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I wonder if i register like 50 buyer accs, then create about 5 seller accs, then buy some generic items like light bulbs or AA batteries from these sellers, using buyer accs, how dangerous can it be? It will happen in a time frame of a month, not everything in a single day, of course. All of them will be 100% different stealths, and picked up randomly for buying from different seller accs.

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muzzie... what do you expect the forum would reply to a question like this one?

It is not recommended to do it, this is not how the stealth account shall be managed.

You should know the risks involved... you should know if you can handle it or not.

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Lots of new, zero / low feedback accounts that are all bidding / buying from one account will flag the seller account for feedback manipulation / shill bidding.

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Forum is a place where I can get answers for my stupid questions :) Thank you, guys.

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LOL, sorry was not my intention but probably this is what came out of my answer... ;)

It is not really the way to get feedbacks. Should not be hard to sell a few cheap non risky items around.

I have problem selling cheap stuff in my country... people seems to be only interested in mobiles phones and high risk items :rant:

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That's definately a pain for you ilcarletto if your fellow Italians are mostly wanting to buy mobiles and tech and other risky items.

Muzzle you definately don't want to be trying to manufacture feedback with large amounts of accounts buying from each other. Just sell to good standards and the feedback will generate itself no problemo!

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Much easier to sell low-end non-risky items and let regular buyers buy them.

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Don't do it. It wont work.
Go to the dollar store and buy a bunch of crap and sell it for nothing to get proper feedbacks.

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The issue is that I followed advice of some senior members of this forum, went to a local DIY department store with my tablet, checked several discounted household items, like LED light bulbs, duct tapes, cardboard boxes etc. And found out that ebay is literally swarmed with any of these, for even smaller prices. Was not able to find anything that is not already at EB for +/- same price, always is someone who gives even less and has 1000s of sales.

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Fivver can boost your feedback.

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You can sell few items with a small loss, add some Free Bonus and you will get feedbacks
This is safer way and more natural than risk manipulating

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I would very much appreciate if you give me a hind of something that is not already overcrowded on EB, and will sell faster than several months. I have perfumes - post won't ship them. I have car parts almost for free - no luck. iphone cases for China prices, at a loss - 1 sale in 2 months. I am out of clues, any hints are welcome.

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Go to a garage sale(US), Carboot sale(UK), or in Eastern-European countries case just a normal Market and but crap. Sell it for minimum price and I'm sure somebody will pick something up.

I hear people saying that dollar stores or poundlands are great source for stock but I find carboot sales in UK to be much easier. You can literally buy boxes of crap for £1 or £5 and sell them on not for profit, but for feedback and transaction value.

In Eastern European countries, a normal market has people selling all sorts of crap, just get a box of randomness and work it. Don't try to buy stuff from store and make some profit on it AND get feedback:laugh:

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Gotta go to our crap & flea market.

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...don't worry muzzie, uk markets sells a lot of crap too nowadays... ;)

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This service is getting overused everyday - I can see it causing problems soon

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Shill bidding is illegal, be very careful.

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No, shill bidding is not what I am looking for. It was about how to sell some things fast in order to get feedbacks.

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It has to be something small to ship . and yes you will sell it at a loss . Ebayers are spoilt for choice now. 99 pence free delivery and see how you can best package it . but yes it cost your sales and keeps your defect rate low.

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I just bought 5 earphones from poundland, put them on auction for 1p n sold them all within the 3 days, sure i took a loss but thats me got 5 happy people leaving feedback. Personally i dont see it as a loss, more of a gain in the long run. happy selling people.

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This is exactly what the Chinese do to build feedback. They sell items so cheap they end up losing money but gain feedback really fast....then they break out the expensive items.

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Buy stuff with your account. buyer feedback is still feedback.

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Buyer feedback means nothing if you want to build a decent seller account.

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Does not count as seller feedback.

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What does it count as? So if Im new and have zero positive feedback, I buy an e book, where does that feedback go? It doesnt give me 1 positive feedback?

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Your feedback will have a total of 1, however if a buyer goes to look at your feedback it automatically shows "Feedback as a seller" so the buyer will be brought to your feedback page and their will be 0 feedbacks, and than their they can click "feedback as buyer" and see that one positive feedback


Besides for show, they both have different functions. For your account to be free of category limits you need 25 seller feedback. So in a situation if your feedback score is say 100 but 80 was from buying and 20 from selling you will still need 5 more feedback from sales to get to 25 selling feedbacks and release any category restrictions

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As has been previously stated, sell things... But even at a small loss...

Example I have a primary account that sells only new, I look over each item and make sure it is in best condition. However I have smaller accounts that I sell the less them AS-IS or used. They are often in better then described condition. People love this and say "wow its like new"...

Create lower expectation and exceed that expectation. People are more likely to give you feedback...

However people often do the reverse. Great listing, excellent pictures and then ship sub par item. Higher expectations + Sub Par product = Bad feedback

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I think that this is really important with this ratings system, I'll always sell dollar store items throughout my accounts , and take a loss on them. But more important than feedback is the amount of transactions in this system,

I like keeping transactions high that way if their is a defect it will easily be drowned out by constant transactions throughout the day from these giveaway dollar store items.

And the more bids and purchases , the more traffic gets sent your way. So I may lose a small amount with the dollar store items , but it's boosting traffic and transactions , two keys that is needed to keep your account at a high standard in this system.

And than also you will have a nice stream of positive feedbacks.

You sell items at a loss to,drive in the customers and than once they are in you sell your main items as well that have a high profit margin that will make up for any loss.
Basically the same strategy seen in supermarkets.

And I think of those losses more as just a marketing fee, because as mentioned they boost traffic and boost sales of other items.

This system thrives from activity, a stale or slow account will just slowly die to where there is no traffic at all in your store.

These accounts need to be active and selling, bidding , watching, etc,,, An active account will just keep growing more and more.

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Just an FYI....Buying Ebooks, Selling Ebooks, Buying Digital, Selling Digital crap for feedback is not the best way to go about it. Might of worked a few years ago but not anymore.

Buyer Feedback; It's great to build "some" feedback but any real buyer looks at "Sellers Feedback".....I don't care if someone has 100,000 feedback if they only have 1-5 actual selling feedback.

For anyone on this forum....It's all about Sellers Feedback.

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100% the right place to ask , before you start

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good info. thank my friend

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This technique works for everyone. If you want a proper legit stealth account. You'll bite the bullet. Take that small loss for proper reviews and then your on your way. I manage a little over 300 stealth accounts now since my time here.

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Here's a warning if you're buying feedback on ebay. I've bought feedback for all my accounts for the last few years, and just last week paypal limited one of my accounts for suspicious activity while doing the same thing. I had bought about 65 items over the course of the month, all for 11 cents or less. Paypal account was even aged for over a year. What a waste of time(and money).

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If you have the item people want it's going to sell regardless of feedback

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Most people don't check feedback type. So having like 5-6 feedbacks even as a buyer is better than having none.

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Very true.

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I usually buy some cheap NON-DIGITAL crap like envelopes, cd-rs, ⊗⊗⊗⊗ jewelry, nail stickers, phone cables, phone cases, all from auctions, so price never goes above 1 usd. All that is done during first month of sales, so it ages and gets feedbacks, very nice! Also I try to sell a couple of things cheap, safe things like phone cases that cost 5 usd, for 1 usd, just to earn feedbacks fast. I think that investing less than 10 bucks into every stealth is better than using totally virgin zero-feedback accs and wondering why were they suspended over and over after first sale attempt.

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true except that if you have 100 feedbacks someone is probably going to buy from you faster than if you have 3 feedbacks.
Dons't matter if the seller or buyer feedbacks to most people - someone with 100+ beside their handle "looks" more established.

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Established, sure but none of the "perks" of having real seller feedback.