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| murdered_by_ebay | 08-21-2021 06:23 AM |
Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE from eBay Managed Payments - Your Action is Needed
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Originally Posted by muzzie
(Post 1167155)
How come i should follow Ayden TCs if they are not on EBay site, so technically have no effect and ebay does not say "you must accept Ayden TCs in order to register on our platform"
| They conceal information on purpose. In this case it looks like it is continuation of the virtual account ban
as far as I understand your LUX bank accounts are virtual accounts as well? most likely citibank because citibank have been issuing virtual accounts in LUX in large quantities and citibank is already banned in some other countries on ebay
Wise is a problem as well because it is the abused account provider #1 , there are loads of stealth accounts there |
| murdered_by_ebay | 08-21-2021 06:32 AM |
Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE from eBay Managed Payments - Your Action is Needed
in general I think it is necessary to use local banks only and stay away from any virtual bank accounts. It is likely that the issue here is that stealth accounts usually use virtual bank accounts that are easily assigned in quantities to almost anyone and those are frequently abused so that they are eventually blacklisted for use on ebay |
| murdered_by_ebay | 08-21-2021 06:41 AM |
Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE from eBay Managed Payments - Your Action is Needed
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Originally Posted by GassanAbdoula
(Post 1167014)
Yeap i got the same message for my two accounts. Real info,match details with Wise bank.
Yestarday at night i have upload the documents waiting for reply.
The same case, i did the microdeposit a months a go, getting funds without issues.
| from what I know from a number of other sellers this type of messages comes from MP USA for various MP countries and is not based on whether you use real details , matching names , turnover made etc. but it is a mass message based solely on the type of bank account
in all cases I know of so far it was a virtual bank account issued by companies like Payoneer , Worldfirst and some others. I assume that this here is continuation of the virtual account ban which will eventually blacklist all virtual bank accounts
that is why I recommend to stay away from such accounts and replace them with local banks to avoid such issues in the future. I also recommend not to use foreign IBAN's as it is very well possible that ebay will be cracking down on EU sellers whose ebay is registered in one country and IBAN is based in another one
for now as I see they sent this message for the GBP accounts of Wise. Now would be the time to replace EUR accounts of Wise through local banks as I think this will soon come as well |
| muzzie | 08-21-2021 07:23 AM |
Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE from eBay Managed Payments - Your Action is Needed
Quote:
Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay
(Post 1167169)
They conceal information on purpose. In this case it looks like it is continuation of the virtual account ban
as far as I understand your LUX bank accounts are virtual accounts as well? most likely citibank because citibank have been issuing virtual accounts in LUX in large quantities and citibank is already banned in some other countries on ebay
Wise is a problem as well because it is the abused account provider #1 , there are loads of stealth accounts there
| It is not Citibank, but what do you mean by virtual bank accounts... still all have name on them, separate ibans... so whats the difference... no bank license? |
| muzzie | 08-21-2021 07:24 AM |
Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE from eBay Managed Payments - Your Action is Needed
Quote:
Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay
(Post 1167172)
from what I know from a number of other sellers this type of messages comes from MP USA for various MP countries and is not based on whether you use real details , matching names , turnover made etc. but it is a mass message based solely on the type of bank account
in all cases I know of so far it was a virtual bank account issued by companies like Payoneer , Worldfirst and some others. I assume that this here is continuation of the virtual account ban which will eventually blacklist all virtual bank accounts
that is why I recommend to stay away from such accounts and replace them with local banks to avoid such issues in the future. I also recommend not to use foreign IBAN's as it is very well possible that ebay will be cracking down on EU sellers whose ebay is registered in one country and IBAN is based in another one
for now as I see they sent this message for the GBP accounts of Wise. Now would be the time to replace EUR accounts of Wise through local banks as I think this will soon come as well
| Had that with the real banks as well. |
| murdered_by_ebay | 08-21-2021 07:29 AM |
Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE from eBay Managed Payments - Your Action is Needed
Quote:
Originally Posted by muzzie
(Post 1167177)
Had that with the real banks as well.
| what are the names of these banks? virtual bank accounts are accounts issued in large quantities to non residents by financial companies who have agreements with banks like it was with the previous EUR accounts of Wise from the Deutsche Handelsbank which provided millions of accounts that were then distributed by Wise among their customers
I think you may be confusing "real" banks with accounts provided by real banks for mass distribution to international customers. the difference is that such accounts are easily identified by individual bank codes , in the UK it would be sort codes |
| muzzie | 08-21-2021 07:34 AM |
Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE from eBay Managed Payments - Your Action is Needed
Local ones, like Swedbank. Applied for MP with real id, made up iban created in iban generator, provided creative statement and got banned. They cant really know of oban exists or not. |
| murdered_by_ebay | 08-21-2021 07:35 AM |
Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE from eBay Managed Payments - Your Action is Needed
Quote:
Originally Posted by muzzie
(Post 1167179)
Local ones, like Swedbank. Applied for MP with real id, made up iban created in iban generator, provided creative statement and got banned. They cant really know of oban exists or not.
| but here you apparently mean a suspension during MP registration rather than the email you described in this thread? |
| muzzie | 08-21-2021 07:40 AM |
Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE from eBay Managed Payments - Your Action is Needed
Quote:
Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay
(Post 1167180)
but here you apparently mean a suspension during MP registration rather than the email you described in this thread?
| Any difference between kicked out during registration or during doing MP? Or acceptance to register is created to steal money? |
| murdered_by_ebay | 08-21-2021 07:41 AM |
Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE from eBay Managed Payments - Your Action is Needed
Quote:
Originally Posted by muzzie
(Post 1167182)
Any difference between kicked out during registration or during doing MP? Or acceptance to register is created to steal money?
| the difference is that the criteria are not the same , the above email is likely based on bank only
the suspension during MP is most likely random |
| quest | 08-27-2021 04:45 AM |
Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE from eBay Managed Payments - Your Action is Needed
Quote:
Originally Posted by muzzie
(Post 1167179)
Local ones, like Swedbank. Applied for MP with real id, made up iban created in iban generator, provided creative statement and got banned. They cant really know of oban exists or not.
| Have one account with all real info linked to Swedbank, verified through microdeposits. So far it works for 1 month without issues.
Another account was with creative ID/Info and IBAN from swedbank, verified through uploading bank statement - this account was banned within a week after verification. |
| muzzie | 08-27-2021 04:48 AM |
Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE from eBay Managed Payments - Your Action is Needed
Mine stealth accs worked fine for 1 month, and then got restriction. I wonder how long do they check these docs... |
| kecapcarbon2019 | 08-27-2021 06:02 AM |
Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE from eBay Managed Payments - Your Action is Needed
They will ban all creative documents |
| muzzie | 08-27-2021 06:04 AM |
Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE from eBay Managed Payments - Your Action is Needed
Quote:
Originally Posted by kecapcarbon2019
(Post 1167976)
They will ban all creative documents
| Seems they ban real ones as well if they dint like bank used |
| murdered_by_ebay | 08-27-2021 12:32 PM |
Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE from eBay Managed Payments - Your Action is Needed
Quote:
Originally Posted by muzzie
(Post 1167959)
Mine stealth accs worked fine for 1 month, and then got restriction. I wonder how long do they check these docs...
| the accounts are likely toast even with real docs. this is the new policy of ebay where lots of things are forbidden but they do not disclose what in order to get people suspended easier
for that reason it is better to use local bank accounts at local banks avoiding any kind of accounts based abroad and any virtual accounts |
| muzzie | 08-27-2021 12:37 PM |
Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE from eBay Managed Payments - Your Action is Needed
Quote:
Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay
(Post 1168012)
the accounts are likely toast even with real docs. this is the new policy of ebay where lots of things are forbidden but they do not disclose what in order to get people suspended easier
for that reason it is better to use local bank accounts at local banks avoiding any kind of accounts based abroad and any virtual accounts
| Does ebay make payouts? Or ANY suspension reason = money seized? |
| murdered_by_ebay | 08-27-2021 01:05 PM |
Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE from eBay Managed Payments - Your Action is Needed
Quote:
Originally Posted by muzzie
(Post 1168014)
Does ebay make payouts? Or ANY suspension reason = money seized?
| they do payouts for everyone whose identity was verified even if the account was suspended. |
| kecapcarbon2019 | 08-27-2021 01:11 PM |
Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE from eBay Managed Payments - Your Action is Needed
Quote:
Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay
(Post 1168020)
they do payouts for everyone whose identity was verified even if the account was suspended.
| Agreed with you, money will be kept forever |
| muzzie | 08-27-2021 01:12 PM |
Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE from eBay Managed Payments - Your Action is Needed
Quote:
Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay
(Post 1168020)
they do payouts for everyone whose identity was verified even if the account was suspended.
| Is that true that if real docs sent, one will get paid 100%? How fast do they pay out from such accs? |
| muzzie | 08-27-2021 01:13 PM |
Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE from eBay Managed Payments - Your Action is Needed
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Originally Posted by kecapcarbon2019
(Post 1168022)
Agreed with you, money will be kept forever
| You also support theory that money will be released if docs are real? |
| murdered_by_ebay | 08-27-2021 01:24 PM |
Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE from eBay Managed Payments - Your Action is Needed
Quote:
Originally Posted by muzzie
(Post 1168024)
You also support theory that money will be released if docs are real?
| no , if the combination of identity and residence was verified
if you just send real docs , say from Latvia and claim residence in a country where you don't really have it , this will be the same as sending stealth docs |
| muzzie | 08-27-2021 01:31 PM |
Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE from eBay Managed Payments - Your Action is Needed
Quote:
Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay
(Post 1168026)
no , if the combination of identity and residence was verified
if you just send real docs , say from Latvia and claim residence in a country where you don't really have it , this will be the same as sending stealth docs
| How can they check residency? |
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