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mastersc 06-01-2021 06:39 PM

Sending creative documents to managed payments ebay
 
I've seen this has been a problem and is the main reason stealth MP is a tough business. Is it unlikely to succesfully use creative documents? Do they search country databases? Do we need real ID?

mastersc 06-02-2021 03:13 AM

Re: Sending creative documents to managed payments ebay
 
Could you please answer

rsot 06-02-2021 04:11 AM

Re: Sending creative documents to managed payments ebay
 
Which ebay platform are you using by the way? .com? Just to clarify

mastersc 06-02-2021 04:49 AM

Re: Sending creative documents to managed payments ebay
 
I am planning to use co.uk - but I can use .com

Steveo036940 06-02-2021 06:42 AM

Re: Sending creative documents to managed payments ebay
 
I can't speak for UK accounts, but USA EBay.com accounts switching to MP requires a real name, SSN and date of birth. Adyen performs an identity check on each account. ⊗⊗⊗⊗ information gets flagged, promoting a request for documents (which need to be real and verifiable). True stealth is dead in the USA.

mastersc 06-02-2021 08:37 AM

Re: Sending creative documents to managed payments ebay
 
I understand. That is why I am considering to create either from UK or a minor country but I don't know which would be easier.

Shadyhero1002 06-02-2021 12:17 PM

Re: Sending creative documents to managed payments ebay
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Steveo036940 (Post 1156217)
I can't speak for UK accounts, but USA EBay.com accounts switching to MP requires a real name, SSN and date of birth. Adyen performs an identity check on each account. ⊗⊗⊗⊗ information gets flagged, promoting a request for documents (which need to be real and verifiable). True stealth is dead in the USA.

If you switch to business account they don't ask for SSN and all you'll need is EIN and possible a "creative" I.D.

dune 06-02-2021 12:26 PM

Re: Sending creative documents to managed payments ebay
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Steveo036940 (Post 1156217)
I can't speak for UK accounts, but USA EBay.com accounts switching to MP requires a real name, SSN and date of birth. Adyen performs an identity check on each account. ⊗⊗⊗⊗ information gets flagged, promoting a request for documents (which need to be real and verifiable). True stealth is dead in the USA.

What about the address?, is it checked by Adyen?, I don't want to upload docs.

Steveo036940 06-02-2021 03:18 PM

Re: Sending creative documents to managed payments ebay
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadyhero1002 (Post 1156249)
If you switch to business account they don't ask for SSN and all you'll need is EIN and possible a "creative" I.D.

Wrong...
A SSN number is required for ALL accounts, business and personal. The only difference between opening a business account is that they also require an EIN number along with a SSN number.

Steveo036940 06-02-2021 03:23 PM

Re: Sending creative documents to managed payments ebay
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aorcat (Post 1156252)
What about the address?, is it checked by Adyen?, I don't want to upload docs.


Address does not matter for US accounts. You need:
Valid name
SSN number
Valid date of birth
It's also best if the name on the bank account matches. Some have been asked to upload bank statements, so I think they're checking the names. Not sure as others using mismatched names have stated they work.
I've opened several MP accounts, both business and personal and have never been asked for a document, of course everything matched and was verifiable.

pirateblackmanboyd 06-03-2021 12:57 AM

Re: Sending creative documents to managed payments ebay
 
could you sell in .com with an account registered in a small country? what about a Nigerian acct or somewhere like that would they still have to use MP and how would Adyen verify these people

pirateblackmanboyd 06-03-2021 01:00 AM

Re: Sending creative documents to managed payments ebay
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mastersc (Post 1156228)
I understand. That is why I am considering to create either from UK or a minor country but I don't know which would be easier.

i was thinking this same thing. will small countries be part of MP

rsot 06-03-2021 03:44 AM

Re: Sending creative documents to managed payments ebay
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pirateblackmanboyd (Post 1156331)
i was thinking this same thing. will small countries be part of MP

You might have to experiment with this then looking at what will be requested if you try with small countries

mastersc 06-04-2021 01:35 PM

Re: Sending creative documents to managed payments ebay
 
I can't open an account in US then as I do not have an SSN number. How are things in UK or small countries? Do they check if the person is real etc in those?

Uavmods 06-05-2021 01:10 AM

Re: Sending creative documents to managed payments ebay
 
I run a UK account full stealth on MP its been working for 6 months now
With creative documents and ID

lyvyo 06-06-2021 04:15 AM

Re: Sending creative documents to managed payments ebay
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Uavmods (Post 1156657)
I run a UK account full stealth on MP its been working for 6 months now
With creative documents and ID

How did you do to open a bank account with a fa⊗⊗ name? Which bank are you using? Thanks

rsot 06-06-2021 05:44 AM

Re: Sending creative documents to managed payments ebay
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lyvyo (Post 1156762)
How did you do to open a bank account with a fa⊗⊗ name? Which bank are you using? Thanks

User could be using a bank account in his real name and getting through with stealth info

lyvyo 06-06-2021 06:10 AM

Re: Sending creative documents to managed payments ebay
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 1156766)
User could be using a bank account in his real name and getting through with stealth info

Unfortunately I am not UK citizen, so I am trying to understand if there is an online bank that could be bypassed with a not real ID.

Moreover, the guy says "Fully stealth", so this makes me think that the bank account might also be stealth.

rsot 06-06-2021 06:59 AM

Re: Sending creative documents to managed payments ebay
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lyvyo (Post 1156780)
Unfortunately I am not UK citizen, so I am trying to understand if there is an online bank that could be bypassed with a not real ID.

Moreover, the guy says "Fully stealth", so this makes me think that the bank account might also be stealth.

Going stealth with a bank (in general) is not only dangerous for fund access but also illegal if it's a legit bank

GreenBean 06-06-2021 07:07 AM

Re: Sending creative documents to managed payments ebay
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pirateblackmanboyd (Post 1156331)
i was thinking this same thing. will small countries be part of MP

Not exactly. Small countries are already having different financial combos than PayPal.

Payoneer could be of use.

murdered_by_ebay 06-06-2021 08:28 AM

Re: Sending creative documents to managed payments ebay
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 1156784)
Going stealth with a bank (in general) is not only dangerous for fund access but also illegal if it's a legit bank

stealth bank is not needed anyway , it is not even a question of legality but it is too risky as the balance could be lost and there is no need for it too as a real bank account can be used as long as you have an established seller account to use it with

mastersc 06-06-2021 11:59 AM

Re: Sending creative documents to managed payments ebay
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenBean (Post 1156785)
Not exactly. Small countries are already having different financial combos than PayPal.

Payoneer could be of use.

So if Ebay uses Payoneer in a spesific country - who does the verification? Is it Ebay or Payoneer? I mean would it be easier to verify MP in countries with that use Payoneer or countries that don't such as UK?

mastersc 06-06-2021 12:01 PM

Re: Sending creative documents to managed payments ebay
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 1156349)
You might have to experiment with this then looking at what will be requested if you try with small countries

Do major countries use Payoneer? If not is it easier to go stealth with countries with Payoneer or major ones?

murdered_by_ebay 06-06-2021 02:39 PM

Re: Sending creative documents to managed payments ebay
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mastersc (Post 1156822)
Do major countries use Payoneer? If not is it easier to go stealth with countries with Payoneer or major ones?

payoneer is easier

joshua9978 06-06-2021 04:55 PM

Re: Sending creative documents to managed payments ebay
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Uavmods (Post 1156657)
I run a UK account full stealth on MP its been working for 6 months now
With creative documents and ID

Yeah but werent you one of the first lot who done it when they introduced it it was no force in and they were new to it and some did slip through the net in earlier days and some crashed so hard thinking wtf as it was suppposed to be lala land like etsy sign up.

Runnynose 06-08-2021 07:16 PM

Re: Sending creative documents to managed payments ebay
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mastersc (Post 1156820)
So if Ebay uses Payoneer in a spesific country - who does the verification? Is it Ebay or Payoneer? I mean would it be easier to verify MP in countries with that use Payoneer or countries that don't such as UK?

Working on it, small country, requires ID number, active phone for text verification, and active bank info for withdrawals via Payoneer to said bank.

mastersc 06-13-2021 05:30 PM

Re: Sending creative documents to managed payments ebay
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay (Post 1156830)
payoneer is easier

Do major countries use Payoneer too?

mastersc 06-13-2021 05:31 PM

Re: Sending creative documents to managed payments ebay
 
Do we send docs to ebay too or if the country uses payoneer - do we only send the docs to them? I will use creative docs and am wondering if we send it to both parties.

murdered_by_ebay 06-14-2021 09:44 AM

Re: Sending creative documents to managed payments ebay
 
ebay will not be asking for docs if verification was done by payoneer.

however I would not count on avoiding a hard ebay verification if you start running large turnovers. because eventually all payoneer countries are high risk and I can't imagine ebay will rely on payoneer only in regards to high volume sellers from those countries

mastersc 06-15-2021 02:55 PM

Re: Sending creative documents to managed payments ebay
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay (Post 1158108)
ebay will not be asking for docs if verification was done by payoneer.

however I would not count on avoiding a hard ebay verification if you start running large turnovers. because eventually all payoneer countries are high risk and I can't imagine ebay will rely on payoneer only in regards to high volume sellers from those countries

Could you give estimate averages for high volumes?

murdered_by_ebay 06-15-2021 03:00 PM

Re: Sending creative documents to managed payments ebay
 
I think if a new account in a third world country goes beyond several hundred dollars per month it is already a lot


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