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Aguero 04-11-2017 10:06 AM

German seller eBay stealth
 
Hello guys,

I want to set up a German account and it should look like a German seller. I read a lot of threads here about it. Thanks to all of you. I am worried about Schufa check. I am thinking about two ways i can probably do it.

1. Make an account in .de with Bulgarian address and IP, and after some time and seller feedback i will move it to Germany /change the address and IP to German/ .

2. Make an account in .de with Bulgarian address and German IP, after some time i will change the address to German.

3. I have no option to find real German name, address and DOB to match Schufa data.

I'll be glad to hear your opinions.

Thanks in advance

vetus 04-11-2017 11:23 AM

Re: German seller eBay stealth
 
I would go with the German account with a Bulgarian address - you can if done correctly come up with some nice limits doing it this way.

Using real information isn't really the best way to go as you will end up burning someone elses identity on eBay.de

HUBPOZ 04-11-2017 12:05 PM

Re: German seller eBay stealth
 
Schufa probably not required, it has nothing to do with stealth ip and cleanliness rules. How do you have a legitimate bank account, and paypal personal or stealth is probably enough.
But i do not know :)

Aguero 04-11-2017 12:17 PM

Re: German seller eBay stealth
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vetus (Post 841382)
I would go with the German account with a Bulgarian address - you can if done correctly come up with some nice limits doing it this way.

Using real information isn't really the best way to go as you will end up burning someone elses identity on eBay.de

Do you think after moving account to another country there will be extra verification ? I don't know is it eBay save address history. It is important to me to look like a German seller. I hope non Eastern European name will make them believe it is a German lived in Bulgaria and back in Germany.

I think using real info is not good idea too.

Thanks

Aguero 04-11-2017 12:24 PM

Re: German seller eBay stealth
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HUBPOZ (Post 841386)
Schufa probably not required, it has nothing to do with stealth ip and cleanliness rules. How do you have a legitimate bank account, and paypal personal or stealth is probably enough.
But i do not know :)

Schufa check is required imo. You can read some nice threads here on the forum and here : http://pages.ebay.de/help/account/schufa-help.html /in German/.
I don't know how to have German bank account. I am in Bulgaria. To have a German dedicated IP is not easy i think. I don't know what VPN service to choose. Do you have any idea about this two very important points ?

Thanks

HUBPOZ 04-11-2017 12:32 PM

Re: German seller eBay stealth
 
I do not have, I think a lot how to do it,
I do not have schufa, so I also have a problem,
But i can have an address in germany, real,
But the problem is another name on the doorphone.
A friend is on holiday temporarily in Germany and therefore I have an address.

I know that you can create a bank account with a card on the N26, or DKB cash,
There is a problem with the verification by the webcam, but apparently it is more possible to set up a mail account in germany. Before you have to fill out an online application
In the banks.

Since the bank is given an address when assumed this verification paypal should go. But I do not know because I do not have a card yet.

Aguero 04-11-2017 01:33 PM

Re: German seller eBay stealth
 
I am newbie here in the beginning of learning. May be is better to make thread and ask knowledgeable guys or read other threads about Germany accounts. They are very useful. I read them all twice. When you make a new account in .de they match name, address and DOB with Schufa data imo. I personally recommend to read the Stealth Book.

HUBPOZ 04-12-2017 02:57 AM

Re: German seller eBay stealth
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Aguero (Post 841410)
I am newbie here in the beginning of learning. May be is better to make thread and ask knowledgeable guys or read other threads about Germany accounts. They are very useful. I read them all twice. When you make a new account in .de they match name, address and DOB with Schufa data imo. I personally recommend to read the Stealth Book.


Is there a stealth book outlined exactly how to make a stealth account in germany?

ilcarletto 04-12-2017 03:35 AM

Re: German seller eBay stealth
 
No, there is no specific indication for each country but stealth rules applies everywhere.

You have to find a proper "local" tools for your account to start. This is what the forum is also about... sharing experience and suggestions.

Aguero 04-12-2017 03:53 AM

Re: German seller eBay stealth
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ilcarletto (Post 841540)
No, there is no specific indication for each country but stealth rules applies everywhere.

You have to find a proper "local" tools for your account to start. This is what the forum is also about... sharing experience and suggestions.

I will be happy to hear your opinion which option is better to make a German account.

Thanks

vetus 04-12-2017 04:43 AM

Re: German seller eBay stealth
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Aguero (Post 841390)
Do you think after moving account to another country there will be extra verification ? I don't know is it eBay save address history. It is important to me to look like a German seller. I hope non Eastern European name will make them believe it is a German lived in Bulgaria and back in Germany.

I think using real info is not good idea too.

Thanks

No not necessarily - plenty of us have moved accounts across before and started selling immediately. You obviously need to contact eBay to do this properly and let them move the account across.

Try it and report back on findings but I would say it can work well.

Aguero 04-12-2017 05:08 AM

Re: German seller eBay stealth
 
Contact eBay.de before changing address to German correct ? I will be registered in .de and want to try sell there.

I will report for sure.

Thanks a lot

chrisch00 09-26-2018 10:36 AM

Re: German seller eBay stealth
 
Hi Aguero,
any news here? I am planning to move a uk account to ebay.de

Aguero 09-26-2018 04:08 PM

Re: German seller eBay stealth
 
Hi chrisch00,

Didn't move acc to .de (changing address to German and logging with German IP). I once changed the address in EB to another country without logging from foreign IP with no issues.

If you change your address and log from foreign IP keep your registered sim card in EB, they may call you.

When making German stealth with German address you first find out is there Schufa check or not. I didn't find clear answer.

What is your plan ?

backamblock 10-11-2018 06:53 AM

Re: German seller eBay stealth
 
hey guys, did you get through with this topic? where did you get simcards from without ID verification?

btw, if you still have schufa problems, i can help you with that

HUBPOZ 11-28-2018 04:34 AM

Re: German seller eBay stealth
 
It takes a long time but it wants it all the time.
I was in Germany to have a report.
I created a bank account.
I have paypal verified with this account.

Now I need 10 comments to deaden the first limits.
I am looking for an idea how to do it.

dachilla 11-28-2018 05:39 AM

Re: German seller eBay stealth
 
You don't need SCHUFA. There is no way they can compare the data.

Might be easier for your to make a bulgarian account maybe and then just list on ebay.de

I made an US account and simply listed on ebay.de, works perfect.

HUBPOZ 11-28-2018 06:09 AM

Re: German seller eBay stealth
 
How do you exchange a USA account for German?

Is it possible to buy a USA account with the limits from the sellers lifted here and connect to it your real German bank account and paypal?

dachilla 11-28-2018 06:12 AM

Re: German seller eBay stealth
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HUBPOZ (Post 960811)
How do you exchange a USA account for German?

Is it possible to buy a USA account with the limits from the sellers lifted here and connect to it your real German bank account and paypal?

You'll need US paypal. But you can sell on german ebay with it. Same goes with bulgarian Ebay and Paypal account. You can just do that, then log in on ebay.de with the respective username and password and start selling

Aguero 11-28-2018 06:34 AM

Re: German seller eBay stealth
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HUBPOZ (Post 960811)
How do you exchange a USA account for German?

Is it possible to buy a USA account with the limits from the sellers lifted here and connect to it your real German bank account and paypal?

You want to sell on .de or to look like German seller ?

HUBPOZ 11-29-2018 11:38 AM

Re: German seller eBay stealth
 
yes, I have a German address, I am a Pole,
I need to get an account which has already been sold, 100-500 sold.
To have credibility.

My products, I do not sell one with a 0 account sold.

backamblock 12-08-2018 09:18 AM

Re: German seller eBay stealth
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dachilla (Post 960803)
You don't need SCHUFA. There is no way they can compare the data.

Might be easier for your to make a bulgarian account maybe and then just list on ebay.de

I made an US account and simply listed on ebay.de, works perfect.


Sorry, but this is WRONG! There is a HUGE Difference!

Please be careful what you say as people might loose their freshly created accounts sooner than they want and also loose money :)

Correct, you do not need Schufa essentially
BUT!!! They CAN and WILL compare Data with the Schufa DB!
Every company can make a request there for a minimal fee!


A valid Schufa entry bypasses eBay phone verification, so you can throw whatever number you want in there.
Plus the accounts are more trusted, which is very important and the number 1 reason to make it with schufa, you just won't get problems..

Also, the more important part:
List 9 items on an 1 hour old account WITH schufa, no problem here

now try that without schufa and not get suspended, good luck <3


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