 8,981
Thanks: 2,744
Thanked 3,109 Times in 2,282 Posts
Activity: 0%
Longevity: 64%
iTrader: (2)
Default Re: Any idea why sellers do this?

Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenBean View Post
And in typical ebay/paypal fashion they zapped accpunts without too much warning....

So much for having account managers on speed dial. That number was discommected with not as much as a blink of the eye.

100% You have to deal with a secret back door department. SRS or something like that. direct Email only, no ebay messages and reps can not read or help in any way.

Basically, ebay restricted accounts on September 28th-30th for 30 days with a November 1st reinstate date and watched to see how many cases came in and how you handled them and then zapped your account as soon as you paid your fees with expectations on being able to sell November 1st. They even encouraged you to update listings and inventory in your store as drafts. Very painful process for sure
Reply With Quote
  #40  
Old 06-04-2016
phaz0rz's Avatar
Executive [VIP]
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 11,089
Thanks: 2,148
Thanked 4,081 Times in 3,060 Posts
Activity: 65%
Longevity: 54%
iTrader: (2)
Send a message via ICQ to phaz0rz Send a message via AIM to phaz0rz Send a message via Yahoo to phaz0rz
Default Re: Any idea why sellers do this?

Yankee, if you're still around on this thread, what exactly does a TSAM do?
Reply With Quote
  #41  
Old 06-04-2016
GreenBean's Avatar
Executive [VIP]
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 42,343
Thanks: 5,612
Thanked 9,143 Times in 7,106 Posts
Activity: 0%
Longevity: 96%
iTrader: (6)
Default Re: Any idea why sellers do this?

Quote:
Originally Posted by phaz0rz View Post
Yankee, if you're still around on this thread, what exactly does a TSAM do?
Two replies:

Tsam-touk is a foul tasting soup from Tibet

OR

Salaried position with ebay as
Top Selling Account Manager.


College graduates get the chance to work at ebay in the postion.

This is an outline....

Guest Post: Confessions of an eBay TSAM



Keep in mind, there have been multiple changes to policies.
Reply With Quote
  #42  
Old 06-04-2016
GreenBean's Avatar
Executive [VIP]
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 42,343
Thanks: 5,612
Thanked 9,143 Times in 7,106 Posts
Activity: 0%
Longevity: 96%
iTrader: (6)
Default Re: Any idea why sellers do this?

Also the starting salary for TSAM is just on $US50,000 annually.

Over structured and controlling lot.


Last edited by GreenBean; 06-04-2016 at 09:22 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #43  
Old 06-04-2016
phaz0rz's Avatar
Executive [VIP]
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 11,089
Thanks: 2,148
Thanked 4,081 Times in 3,060 Posts
Activity: 65%
Longevity: 54%
iTrader: (2)
Send a message via ICQ to phaz0rz Send a message via AIM to phaz0rz Send a message via Yahoo to phaz0rz
Default Re: Any idea why sellers do this?

LOL, thank you GB, but I googled extensively yesterday and pretty much found all that info. The article by the former Ebay TSAM was very, very interesting. I actually find it comforting that once you reach a certain point, Ebay will go out of their way to keep your account safe.

I was more or less asking about Yankee's personal experience dealing with a TSAM, since he's the only currently active forum member I know of who's ever reached that point with an account.
Reply With Quote
  #44  
Old 06-04-2016
yankee's Avatar
Executive [VIP]
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 8,981
Thanks: 2,744
Thanked 3,109 Times in 2,282 Posts
Activity: 0%
Longevity: 64%
iTrader: (2)
Default Re: Any idea why sellers do this?

The old system was great! I was very specifically in, Top Customer Care back then. I never used my rep but I loved that when I called several times a day I talked to the same few people everyday on ebay and paypal. Pretty much EVERYTHING could be corrected. I think the most negative feedback I had removed in one day was 19. Most days 4-5. It was incredibly simple.

TODAY is not so great. Yes you get to talk to the same person 5 days a week, but they don't solve problems. They help you sell more and helps you navigate potential issues. You get a special 877 number and talk to foreigners who do understand almost all aspects of ebay and can help solve issues.

I say it is not so great but I have yet to operate in a way this year to know for sure if they can actually offer the service I would need. I don't have several thousand transactions a week total, never mind on one account. I changed how I did business altogether when I lost that one big account.

That being said, I will be pushing the envelope to the farthest degree August-October and will be able to supply better first hand knowledge by early fall.

Have you been invited into any of these new programs phaz0rz?
Only two accounts in my real name and database verified and with 2+ Year Old EIN accounts have been so far. I wonder if that has something to do with it.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to yankee For This Useful Post:
phaz0rz (06-04-2016)
Reply




Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
UK business sellers, how do you beat the none VAT compliant sellers? Atom UK eBay & Paypal 3 05-06-2016 03:40 PM
chinese sellers ruining it for amazon UK sellers mao Amazon 5 10-31-2015 02:13 AM
Great Idea or Bad Idea? JRYAN34 Amazon 0 06-14-2011 02:59 AM
CA sellers must have a sellers permit. Do you guys have one? rjebay eBay Discussion! 2 01-11-2009 01:54 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:57 AM.


Stop the guessing games and learn how you can quickly and easily get back on eBay today!
Read the best selling step-by-step eBay Suspension guide eBay Stealth!
Rotating Residential Proxies? Head to IPBurger for Residential Proxies
vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2026, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Ad Management by RedTyger
no new posts